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| fat_elvis_rocked |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 09:45:11
Since the moderators asked that any off topic discussion be moved to another thread, I thought I'd create one for what was turning in to another Dukejacking, and his incessant need to misinterpret what is typed in front if him.
Here's how it went so far in the Montreal vs. Boston thread;
Duke inferred that Boston could use Kessel now, due to the fact they can't score and he had 32 goals.
Mario rebutted with sound reasoning which Duke then ignored to further attempt to ?, appeal to our lack of seeing the greatness of Kessel?
Mario again rebutted with logic and reason, to which the wash, rinse, repeat cycle of Duke came back with nothing more than his obvious man-crush of Kessel, and lame excuses for Kessel's shortcomings.
He then asked when the last team to win the cup was that didn't have a 30 goal scorer, to which I answered.
Duke then had us believe that because I answered his question that his point about not having a 30 goal scorer was a detriment, was valid by saying;
"So this kinda puts the need for kessel and others like him i guess ( 30 plus goal scorer`s in the wash)...lol...yes this one team shows that NHL teams don`t need 30 goal scorers to win the cup...omg'
That's where we are at the moment I do believe, please correct me if wrong, and continue this enlightening debate in this thread please, yes, Duke, I do mean you.
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| fat_elvis_rocked |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 21:32:58
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Originally posted by Guest7777
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by fat_elvis_rocked
I'll have to mistype it as Keseberle! 
Okay, now i'm confused. What sort of hybrid is this Keseberle you speak of?
Kessel / Eberle?
Kesler / Eberle?
Kessel / Kaberle?
Kesler / Kaberle?
Or a mixture of any of the four???
et tu, Alex?
Note to self......proofread...twice!......damn Canuckleheads, and their sharp vision, and wit!!!
ack!......And remember to sign on!!! Geez....rattled by the Canuckleheads...time for bed! |
| Guest7777 |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 21:30:57
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by fat_elvis_rocked
I'll have to mistype it as Keseberle!
Okay, now i'm confused. What sort of hybrid is this Keseberle you speak of?
Kessel / Eberle?
Kesler / Eberle?
Kessel / Kaberle?
Kesler / Kaberle?
Or a mixture of any of the four???
et tu, Alex?
Note to self......proofread...twice!......damn Canuckleheads, and their sharp vision, and wit!!! |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 19:38:34
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The Bruins gave up in my opinion..just what the doctor would order for them right about now...someone to put the puck into the twine.
The Bruins gave up a player that was ultimately not ever going to play for them. Why talk about what Kessel could have brought to the table in Boston at all?
And if you want to really take it another step - if BOS had managed to pony up 6M a year to sign him, what would they not have been able to do this past year due to the cap room he took up? |
| The Duke |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 18:42:50
p.s..... Elvis, Kessel being a leaf is just not simply the only reason i brought him up. kessel came from the Bruins and Burke has been taking a lick`in from most people since he made the trade. Most people just bring up what the leafs gave up....what about what the Bruins gave up ??
The Bruins gave up in my opinion..just what the doctor would order for them right about now...someone to put the puck into the twine.
kessel will be connected to the Bruins for years to come, as will Seguin to the Leafs....the Boston fans still boo kessel for gods sake, everything that happens in Toronto is under a microscope...just part of being a leafs fan. |
| The Duke |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 18:32:09
Dukejacking...lmao...i`m flattered guys.
Glad to see everyone still has a sense of humor on here. Someone has to stir the pot and get some contraversory brewing here or else this site would be so mundane. 
Fat Elvis, you are absolutely right, i do try to get the leaf players indirectly involved in threads. We are pretty bored this time of year you know, if not for watching leaflands arch - rivals ( les Habs ) and hoping for them to lose, what else would we have to do ??
Just kidding Pasty  , the playoffs are not just the same without Montreal. |
| fat_elvis_rocked |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 16:45:29
Also, I still doubt that the Dukester would mention the name Kessel if he didn't wear a Leafs sweater, that is the point, my friend the Duke may have valid points on occasion, but they are usually hidden behind his blatant agenda of 'here's a chunk of Leafloaf, chew on it!', type of post, which is old news from him, as he usually tends to overstate his love of leaf, and inability to make a post without using them as a measuring stick.
I appreciate Duke's enthusiasm as a Leafs fan, I just have trouble not debating his points when they are usually tinged with blue and white, instead of common and sense.
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| Alex116 |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 16:33:11
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Originally posted by fat_elvis_rocked
I'll have to mistype it as Keseberle!
Okay, now i'm confused. What sort of hybrid is this Keseberle you speak of?
Kessel / Eberle?
Kesler / Eberle?
Kessel / Kaberle?
Kesler / Kaberle?
Or a mixture of any of the four??? |
| fat_elvis_rocked |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 16:27:53
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Originally posted by nuxfan
when you say Kessler, I don't know if you mean "Kesler" or "Kessel". Its sort of a hybrid between the two, which would only benefit Kessel.
