| T O P I C R E V I E W |
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Posted - 06/15/2010 : 10:27:50
When will the trading and signing floodgates open . . . until then, let the speculation begin! Which big names are moving or re-signing with their old teams? Give us your best guesses, and by all means, fill us in with the hot local rumours we may not have heard about. Let us in on the draft day (June 25/26) trades that you think may happen.
The champion Hawks had Kane and Toews get $5 mil worth of bonuses putting them a further 5 million or so under the cap, with only 14 players signed . . . who is moving, and for what price?
Will Marleau re-sign, or try his luck elsewhere?
Are the Spezza rumblings real?
Who signs Kovalchuk, or does he go to the KHL?
Does a Kaberle deal finally happen, and do the Leafs get a first rounder for him?
Where do Oli Jokinen, Frolov, Kariya, Hamhuis sign?
Are Brad Boyes and Wojitek Wolski still available?
Give us your rumours! And when available, please provide a link if you feel it's a solid tip . . .
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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| nuxfan |
Posted - 10/12/2010 : 21:27:45
was just reading an article about Souray - apparently his move to the AHL actually gives him a raise, as he no longer loses 18% of his salary to escrow (same will apply to Redden). Not bad, that works out to about 1M extra in his pocket this season. |
| Guest4636 |
Posted - 10/12/2010 : 07:36:36
Sheldon souray is a Bum and I hope he stays in the Minors all season .. Selffish idiot.. all aboyut himself wasnt about that team...Rout in the Minors Souray.... |
| semin-rules |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 11:21:29
quote:
Originally posted by Alex116
Boston signs Patrice Bergeron for 3 years, 15 million dollars.
Yes !!!
I love Bergeron and the Bruins as well :)
solid amount to. He is in his prime and will contribute lots these next few years. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 10/08/2010 : 10:11:47
Boston signs Patrice Bergeron for 3 years, 15 million dollars. |
| Gusteroni |
Posted - 10/06/2010 : 12:33:22
Souray has been loaned to the Hershey Bears!!! How about that for a kick in the arse!!! I guess he will spending the season in the minors.
"When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too." |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 10/01/2010 : 15:58:12
I'd have to think that a team will take him at half the salary! Edm will have to eat the other half. |
| Guest4804 |
Posted - 10/01/2010 : 12:08:01
Souray and Gerber both clear waivers. I think gerber will go to the AHL and souray will go on re-entry waivers in hopes that another team will want him for half the salary. |
| Gusteroni |
Posted - 09/30/2010 : 13:15:13
I think the Islanders could also be in the market for Souray. They have the cap space and with Mark Streit out they may have the need for him. They might even need Souray just to get to the cap minimum.
"When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too." |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/30/2010 : 12:00:47
Souray is too over valued and too injury proned at this time. If he does actually go down and is healthy after about 20 games in the AHL then there may be a market for him if there is a floundering offense or a key injury somewhere.
That being said, perhaps Souray will clear waivers and asked to be loaned to the KHL somewhere??
Gerber is a back up and best and will also not get picked up. However, it is nice insurance to have him in the minors.
Neither will be picked up. If they are picked up, I will be shocked. The only outside team I can see even sniffing at Souray is STL. They have the cap room and a pretty average defense after Johnson and Brewer. |
| Gusteroni |
Posted - 09/30/2010 : 10:22:01
It is being reported today that the Oilers have placed Souray and Gerber on waivers. Finally we may see an end to this Souray drama. I wonder if anyone will pick either of these two up or if they both end up in Oklahoma City playing for the Barons. Would you pick either of these two up?
"When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too." |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 09/22/2010 : 03:06:43
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Cammalleri is a game changer. Period. I would put him in a group of elite offensive player in the NHL today. He belongs with the likes of Ovechkin, Crosby, Kovalchuk, Parise, Heatley, et al. He is often overlooked based on where he has played in his career and the fact that is is barely marketed outside of Montreal.
Would I pay Cammalleri $6 million?? Absolutely. I would pay him that before I would pay Penner $4.25 or Ryan $5 million. He is a step up on both of those guys.
Wow beans i thought i was the only one who thought so highly of Mike Cammalleri, i thought it was my red coloured glasses and a super human playoffs that had me putting him a step below the Heatly's of the world,, in that case you trump my argument!
Pasty |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 14:22:52
I don' t think Commodore is such a bad pickup, really. He's a huge hulking stay-at-home dman that would be a good defensive addition to the Oil. They lose an offensive punch, but they have Whitney and Foster to provide that.
Plus, bonus points if he grows his hair into that huge red afro again. Also, extra bonus points if he takes #64 again like he did in CGY 
From an article I found:
quote:
"Whoever gets me is going to be happy," Souray told The Edmonton Journal last week, "and they're going to get a pretty motivated Sheldon Souray."
