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| solo |
Posted - 12/03/2002 : 12:19:18
I would like to address the issue of the lack of excitement, aka fighting and scoring, that has steadily decreased over the past few years. Granted, this could be a result of the new rules that have been implemented this year, however I would have liked to see more scoring as a result of the "non-interference" rules.
In addition, what the heck happened to Iginla? That guy was unstoppable last year and this year is about as ferocious as a bunny at a dog show. |
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| coastie |
Posted - 05/21/2003 : 22:11:26
I like the "retro" idea. I think it'd be cool to see the sweaters of old.
How about bringing back the Seattle Metro's too. The Seattle area sure could use a little pro hockey.
Didn't the Bay area of California once have a hockey team too? |
| Cush29 |
Posted - 05/19/2003 : 11:47:03
Expansion? I say the NHL should go "retro" for the 2004 Season (possibly the last season until a lock out).
Retro to the early 80's or even 70's by doing the following:
Move all teams which have been moved, sold or otherwise made a city longing for their beloved NHL team back. I'm talking about the following:
Altana SEALS *(but leave the Flames in Calgary)
Winnipeg Jets
Hartford Whalers
Quebec Nordics *(yes the Colorado Av's need to return to "la belle province")
Colorado Rockies - Complete with Don Cherry behind the bench
All teams must default back and wear retro jerseys - Including the Vancouver Canucks dreaded "V" jerseys - Yellow, Black and whites
Ticket prices are to be slashed and put back to the pre 1980's cost.
Gretzky and Lemieux both come back to their teams, and the "Great One" dons the blue, orange and white of his home in Edmonton.
Re-enter Ron Hextall, Billy Smith, "Motor City Smitty", Tiger Williams, Wendel Clark, and the list goes on.....
Fighting is to once again be "OK" in hockey, and when things get really hairy, a "bench clearing brawl" actually happens without hundreads of thousands of dollars in fines, police charges and the other BS you see now a days....
This is my personal opinion of how the NHL could revive and attract new interest. Right or wrong, as silly as it seems it's just my wish!
Anyone see anything I forgot in my "retro request" of the NHL?
Cheers! |
| Mystery13 |
Posted - 04/30/2003 : 13:06:22
I think that eliminating the two-line pass would speed up the game considerably, especially through the neutral zone. I know that it would cause havac with the teams that play a lot of neutral zone trap (mostly in the eastern conference), but it would just take some adjustment. It would also have to lead to more odd-man breaks and total breakaways. Those are always exciting to watch. |
| coastie |
Posted - 03/15/2003 : 02:21:19
quote:
Originally posted by leigh
Coastie...I like your points above but I have to correct you. There were only 6 original teams not 8. :-) montreal, toronto, detroit, chicago, boston, new york. Man those must have been exciting times!
Hehe, I knew that. UGH!
I agree with everything you said, accept for the 10 4 on 4 OT. The sudden death 5 man overtime is more intensity than I can handle anyway. Anymore intensity, and I think my wife spedn the rest of the night in convulsions... she hates OT, makes her too nervous.
The problem I have is that by that time of night, the four on four special team(s) are all but worn out. I think it'd make for some slow painful hockey.
Regarding the dives, nothing makes me angrier than seeing a bruiser like McSorely take a dive off of someone like Gilmour. The dives just add to the lopsided officiating, but then again, calling dives adds to the aura of injustice too, so I guess that's a catch-22.
As far as expansion... I have to completely disagree with KickSmile. The NHL is expanding too fast and spreading it's resources WAY too thin. It shoulda stopped a long time ago.
And for salary caps, what could it hurt? No other league in the world makes anywhere near the kind of money our pros make, they might still be able to make ends meet with a mere 3 mil. Sheesh. |
| KickSmile |
Posted - 03/07/2003 : 08:50:02
I totally agree with what you said about shoot outs. If you actually play hockey you know first hand how stupid this is. After the whole team plays a full game so hard that it results in a tie and you have to finish it some way a shoot out is horrible. It comes down to who has the best INDIVIDUAL skaters and goalies. This defeats the whole purpose of having a hockey team.
Also delayed off-sides needs to come back i agree. Stopping the game for anything slows it down.
The salary cap wouldnt work because players would get paid much more for doing a commercial or endorsing a product. Who knows how much players get for having a curve on a stick designed for them or for selling nike skates in a over-romantically representation of hockey by a man that can barely speak english.
I do however disagree with the limited teams. Spreading teams out lets fans who happen to live is remote locations to hockey, for example every southern state other than florida which doesnt count due to its overwhelming ageing canadian population, would be denied a good hockey game. After moving down from calgary to kentucky i can tell you its extremely depressing to play with no competition players and only watch detriot games on espn. Anti-expansion beliefs are what are killing the canadian teams not the canadian dollar. Players arent making all that much in comparrison to basketball or baseball players who make exponentially more than even the highest paid NHL player. If the canuck buck didnt measure up then basketball and baseball would have been long gone on canadian soil. And in response to this posts original topic..... get off my ice and go play cards or with your dolls you wuss.quote:
Originally posted by leigh
Coastie...I like your points above but I have to correct you. There were only 6 original teams not 8. :-) montreal, toronto, detroit, chicago, boston, new york. Man those must have been exciting times! The rivalries must have been out of this world. Travel was a snap (milage speaking of course, I don't imagine the bus travel was too comfy)
here's what I think would help the game...
1) Forget about the diving...it happens. let the fans yell and scream and the players remember the numbers of those that do it. It builds up passion, something the game is lacking these days.
2) let the league police fighting, keep the govt and legal people out. the Mcsorely hit on Brashear was aweful but NHL players asume some risk when they sign on the dotted line. Besides it sure would have been interesting to see what Brashear would have done to him the next time they met.
