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| semin-rules |
Posted - 10/06/2010 : 21:04:26
Tsn.ca has predicted Detroit to win next years stanley cup !
With the addition of Modano and Hudler returning, they do seem pretty lethal !!
So do you guys agree with tsn !?
What are your thoughts?
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| crichards |
Posted - 10/30/2010 : 16:57:20
Hey Beans15.
Not sure if you checked Ozzie's numbers but the last Cup runs Osgood has put up some pretty impressive stats:
1998 16-6, 2.12 GAA 918 Sv %
2008 14-4, 1.55 GAA 930 Sv %
2009 15-8, 2.01 GAA .926 Sv %
It's ludicrious to look at these #'s and diss Chris Osgood. I know some players ride good teams, but I think a goalie's Save % doesn't lie. Not every Stanley Cup winning goalie wins with numbers like these.
I could understand people saying this if his GAA was over 2.50 or his Save % was at .900.
All he does is win in the playoffs and puts up great #'s at the same time.
Why couldn't Howard give the Wings the Cup last year if they are so great. It was a very similar team to the last two years when they went to the Finals.
I say put Ozzie in the playoffs this year, no matter what he does in the regular season, and I think the Wings have a solid chance once again. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/11/2010 : 13:05:03
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Originally posted by Guest6457
Irvine you are so off about Detroit. They are a puck possession team, and they are a really good offensive team. Yes they are well structured defensively but I never saw them as a defense first team, they are not like Nashville. They usually finish top 5 every year in goals for or in standings. Their game is to have the puck for the most time as possible so they dont have to play without the puck.
Detroit are still a very solid team, with lots of depth and talent, well coached, tons of leadership, so I think they will win their division and go as far as conference finals or finals.
Hmm, 7th in the league last season in goals against, 10th in PK, 9th fewest shots against per game..
Sounds not very defensively focused to me.
I think it's because Detroit is so good on both sides of the puck that people don't give their team defense their fair credit.
I mean, that team gave Osgood how many Cup rings??? |
| Guest6457 |
Posted - 10/10/2010 : 19:39:13
Irvine you are so off about Detroit. They are a puck possession team, and they are a really good offensive team. Yes they are well structured defensively but I never saw them as a defense first team, they are not like Nashville. They usually finish top 5 every year in goals for or in standings. Their game is to have the puck for the most time as possible so they dont have to play without the puck.
Detroit are still a very solid team, with lots of depth and talent, well coached, tons of leadership, so I think they will win their division and go as far as conference finals or finals. |
| irvine |
Posted - 10/10/2010 : 11:02:51
The Detroit Red Wings may be 'aging', but they are still a talented, well-rounded team.
Detroit is a 'defense' first type of team. Where not some players, but all players, have to play defensive style of hockey.
They also have guys that can produce offensively. Are they top 5 in goals or points at the end of the year, usually? No. But they are always close. And that's because they play just as well, if not better, without the puck.
I'd not let Detroit's age fool anyone. They are still a well-rounded, well-oiled machine. Who could win the Cup any given year, in my opinion. Never count them out.
Irvine/prez. |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 10/09/2010 : 09:22:57
Watched most of the Detroit / Ducks game and, the Wings looked fast, crisp and on their game. Can they sustain???
Also was a report that Leigtonen is out 6-8 weeks with back surgery. Looks like the rookie in Philly is gonna see a lot of ice time. What happened to Emery???? |
| Guest4780 |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 10:11:36
EA sports picked Canucks to win Cup over Boston in 7, they were right last year picking Chicago. I think the have a much better chance than Detroit, like the other posts have stated, the Red Wings are getting old, i don't see all their old guys making it all the way through the season, i see a lot of lost man games in their future. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 09:44:45
Beans, getting worried about our bet? Lol.... 
ToX...Pretty sure Slozo was referring to the guest poster above who in fact called it "stupid".
Slozo (and others).... i can see Det taking a dip in the standings, but no playoffs? Wow, stick THAT one in the bold predictions thread!!! |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 09:35:28
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Originally posted by slozo
So for me, I can take the prediction as possible, but very unlikely, IMHO. I am actually going against the grain and predicting a very off year for Detroit, where they might just squeeze in the playoffs, or even get squeezed out. The Hawks are still the champs; St. Louis should be loads better; Nashville is still no pushover.
I say they finish 8th, with a first round exit. The times they are a changin'! 
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
I still have not had anyone able to tell me how St. Louis has gotten loads better. They didn't add anyone to their team other than Halak and he is really not much better(if better at all) than Chris Mason. So what has made them loads better??
Looking back at these old guys in Detroit and what they did from the Olympic Break through the conference finals, they are still a very deep and talented team.
I wish we did not have a bet already because I would take you up on this one big time and be giving you very favorable odds as well.