Geez, sorry about that! Nice catch there Nuxfan, if I didn't know better, my subconscious might be playing tricks on me as it wasn't that long ago I was reading posts from a whack of Canuckleheads praising the greatness of Kesler, a point which has been proven correct as this year shows.
I guess next time I let my inner self type, and if neither player leads their respective teams to greatness, I'll have to mistype it as Keseberle! |
| Mario 66 |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 12:55:38
Canucks Fan Duke never said anything about Boston not having a 30 goal scorer, he only asked the question do they have anyone with 32? Which, I kindly rebuttled no, but they also have nobody a minus 20.
I made the claim that the Canadiens & Pen's where doing just fine without any 30 goal scorers (crosby excluded) & that is how we made it to the point we have reached & FER's stellar topic
In youth we learn; in age we understand |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 11:17:13
This whole debate is pretty much a moo point anyway, the Bruins have a 30 goal scorer, his name you ask? Milan Lucic. Maybe look up some stats before you run your mouth off duke. You could gain a little more respect.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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| n/a |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 11:16:46
Well, first things first - corrections:
09/10 - Blackhawks
They did have a 30 goal scorer, in fact - Patrick Kane, with thirty on the button. Also had 2 others with 25 goals.
08/09 - Pittsburgh
Had two 30 goal scorers, Crosby (33), Malkin (35)
07/08 - Detroit
Had two 30 goal scorers, Zetterberg (43), Datsyuk (31)
06/07 - Anaheim
Had one 30 goal scorer - Selanne (48), and 4 others with at least 25
05/06 - Carolina
Had FOUR 30 goal scorers, Staal (45), J.Williams (31), Cole (30), Brind'amour (31).
03/04 - TB Lightning
Had two 30 goal scorers, St.Louis (38), Lecavalier (32), 3 others with 25 or more.
02/03 - NJ Devils
No 30 goal scorers - Elias had 29, Holik 25, Arnott 22, Sykora 21.
So - no team has won the Stanley Cup with at least one 30 goal scorer since the New Jersey Devils did back in 02/03, a team with a guy one goal short, and having the most dominating goalie and defence in the league with a stifling trap system.
The 30 goal man on a Cup winner pretty much being a requirement is a very fair point, in my mind, Fat Elvis. About Duke's argumentation style, I am with you; but he does have a fair point.
Also, not to make this a super long post, but . . . Kessel did have a lot of speed, and that tends to back up defenders and create more space. It is something that the Bruins do clearly lack - speed, and finesse scoring ability.
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| Beans15 |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 11:13:28
Well, the question might be more so is the lack of a Kessel type player an issue or the lack of a set up man like Savard and issue. Boston really doesn't have any players who are known to be set-up/distributor type players other than Savard. Their team is built on 3 lines of 2-way forwards and 1 line of offense. That offensive line is centered by Savard and without him, that line is lacking.
Nathan Horton is a serviceable replacement for Kessel. Not at a good, not a young, not as fast, not at dynamic, but serviceable. However, without Savard, that type of player struggles.
So is Boston missing Savard or Kessel???
And yes, Duke it absolutely notorious for making a point, getting argued, then flipping his view on the issue faster than Steven Harper can cite the economy. Glad to see my big brother is not oblivious to this either. |
| Porkchop73 |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 10:26:57
I originally put this in the Montreal v Boston thread but maybe I should add it here.
Although I would not have put it out there like he did, I do think ol Duke here is onto something.
Perhaps a pure sniper like Kessel is just the added dynamic that the Bruins could use. I don't believe that the Bruins have a true sniper in their lineup. Lets face it. They lost their top point man in Savard and they lost their top goal scorer in Kessel. Both of those players would certainly make the Bruins a better team then they are today. Horton did not quite fit the bill and their young star player, Seguin, has yet to dress in the playoffs (I think). The Bruins could also get away the D they have if they had the extra offense in the lineup that a Savard or a Kessel like player provide. They certainly would match up better against the Habs.
Now I did not say the Bruins need Kessel, but I do think a Kessel type player would help the Bruins.
By no means do I want to ganged upon for lookin like Duke fan but I think I my be able to read into what Duke was really trying to say
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| nuxfan |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 10:05:38
when you say Kessler, I don't know if you mean "Kesler" or "Kessel". Its sort of a hybrid between the two, which would only benefit Kessel. |
| fat_elvis_rocked |
Posted - 04/20/2011 : 09:56:50
Now to your question Duke, two things;
You asked, I answered, not sure what was debatable about that.
But since you seem to want to, I didn't say that a team didn't NEED a 30 goal scorer to be succesfull in the playoffs........it just doesn't need Kessler.
If Kessler got traded to any team other than you Leafs, would you still even comment?
Dukejacking 101. |
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