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oil fan97
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Canada
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Posted - 03/25/2007 :  19:17:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
How much would you pay Ryan Smyth?

Oilers Rule!!!

Choices:

5.5 million
5 million
4.5 million
4 million
3.5 million
lower than 3.5 million

(Anonymous Vote)

Edited by - bablaboushka on 03/25/2007 19:34:06

bablaboushka
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Canada
2417 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2007 :  19:36:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
$3.5 million tops.

He's good but is not worth anything close to franchise money.

Edited by - bablaboushka on 03/25/2007 19:37:35
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oil fan97
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Canada
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Posted - 03/25/2007 :  19:38:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think about 4 million tops or at lest 3.5 million.

Oilers Rule!!!
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Guest4644
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Posted - 03/25/2007 :  20:22:38  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

$3.5 million tops.

He's good but is not worth anything close to franchise money.



Not franchise money? Have you seen what happened to the Oilers since he left?
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PainTrain
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Canada
1393 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2007 :  20:49:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
3.5 dont get me wrong he is good but not great and yeah the impact he has made on the oilers is big but the amount of injuries they have.
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bablaboushka
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Canada
2417 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2007 :  21:20:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4644

quote:
Originally posted by bablaboushka

$3.5 million tops.

He's good but is not worth anything close to franchise money.



Not franchise money? Have you seen what happened to the Oilers since he left?


Have you seen what's happened to them since 11 regulars got injured? Smyh was not the difference, give me a break and I'm sick of people saying that. If the Oilers really relied on a guy like Smyth then that says what kind of a team they really were.
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Canucks Man
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Canada
1547 Posts

Posted - 03/25/2007 :  21:58:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
3.5 tops sure he was there heart but you could have sticked anyone in front of the net to bang in rebonds, it just happend to be smyth

CANUCKS RULE!!!
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Saku Steen
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Canada
1102 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2007 :  03:49:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would pay Ryan Smyth up to 3.5 million. He is not worth a lot of money and I would rather other players then him; so I probably wouldnt try to sign him.
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semin-rules
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Canada
1915 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2007 :  06:54:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Honestly, I would give him around 3.3 million. I never thought he was all that great. I know you all think i'm crazy but I just think that he wasn't as good as people thought he was. He may have a lot of points and has a good attitude, but I think that he isn't a great all around player.

That's just my opinion.


~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~

Edited by - semin-rules on 03/26/2007 06:56:21
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Beans15
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Canada
8181 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2007 :  16:10:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I put him in the $4.5 million mark. Here is a list of players that are making between $4 million and $4.5 million. He certainly fits in this group. I would say in the top 25% of this list. The one's in bold are the one's I consider better than Smyth. The others, he is as good as or better.

Disagree??

Brind'Amour, Rod
Cole, Erik
Staal, Eric
Aucoin, Adrian
Zubov, Sergei
Gionta, Brian
Shanahan, Brendan
Spezza, Jason
Marleau, Patrick
McKee, Jay
Johnsson, Kim
Zhamnov, Alexei
Murray, Glen
Rafalski, Brian
Holik, Robert
Modano, Michael
Norstrom, Mattias
Satan, Miroslav
Kaberle, Tomas
Nash, Rick
Roloson, Dwayne
Demitra, Pavol
Kovalev, Alex
Arnott, Jason
Kariya, Paul
DiPietro, Rick
Heatley, Dany
Gonchar, Sergei
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Ddeathblade
Top Prospect



28 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2007 :  16:12:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd pay him from 4 - 4.5 million. I know that he's the heart and soul, but there's no way he's worth as much as 5.5 mil, to even 6 million. I highly doubt there's a team that will sign him for that much in the off-season, even Edmonton. However, i hope that we get Ryan Smyth back
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bablaboushka
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Canada
2417 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2007 :  19:57:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
90% of those players not in bold are HIGHLY overpaid. He simply does not deserve that kind of money and using the equity factor here seems ridiculous.

Beans, how about a list of $3 million < Players < $3.5 million?