You said it Slozo, you are way against the grain on this one. |
| Guest9294 |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 07:06:42
Detroit winning the Stanley Cup?!?!?!?! Who made this rediculous prediction? Pierre [Mod Edit-Distasteful Choice of Words] McGuire? Detroit will be lucky if they make it into the playoffs with all their seniors.
My prediction is Detroit will be injury plagued all season long, will get battered and beaten by the younger teams in the western conference like Chi town and Colorado and will be a 1st round elimination in the playoffs due to the less than spectacular corp of injured, underperforming geezers they'll have by next April. |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 06:57:45
Never said they were stupid, I just find it humourous they're coming out so early with it. Now, if Detroit can stay healthy all season (with the elder squad, not likely) and Howard is solid, ya they make the playoffs, but, I can't see them winning. But as stated, anything can happen.......visions of Minny Northstars on that cinderella run many moons ago, 1991 I believe............
"Can't see the forest for the trees? BUY A CHAINSAW !!" |
| n/a |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 06:46:13
Well, it's silly to call them stupid for making a prediction of the cup winner . . .it is their job, after all. And, with there only being a handful of truly deep teams with the strongest chance of winning it all, of course all the predictions are going to be centered around the same 5 or 6 teams.
We all know that anything can happen once the playoffs roll around, and that technically any of those 16 teams could win the cup . . . but you'd probably have to go back to Montreal's last cup win in 93 or 94 to find a true "non-contender" team (at least, before the playoffs started) winning the cup. It is extremely rare, and although lots of upstarts make it a few rounds or even to the final, winning it in the end is another thing entirely.
So, yeah, I think Detroit may be in that mix of top contenders, but frankly, I don't see it. The elderly (but offensively talented) pairing of Rafalski and Lidstrom has to backfire at some point, probably with injuries; Zetterberg had hip surgery, and that is tough to bounce back from; Datsyuk may give continued diminishing returns; and some of the old parts (Modano, Bertuzzi, Holmstrom) may reach expiry. Couple all that with a sophomore goalie in Howard, and you actually have the potential for even missing the playoffs.
So for me, I can take the prediction as possible, but very unlikely, IMHO. I am actually going against the grain and predicting a very off year for Detroit, where they might just squeeze in the playoffs, or even get squeezed out. The Hawks are still the champs; St. Louis should be loads better; Nashville is still no pushover.
I say they finish 8th, with a first round exit. The times they are a changin'!
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 02:48:57
Wow, before the puck is dropped in game 1, they've predicted the cup winner? Cancel the season and ship the Cup to Motown !!
"Can't see the forest for the trees? BUY A CHAINSAW !!" |
| Guest5806 |
Posted - 10/07/2010 : 23:10:07
unlikely
Really predictions like these are stupid because all analyst result to conformity rather than expressing some real originality. Everyone is picking the same 5 teams or whatever to win the cup. There is probably a 30% chance that one of those teams will win so..
Detroit winning the cup is less likely than the oilers making the playoffs |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/07/2010 : 09:50:06
Well, considering that the Red Wings made the conference finals with one of the 5 highest man-games lost to injuries, I don't think it's that hard to think they can make the finals this year.
They are deep. Deeper than most any other team in all areas. Philly might rival them with forwards and teams like Toronto(yes I said it), Calgary, and Vancouver can rival their depth on defense. However, no team has the depth in both defense and forward. They are old, however they are definitely deep enough that they can roll all 4 lines and 3 d-pairings and not have to force more than 15-18 minutes out of anyone.
The only question mark with the Wings(which Slozo brought up in a previous thread) is in net. We all have watched various other Calder nominated or winning keepers flounder in their 2nd full campain. As recently as Steve Mason last year. Anyone remember that Raycroft fella??
It's the one place the Wings don't have depth. That is their only question mark. And sure, they have to be injury free going into the playoffs but they don't need any other teams to under-perform or all of their player to over perform.
All things being equal(healthy, players producing to potential) Detroit is a very hard team to beat in a 7 games series.
I am not that surprised with TSN's panel on this one. |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 10/06/2010 : 22:10:20
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With the addition of Modano and Hudler returning, they do seem pretty lethal !!
Hmmm.... Modano + Hudler != "lethal" .
I suspect Hudler will have a decent year offensively, but I don't think Modano will contribute much more than leadership - which I didn't think they were lacking in the first place.
Regardless, Detroit will be a strong contender in the west this year. Their biggest achilles heel will be age - how fresh will people like Lidstrom, Rafalski, Holmstrom be in April? |
| polishexpress |
Posted - 10/06/2010 : 22:06:49
I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit make the Conference Semi Finals maybe even Conference Finals, but I think that a Stanley Cup would be a perfect situation: no injuries, top performance of all players, and all the other teams under-performing for whatever reasons. |
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