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| Alex116 |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 08:08:42
Tragedy has struck the KHL as a plane carrying a team (Lokomotiv Yaroslavl) has crashed, killing at least 43! Apparently, Brad McCrimmon of Canada is the coach and i've heard reports that Ruslan Salei was on the team (unconfirmed). Not sure if they were on the plane, this is just being reported from what i understand!!!
Just read elsewhere that Pavol Demitra was on the team as well, again, no confirmation if he was on board?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=375297 |
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| Alex116 |
Posted - 09/18/2011 : 20:51:45
Irv, sad, but prob true. A lot of survivors of accidents like this often feel guilt that they lived and others died. Not sure that would have affected him considering everything you mentioned he'd be dealing with though.
Regardless, very sad. |
| irvine |
Posted - 09/18/2011 : 15:41:45
To be frank, I'd much prefer passing away over having to live with severe burns over 90% of my body.
The healing process is (as I hear,) far worse than the actual initial pain. You live every day, unable to move fully. When you do move, the skin cracking causes intense pain. That's not even the worse...
Being dipped in solution to help cure the wounds and keep you clean of bacteria, causes extreme pain. Ouch.
Tragic, but to be honest, it may have been best for him. :/
Irvine/prez. |
| Guest9504 |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 16:34:00
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Originally posted by Guest6133
According to Russian media Sizov (he's actually a mechanic) suffers from fractured skull, his leg is broken in several places and he has burns on 10% of his body. He is expected to recover.
That is great news (relatively speaking of course) He probably won't have a moment of peace for a long time, being the only survivor of such a notorious plane crash. I hope he is able to deal with it. It would be very tough to live with especially knowing that people will never let you forget it. |
| Guest6133 |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 14:57:32
According to Russian media Sizov (he's actually a mechanic) suffers from fractured skull, his leg is broken in several places and he has burns on 10% of his body. He is expected to recover. |
| leigh |
Posted - 09/12/2011 : 11:44:16
I just read on TSN that the only surviving team player, Alexander Galimov, died today from his injuries.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=375634
He had burns over 90% of his body plus various other injuries and was in the burn unit in Vishnevsky when he died.
Now there is only one other person who is alive from the crash is the flight attendant Alexander Sizov. They don't say what his injuries are but they are severe and he is in intensive care. I hope that if he pulls through he can have a relatively good quality of life. Does anyone know what his injuries are? |
| irvine |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 14:23:41
It just goes to show, how unpredictable life can be.
It's sad to see a life taken, short. Any life. Including 43 in a single accident.
Hopefully, the City of the team can come together, and make it thru this tragedy. Including, the families involved.
Irvine/prez. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 09/09/2011 : 11:32:17
Funny, originally i'd heard the plane was actually one of the better ones (not so old) compared to most Russian airliners, but since have heard what you guys have mentioned, that it was indeed a substandard aircraft, old and ready for the scrap yard. So sad that a country like this can't get a grip on their planes!
As far as Crosby is concerned, i didn't see the presser and don't know what the original speaker said but i have to assume he was speaking on behalf of the entire Pens organization in which case, there was no need for Sid to say anything. Had he, fine, but i'm not gonna persecute him for not mentioning it. |
| ryan93 |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 18:30:13
Just a terrible tragedy.
While so many family & friends were afftected by this, the loss of Pavol Demitra really hits home with myself. I had the privilege of watching him play 3 seasons for my hometown PEI Senators. It was a pleasure watching him play every night. I met him a couple of times, and he seemed like a great person. I followed his NHL career closely...one of my all-time favorite players! |
| Oilearl |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 12:55:59
The Penquins made a statement at the beginning prior to discussing Crosby's status. Pretty sure they probably suggested that Sid stick to the reason for the press conference.
Have to agree with Bean's Grandpappy analogy !!  |
| leigh |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 12:52:45
I had a hard time sleeping last night thinking about those poor people on the plane. Also thinking about the survior with 80% burns on his body. It should make us think and be grateful to be alive. Everyday is a new opportunity folks. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 11:29:23
I think before we make assumptions on what Crosby should have or should not have said, did he know what was going on??? If he did not have enough information on the situation he very well could have made an insensative statement without realizing it.
Just like my grandpappy used to say, better keep your mouth shut and have people think you are a fool than open your mouth and confirm it for them. |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 10:05:46
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Originally posted by Beans15
I just read on TSN that Lokomitiv will rebuild their team and ice a squad this season. Apparently the KHL head has suggested that each of the other teams should offer 3-4 player each to ice a team. There are 35 players that have already put their names forward.
It always inspiring to see people committed to move on after such a tragedy.
I heard through a guy at work that Dave King who is coaching in the KHL recently had a conversation with Brad McCrimmon. McCrimon was mulling over the job offer to coach at Lokomotiv and was asking King's advice. King apparently said everything was great except the travel and that the safety of travel was questionable. That's a little haunting.
