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B-rett10 Posted - 12/08/2006 : 22:43:30
Who is a better all around player?
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Guest8171 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 21:30:53
quote:
Originally posted by Guest6348

im gonna go with Kovulchuk. he does very good every single season on a crappy team with not a whole lot of support. Hossa is a great player as well no doubt but he doesn't put up the kind of numbers that Ilya does. this season he is doing great but that's because hes on detroit with lots of great players to help. put Kovulchuk on detroit and he would kill im willing to bet.



2005-06: Kovalchuk got 98 points (52 goals) in 78 games.
Hossa got 92 points (39 goals) in 80 games.

2006-07: Kovalchuk got 76 points (42 goals) in 82 games.
Hossa got 100 points (43 goals) in 82 games.

They both played on the Thrashers those years, whether or not they played on the same line, I'm not sure, but still, Hossa does put up the same kind of number Ilya does. Also, Hossa was a +35 those years, and Kovalchuk was -8.
Guest6348 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 18:48:24
im gonna go with Kovulchuk. he does very good every single season on a crappy team with not a whole lot of support. Hossa is a great player as well no doubt but he doesn't put up the kind of numbers that Ilya does. this season he is doing great but that's because hes on detroit with lots of great players to help. put Kovulchuk on detroit and he would kill im willing to bet.
Alex Posted - 12/01/2008 : 15:39:05
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

IN terms of fantasy value, I would watch out for Hossa, as he very likely may get traded to a cup contender which would help his value. If you need to shake things up quick, take a chance on him.

Habs get number 25 this year



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Guest0908 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 15:33:31
all koval baby. if he could only play with someone with a litlle talent like hossa has his entire career than you hossa lovers would jump bandwagons
Beans15 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 11:53:51
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4462

quote:
Originally posted by Guest6081

kovalchuck is way better offensivley (picked him in my pool) I think the only reason hossa would get more points is because he plays with datsyuc and holmstrom but hossa is better defensivley



Hossa's career season in points is better than Kovalchuk's career season. How well is Kovalchuk doing now, WITHOUT Hossa?



Kovalchuk is doing fine with 21 points in 23 games. That only 5 less than Hossa in the same amount of games.

And I think you are failing to appreciate the linemates Hossa has now compared to Kovalchuk. Do you not think that Hossa is realizing a positive impact from playing with Datsyuk and Holmstrom for the most part?? What about the PP time with Rafalski and Lidstrom on the points??

Detroit's 3rd line is about as good as anyone that Kovalchuk is playing with. Little bit of an unfair comparison.
Guest4462 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 10:11:17
quote:
Originally posted by Guest6081

kovalchuck is way better offensivley (picked him in my pool) I think the only reason hossa would get more points is because he plays with datsyuc and holmstrom but hossa is better defensivley



Hossa's career season in points is better than Kovalchuk's career season. How well is Kovalchuk doing now, WITHOUT Hossa?
Guest4462 Posted - 12/01/2008 : 10:07:02
quote:
Originally posted by Trevman12

I'd have to say Kovalchuk. He does well every year, people are just saying hossa because he is doing really good right now.



No, people are saying Hossa because they are smart. He is easily the best all around player.

You contradict yourself too, you say people are picking Hossa "because he is doing really good right now", therefore, implying that Kovalchuk is not doing "really good" right now, even though you say Kovalchuk does well every year.
fanoleaf Posted - 11/30/2008 : 21:03:31
Both good players.... Hossa mayne a little stronger in d end. Kovalchuk more of a pure goal scorer.

Kind of a toss up.

I vote for Kovalchuk...... he was never a Senioritta!!!!!!!!

GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!
Thrasher Posted - 11/30/2008 : 17:45:17
quote:
Originally posted by Guest8985

they are both great offensively but i think that Hossa is better defensively



wow understatement of the year....
have you watched kovalchuk play, i have never seen him come back past his own blueline, unless for faceoff. He is still one of the best offensive players in the league, but Hossa is more well-rounded.
Guest6081 Posted - 11/11/2008 : 13:43:57
kovalchuck is way better offensivley (picked him in my pool) I think the only reason hossa would get more points is because he plays with datsyuc and holmstrom but hossa is better defensivley
brentrock2 Posted - 11/11/2008 : 03:37:17
Picked Hossa because he is a awesome goal scorer and Kovalchuk is a very good goal scorerand Kovalchuk don't pass as much.Oh yeah Farablill enough websites.
Alex Posted - 02/22/2008 : 09:25:25
IN terms of fantasy value, I would watch out for Hossa, as he very likely may get traded to a cup contender which would help his value. If you need to shake things up quick, take a chance on him.