Edited by - bablaboushka on 03/26/2007 19:58:55
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Saku Steen
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Canada
1102 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2007 :  04:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

I put him in the $4.5 million mark. Here is a list of players that are making between $4 million and $4.5 million. He certainly fits in this group. I would say in the top 25% of this list. The one's in bold are the one's I consider better than Smyth. The others, he is as good as or better.

Disagree??

Brind'Amour, Rod
Cole, Erik
Staal, Eric
Aucoin, Adrian
Zubov, Sergei
Gionta, Brian
Shanahan, Brendan
Spezza, Jason
Marleau, Patrick
McKee, Jay
Johnsson, Kim
Zhamnov, Alexei
Murray, Glen
Rafalski, Brian
Holik, Robert
Modano, Michael
Norstrom, Mattias
Satan, Miroslav
Kaberle, Tomas
Nash, Rick
Roloson, Dwayne
Demitra, Pavol
Kovalev, Alex
Arnott, Jason
Kariya, Paul
DiPietro, Rick
Heatley, Dany
Gonchar, Sergei




This is helpful, but like babs said, it shows how muck they get overpaid.
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butch33
Top Prospect



35 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  10:04:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
alot of gm's would probably feel comfortable giving him 4.5 per season , but the bidding for him will get ridiculous , so dont be surprised to see him making 5.75 which is probably 1.25 mil too much

hopefully the islanders dont get sucked in too badly by Meehan if they decide to write a blank check
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juice32
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Canada
100 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  10:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well,

If I was JFJ, i'd probably have to pay him 100 million a season. Cause I'd think that Kubina is worth 5 million a season
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Saku Steen
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Canada
1102 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:14:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juice32

Well,

If I was JFJ, i'd probably have to pay him 100 million a season. Cause I'd think that Kubina is worth 5 million a season



You enjoy being JFJ , dont you? Its pretty funny.
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Patchy
PickupHockey Pro



Canada
529 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  11:21:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would pay smyth about $4 million to play for me.
But as for Kubina, he's been living up to that big salary lately, if anyone's been watching the leafs' games..

~~Go Leafs Go~~
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8181 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  12:13:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the list of $3-3.5 million/year players. I would put Smyth at the top of this list easily. Afinogenov and Drury are the only players on this list that come close to Smyth, and I don't think either are better players.

PS-These are numbers for this years salaries. Doan, for example, will make $4.6 million next year. Still, Smyth is a better player in my opinion. Doan is one of those guys who will be overpaid next year.


Mara, Paul
Bergeron, Patrice
Afinogenov, Maxim
Brisebois, Patrice
Nagy, Ladislav
Huet, Cristobal
White, Colin
Comrie, Mike
Kuba, Filip
Cullen, Matt
Straka, Martin
Drury, Chris
Zidlicky, Marek
Sullivan, Steve
Morrison, Brendan
Spacek, Jaroslav
Kasparaitis, Darius
Schneider, Mathieu
McDonald, Andy
Doan, Shane
Williams, Justin
Kiprusoff, Miikka
Hamrlik, Roman
Hemsky, Ales
Smyth, Ryan
Mogilny, Alexander
Hatcher, Derian
Rathje, Mike
Zhitnik, Alexei
Weight, Doug
Ohlund, Mattias
Mitchell, Willie
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star



USA
2918 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  14:01:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How is Smyth better than Afinogenov?? Smyth has 66 points in 68 games. Max has 57 and hasn't played since February. He has nearly as many points in a lot fewer games. On that pace he would've passed Smyth by a lot by now had he been healthy.
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8181 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  15:16:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mik, it takes more than points to be considered a better player. Do not even attempt to say that Afinegenov can hold a candle to Smyth defensively, on the the PK, or as a gritty hard nosed digger. And read the post again. I gave him props as close. I love Afineganov.
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ED11
Rookie



Canada
224 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  15:24:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't pay Smyth anything over 4million. I don't think that he has enough "impact" in terms of being able to turn a game around by scoring or producing points in a key situation. With that said, I am not taking anything away from him, cause I do like him, but he is just more of a "team geling" player. He plays with A LOT of heart.
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Leafs Rock Planet
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Canada
902 Posts

Posted - 04/06/2007 :  17:53:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd say 4 million


Leafs 4 Playoffs!!
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