3) Hurry-up face offs are great! Quicker games.
4) 10 minute 4 on 4 OT. More games would end with a winner. and since the games are shorter now we can afford 10 more minutes to finish up.
5) Don't add that rediculous shoot out to decide a tie. keep that for special international events and meaningless games like the All-Star break.
6) delayed off-side was way better. Bring it back.
7) A smaller space behind the net was truely exciting. (wayne gretzky made a living there) man that was awesome. big hits too.
8) Salary cap at 3 million. Players have too much freedom. Too much money. They're spoiled. It's killing small market teams.
That's just the way I see it.
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| leigh |
Posted - 02/20/2003 : 16:34:12
Coastie...I like your points above but I have to correct you. There were only 6 original teams not 8. :-) montreal, toronto, detroit, chicago, boston, new york. Man those must have been exciting times! The rivalries must have been out of this world. Travel was a snap (milage speaking of course, I don't imagine the bus travel was too comfy)
here's what I think would help the game...
1) Forget about the diving...it happens. let the fans yell and scream and the players remember the numbers of those that do it. It builds up passion, something the game is lacking these days.
2) let the league police fighting, keep the govt and legal people out. the Mcsorely hit on Brashear was aweful but NHL players asume some risk when they sign on the dotted line. Besides it sure would have been interesting to see what Brashear would have done to him the next time they met.
3) Hurry-up face offs are great! Quicker games.
4) 10 minute 4 on 4 OT. More games would end with a winner. and since the games are shorter now we can afford 10 more minutes to finish up.
5) Don't add that rediculous shoot out to decide a tie. keep that for special international events and meaningless games like the All-Star break.
6) delayed off-side was way better. Bring it back.
7) A smaller space behind the net was truely exciting. (wayne gretzky made a living there) man that was awesome. big hits too.
8) Salary cap at 3 million. Players have too much freedom. Too much money. They're spoiled. It's killing small market teams.
That's just the way I see it. |
| coastie |
Posted - 12/23/2002 : 23:17:59
However, on the other hand... There is a great book out called the deathe of hockey by Jeff Z. Klein and Karl-Eric Reif.
The book is more about the problems in the NHL than the death of hockey, but whatever, you know? I really reccommend this book for most anyone who loves or loved hockey.
They bring up some good points like "Too Much expansion?"
I agree with this to a point. The problem is that under the current financial rules of the NHL expansion teams are not spaced far enough apart on the timeline.
Without revenue sharing teams like Tampa Bay and Nashville Predators are kind of like your little toe. It's there, you like it, but what does it really add to your foot? Their just dead weight, who won't be able to compete with big market teams like the Rangers, Sens, Devils, etc.
Shorter schedule. MMM... lots of good reasons for that. Fewer injuries, better rested players. For example... the other day the Sharks playedfour games in three different timezones in five days and got their silicon valley butts whipped by the Sens 9-3.
I'm sure there are some Ontarians who were quite happy with that, but in my opinion, that's bad hockey.
Tightening of rules. Smaller problem, but worth noting, too many rules make it hard for players to really play.
I agree, in a sense, that hockey has become too much like baseball (minus that outlandish... excuse me... extremely outlandish pay that comes dangerously close to equalling the Canadian GNP).
It will be a sad day when (it might already be here) when hockey has grown unchecked into another MLB, or NBA.
Regardless, I will never stop loving or stop watching the world's best sport. Original eight or expanded 1,365 teams, I'll still fork out $170 to purchase every televised hockey game of the year. And my wife and I will always bicker over Canadian and American hockey teams.
Drink beer and love hockey!
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| coastie |
Posted - 12/23/2002 : 23:02:06
quote:
Originally posted by solo
It is obvious from the overwhelming response to this topic that not everyone shares my view, which is understandable since I am trying to reason with a bunch of sheep loving, Kmart shoes wearing, crusty jersey wearing, "wish I were taller than 5 feet", mama's boys.
Well that's not nice.
What's wrong with K-Mart shoes? ;) |
| admin |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 12:22:15
K fellas. Let's just settle down now. Keep it clean, remember your grandmother is a hockey fan too. |
| solo |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 11:44:56
It is obvious from the overwhelming response to this topic that not everyone shares my view, which is understandable since I am trying to reason with a bunch of sheep loving, Kmart shoes wearing, crusty jersey wearing, "wish I were taller than 5 feet", mama's boys. |
| supertom |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 11:33:08
What kind of a freak are you...'why is hockey so boring' go back to your 'pickuplosers.com' board and post your moronic comments somewhere else. |
| coastie |
Posted - 12/20/2002 : 03:34:06
I think the games have improved a lot with the new face off rules. Hockey just keeps on getting better. But it's a heck of a lot more fun to sit back and talk like salty old sailors about back when Seattle had a NHL team.
Move ON... thing change... except it and stay loyal to the greatest sport on earth. |
| mike |
Posted - 12/19/2002 : 17:15:08
I think some people just need to have something to whine about... I agree with the previous poster... why not move to Florida, buy some white shoes, pull your pants up to your armpits and complain about George Bush full time... but spare us your tears. Jeeeesh...! |
| Mark |
Posted - 12/06/2002 : 20:50:19
Give your head a shake. I'll admit it's not quite like the NBA or NFL that takes a 1/2 hour to play the last 2 minutes but..............
Maybe we should bring back the blue streak on the puck to help you understand the game !
Go back to Florida, bring out the walker, play your shuffleboard with the rest of the bluehairs ! |
| kovich6 |
Posted - 12/04/2002 : 11:29:30
The rinks are too small and todays players are too big and fit. The result is too much traffic in the score zone. Plus goalie technology and training and equipment (ITECH!) is vastly improved. |
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