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Posted - 05/15/2011 : 20:31:48 First of all, I like Don Cherry. He's very entertaining, and while I don't always agree with his opinion, I respect his point of view. For one thing, he is very respectful toward the people who serve our country (especially those who die for our country), primarilly the military, but also, members of our police force and firefighters too.
Don Cherry has also played one more NHL game than I have, so that counts for something too!
That being said, I think Don Cherry is absolutely wrong whenever he makes comments about players (usually defensemen) who put their sticks in the way of attacking players who put shots toward the net. First of all, I can't imagine a player (any player) not doing so. And I can't imagine a coach (except for Cherry) telling a player to let any attacking player take a shot unimpeded toward the net.
For every goal scored by a puck inadvertently deflected by a defensive player into the net, there are numerous times (and I would say countless times) where defensive players prevent a puck from getting to the net. I mean really, and I emphasize really, why do players (and coaches who direct their players on how to play), continue to place their sticks in front of players' shots toward the net? And the answer is that it works for the vast majority of the time. And in this particular example of hockey "strategy," (on how to deal with shots fired in by opposing players), I think Don Cherry is wrong. |
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Beans15 |
Posted - 05/16/2011 : 17:29:17 I watched the rant and although it was a fluky play, I think Cherry had a point. The puck was wabbling well before Torres hit it. All Cherry was saying is that is it really worth the risk of what 'could' happen and hit it or lay off the puck and your goalie is not injured in warm ups.
Cherry is definitely an aquired taste and he is getting very odd in his old age. Well, more odd than before. However, I don't think anyone can argue with the man's pedigree. He has done just about everything except win a Cup. Once your filter through all his crap and his 'way' of saying things, a lot of what he says is really intelligent and makes sense.
It's kind of like arguing with Slozo. |
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Posted - 05/16/2011 : 16:30:53 polishexpress - didn't listen to his rant, I rarely ever waste my time in that manner. So, I didn't know it was about a shot that close - if that is the case, my POV of hims is once again confirmed: he is an idiot who tries so hard to look like a genius.
The puck in practice thing I saw on mute, actually, and guess what he was talking about. What a fool, giving crap to a player for a bit of a fluke play like that . . . really silly nitpicking, IMHO.
lol. That's what I get for defending that clown! 
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nuxfan |
Posted - 05/16/2011 : 14:09:48 The shot was indeed from Torres, and it high Luongo high in the chest, in an area where there is no padding - it looked like it hurt, Lu left the ice right away. Collective holding-of-the-breath moment for fans.
While I like players to warm the goalie up properly, Torres has enough time in a warmup to notice that the puck is on edge, and not take that shot. But hey, all good now. |
Guest4178 |
Posted - 05/16/2011 : 13:32:39 In the intermission at last night's game between the Canucks and Sharks, Cherry was ranting about a shot taken from a Vancouver player he didn't want to name (it was Torres) which took place in the warmup.
The puck may have been rolling slightly, and Cherry's point of view was that the Vancouver player should have been more careful, because the puck ended up going a bit high on Luongo.
I'm pretty sure players know to keep the puck down when taking slappers in the warmup. Once in a while, the puck will bounce or roll, which can cause a puck to go higher than expected. I don't know any player who hasn't experienced a puck going in a direction not intended. |
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Posted - 05/16/2011 : 09:01:47 Mr. Slozo, Don Cherry's rant during the TB-BOS game 1 was when they showed the replay of the short side goal that Clark scored (to make it 2-0 tampa), and he was saying keep the stick out of the way. That particular play had nothing to do with point shots, and every d-man in the league would have tried to put their stick in the way.
It's obvious that if you can't block it completely, get out of the way of a point shot. Many a time my goalie was incensed at me not getting out of the way.
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Posted - 05/16/2011 : 06:24:05 I dislike Don Cherry, but I think you guys miss his main point, which I find to be a valid one:
Don't extend your stick wildly in front of a shot from THE POINT. The key is, if the shot is from a spot where almost any goalie will make a save on it 99% of the time . . . let it get to the net unimpeded and undeflected. Also saves on dental work when it deflects off your stick into your mouth, even when wearing a visor.
Boston does, actually, employ this strategy most of the time - the d-men move aside for shots from the point to allow Thomas to see the puck better and make the save.
Once it gets in the 15 foot area, however, yeah - I think you do whatever you can to get in the way, and defences league wide have all been doing that for years now, perfecting it in a way which was totally unseen in the 80's.
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Guest9904 |
Posted - 05/15/2011 : 23:22:01 That ticked me off too! This in reference to the Game 1 BOS-TB game, where a puck deflected of a stick of a defenseman and into the net, making Thomas look like he let a softie in.
What's the else is the d-man supposed to do in a play like that?
It seems to me that Cherry wants nothing to be done, which to me is tantamount to rolling out the red carpet. |
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