Habs get number 25 this year
semin-rules Posted - 02/10/2008 : 18:12:33
Ilya is just a great player,
he has it all
there is nothign you cant not like about him.
Hossa is good,
Ilya though, I think is just a smidge better

~~~GO STARS~~~
Leafsfan_94 Posted - 02/10/2008 : 16:25:03
quote:
Originally posted by B-rett10

Who is a better all around player?



kovalchuck is a more taented player. stacks up more points,makes plays scores goals and his goals are better too. doesnt take too many penalities(like hossa, we all rememebr what he did to bryan berard.

so ya

kovalchuk's got my vote


>>>Go Leafs Go<<<
Leafsfan_94

Kovy_Sniper Posted - 02/10/2008 : 16:14:43
i know its been months since somebody actually posted here... BUT....

id pick Kovalchuk

I went to see ATL play in ottawa with year... and ATL was down 5 - 0 in the 3rd with about 11 minutes left... ilya kovalchuk took over the game by scoring a hat tick while eric perrin also scored once to make the game 5 - 4... but Kovalchuks 3 goals were all by sher talent and the ability to shoot the puck, his 2nd being his classic slap shot goal walking in from the point this time on the right side, and his 3rd goal he jumped around Mike Fisher and walked in and shot the puck putting it RIGHT under the bar... making it a 5 - 4 game and it was so exciting Hossa was no where to be found that game.... now im not say only cause of this game i'd pick kovalchuk, ive been a fan for a while and hes got the talent to take over games and he can literaly score from anywhere


leafsfan1 Posted - 03/31/2007 : 05:51:43
i say hossa he is a great player
jbraiter Posted - 03/05/2007 : 13:36:59
I would normally say kovalchuk, but by the way he is playing Hossa

Go Canucks
tctitans Posted - 03/05/2007 : 12:28:50
Hossa's a winner.
Saku Steen Posted - 03/05/2007 : 12:25:15
Kovalchuk is better but its pretty close.
bablaboushka Posted - 03/05/2007 : 08:50:17
Hossa plays with Kozlov. For most of the season Kovalchuk played with Metropolit and Jon Sim.

Hmm...
PainTrain Posted - 03/05/2007 : 08:28:07
Hossa has 38 goals and 46 assists for 84 points and is a +16 while Kovalchuk has 34 goals and 28 assists for 62 points and is a -10 and in his past 5 seasons he is a -69 while Hossa is a +97 in 8 seasons.

Stats say Hossa is better and he is.

GO Sabres GO!!!!!
semin-rules Posted - 02/15/2007 : 19:43:33
Hossa.....

~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~
Guest4912 Posted - 12/21/2006 : 13:43:18
neither is that good defensively.
Mikhailova Posted - 12/21/2006 : 13:00:31
quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

Ahh but we must not forget, the best defense is a good offense!



It is indeed

I said Kovalchuk but it was tough to choose
B-rett10 Posted - 12/13/2006 : 19:45:13
Also Defence wins championships.
1 Crosby fan Posted - 12/12/2006 : 21:14:02
quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

Ahh but we must not forget, the best defense is a good offense!

yes good point
bablaboushka Posted - 12/12/2006 : 21:08:13
Ahh but we must not forget, the best defense is a good offense!
1 Crosby fan Posted - 12/12/2006 : 20:42:37
i really don't know because hossa is good but kovalchuck is also good
Kashmire Posted - 12/12/2006 : 20:40:14
You talk of Hossa as if he is 2nd to Scott Neidermeyer in the defensive category. Hossa hasn't much skill for defense, he is overrated in this poll when comparing his defensive skills to Kovalchuk's. Yes, I know Kovalchuk has a poor defenseive game but Hossa doesn't have a that much better one. Just some different insite I thought might be interesting to share.
B-rett10 Posted - 12/12/2006 : 19:58:41
Ok ok HOSSA!
Trevman12 Posted - 12/12/2006 : 14:13:18
quote:
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Originally posted by B-rett10

No "Trevman12" thats not it, Hossa has a better defensive game than Kovalchuk. So he is the better all around player.

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Its based on opinion, I think it is Kovalchuk, you think it's hossa. That why there is a poll isn't it?
1 Crosby fan Posted - 12/11/2006 : 20:59:53
quote:
Originally posted by B-rett10

No "Trevman12" thats not it, Hossa has a better defensive game than Kovalchuk. So he is the better all around player.

yea
B-rett10 Posted - 12/11/2006 : 20:25:17
No "Trevman12" thats not it, Hossa has a better defensive game than Kovalchuk. So he is the better all around player.
1 Crosby fan Posted - 12/11/2006 : 20:23:33
I don't know anymore
Kashmire Posted - 12/11/2006 : 19:18:24
Kovalchuk is the stronger of the two offensively, his mind set is all about scoring and settign up those plays. Hossa, while having a great offensive strength, is better than Kovalchuk, Kovelchuk can't defend at all. In the end i would want Kovalchuk though, hes just so smart and skilled.
Trevman12 Posted - 12/11/2006 : 19:04:37
I'd have to say Kovalchuk. He does well every year, people are just saying hossa because he is doing really good right now.
1 Crosby fan Posted - 12/10/2006 : 20:14:04
quote:
Originally posted by B-rett10

Exactly you read my mind crosby fan.

cool
B-rett10 Posted - 12/10/2006 : 20:07:17
Exactly you read my mind crosby fan.
1 Crosby fan Posted - 12/09/2006 : 23:51:21
I'd say Hossa because he is better on defence
B-rett10 Posted - 12/09/2006 : 23:22:40
Hossa is Great one of my favourtie players.

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