I also heard this specific plane was intended to be decommissioned in the next few months but the preliminary assumption is the crash was caused by poor fuel.
Tragic.
Haunting conversation indeed, Beans. Makes you think about those things like safety even if the money offered is great.
I heard the plane was going to be decommissioned in 3 weeks, myself. Whatever the case, I do know that flying in Russia is pretty damn scary (did it a long time ago travelling in Europe) and something I would always avoid. Working for a KHL team, however, it would be impossible with the incredible distances involved . . . they are worse off than the NHL for the logistics of travel.
On another note,
I hear some people are trying to make a fuss about Crosby still going ahead with his press conference yesterday, and himself not mentioning his thoughts or condolences for the tragedy (the first person to speak did, can't remember if it was Shero or a doctor). Wonder what others think about that?
Myself, I think it was fine that he didn't cancel the press conference . . . I mean, a lot of arrangements are made, people fly in for it (press), etc. But I did think it was a bit thoughtless of Crosby himself not to make mention of it. Not enough for me to particularly slag him or anything, but . . . it should have been mentioned, for sure.
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| Guest4178 |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 08:53:09
There was another major air crash tragedy which occurred to a sports team – not a professional sports team, but a university sports team – the Marshall University Thundering Herd.
It happened in 1970, and all 75 people were killed in the crash, including 37 players and 5 coaches. Fans and friends of the team were also on board – there were no survivors. The original thought was to fold the team, but the team went on to finish the season.
A very good movie was made about this story (We Are Marshall), how the team (and community) dealt with this tragedy, and how they moved on, but never forgetting their fallen teammates, and all who died in the crash. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 08:40:47
I just read on TSN that Lokomitiv will rebuild their team and ice a squad this season. Apparently the KHL head has suggested that each of the other teams should offer 3-4 player each to ice a team. There are 35 players that have already put their names forward.
It always inspiring to see people committed to move on after such a tragedy.
I heard through a guy at work that Dave King who is coaching in the KHL recently had a conversation with Brad McCrimmon. McCrimon was mulling over the job offer to coach at Lokomotiv and was asking King's advice. King apparently said everything was great except the travel and that the safety of travel was questionable. That's a little haunting.
I also heard this specific plane was intended to be decommissioned in the next few months but the preliminary assumption is the crash was caused by poor fuel.
Tragic. |
| Guest9503 |
Posted - 09/08/2011 : 08:15:43
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Originally posted by Guest2726
I know it happened to an english soccer team. Can't remeber if it was a national team or a club team.
It was Manchester United in 1958. They lost 8 players, not the whole team, and were even able to complete the season.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_air_disaster |
| MrBoogedy |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 21:40:05
wow. just unbelievable. |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 16:10:24
what a terrible terrible loss for all on board you have lost their lives from the pilots and plain staff right to the biggest superstar on board just a terrible loss
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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| n/a |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 10:41:45
Guest 2726 - you might have been thinking of the story that the movie "Alive" was based on, about a Uruguayan rugby team along with some other plane occupants all crashing in the Andes mountains. Great movie on the 16 survivors, and how they survived.
Unfortunately, no such awesomely lucky crash landing (going down the side of a steep snowy mountain) here though, for the current KHL story.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Guest2726 |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 09:29:00
I know it happened to an english soccer team. Can't remeber if it was a national team or a club team. |
| just1n |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 09:12:04
Insane. It's been a tragedy a week in hockey this summer.
I've wondered about this kind of scenario happening though - has it happened before with a major sports team?
RIP Lokomotiv :( |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 09:11:11
I had no idea there would be so many names attached to this that I would recognise. A terrible, terrible tragedy.
Had no idea Demitra, Salei and Skrastins were playing in the KHL,
Just a terrible tragedy, my heart goes out to the many families involved.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Oilearl |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 08:53:40
wow how horrible!!!!!!! |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 09/07/2011 : 08:29:37
The following bit's are from Yahoo Sports "Puck Daddy" column.....
Among the NHL alumni on Lokomotiv's roster as of Aug. 31: Josef Vasicek, Pavol Demitra(notes), Karel Rachunek, Ruslan Salei(notes), Karlis Skrastins(notes) and Red Wings goalie prospect Stefan Liv.
UPDATE: Puck Daddy's Dmitry Chesnokov reports that "Lokomotiv official tells Sovetsky Sport 'everyone from the main roster was on the plane plus four players from the youth team.' Lokomotiv official said the entire team was on the plane because they were traveling for the 1st game of the season, a celebration."
Full article: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Plane-crash-kills-8216-majority-8217-of-KHL-;_ylt=AidAA.rRxMglp199JWZ7MKxShgM6?urn=nhl-wp11993
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