Sadly for EDM, that is probably true. Once Souray moves, he'll probably have a great season. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 09/21/2010 : 00:16:32
Interesting (the Ryan deal).....i agree with whoever said his numbers may just be inflated slightly considering the guys he plays with. A good comparison was Kessel. What would his numbers look like with Getzlaf and Perry? |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/20/2010 : 18:07:13
Wow.
That rumour Beans says a lot about how desperate the Oilers are to get rid of Souray's contract, if true. Imagine if the Oil actually spent to the cap, eh?
Souray is a solid puck moving d-man, but his numbers have taken a big dip, so really, not a bad pick-up if it's for a utility player like Commodore. Would be a good deal both ways, considering the situation.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/20/2010 : 15:32:47
New rumor on the Sheldon Souray front is a straight up deal of Souray to CBJ for Mike Commodore. Apparently the Jackets are looking for a big shot from the point and the Oilers are looking for absolutely anything.
Commodore is a cap friendlier $3.75 million through 12/13 and would fit reasonably well into the Oilers fold.
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| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/15/2010 : 22:41:02
Cammalleri is a game changer. Period. I would put him in a group of elite offensive player in the NHL today. He belongs with the likes of Ovechkin, Crosby, Kovalchuk, Parise, Heatley, et al. He is often overlooked based on where he has played in his career and the fact that is is barely marketed outside of Montreal.
Would I pay Cammalleri $6 million?? Absolutely. I would pay him that before I would pay Penner $4.25 or Ryan $5 million. He is a step up on both of those guys. |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 09/15/2010 : 14:12:00
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
A one dimensional goal scorer's salary is on a very slippery scale. A 40+ goal scorer is easily worth $6+ million. A 30-40 a year guy is around $4.5-$5.5 million. Less than 30 goals is not worth $4.5 million.
Considering that Penner signed a 5 year deal and had a grand total of 40 goals and 84 points through the first 2 season, he was overpaid. At last year's production (32G, 63 Pts) he is closer. He is only worth that money if he has 2 more seasons of 30+ goal seasons.
This will be similar to Ryan. If he has less than 35 goals a season, I would consider it an overpay as he really doesn't bring anything else to the table.
would you Consider Cammalleri over paid a 6 mil? he is by no means a north south player,, he is however a very good play maker but by all means is considerd a one dimensional sniper, granted he has consitently proven he is a 30 + goal scorer
Pasty |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/15/2010 : 09:51:03
A one dimensional goal scorer's salary is on a very slippery scale. A 40+ goal scorer is easily worth $6+ million. A 30-40 a year guy is around $4.5-$5.5 million. Less than 30 goals is not worth $4.5 million.
Considering that Penner signed a 5 year deal and had a grand total of 40 goals and 84 points through the first 2 season, he was overpaid. At last year's production (32G, 63 Pts) he is closer. He is only worth that money if he has 2 more seasons of 30+ goal seasons.
This will be similar to Ryan. If he has less than 35 goals a season, I would consider it an overpay as he really doesn't bring anything else to the table. |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 09/15/2010 : 08:18:48
If it bites them in the junk, it'll be their own fault as Ryan only wanted 2-3 years and the Ducks pushed for 5.
"Can't see the forest for the trees? BUY A CHAINSAW !!" |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 09/15/2010 : 07:33:58
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Bobby Ryan - $25.5 million for 5 years.
I think this contract might end up biting the Ducks in the junk. Although Ryan is younger and ultimately more skilled, this deal still reminds me a bit of the Penner deal. (On a side bar, Penner had as many points and goals last season getting a million less per year on a far inferious team for anyone who thinks the comparison is unreasonable.)
This deal is only solid if Ryan continued to improve. I think it's more likely Ryan will continue to stay at the 35ish goals per year mark, however if he slips to the 25ish level, he is overpaid. I admit I have not watching more than 5-6 games a year of Ryan, he is a very talented offensive player but that's really it. Does little to nothing on the back end in the games I have watched and really has never looked to be an impact player. He is a silent assassin I guess. For $5+ million a season, anything less than 35 goals without stepping up the rest of his game is going to be an overpayment.
is he really overpaid?? Penner sure as hell is not overpaid,,,, 4.5 million is not much for a 30 goal scorer... just take a look around the league,,, Mike Cammalleri ,, god knows i love the guy.. but he doesn`t do much on the back end (full of heart its not that he doesn;t go back he is just not pk material) what does my boy mike make 6 million a year,, hes not much more than a 30 goal scorer with potential for 40 ,, Brian Gionta same deal except he is very much a 2 way player but again 5 million,,, their is a list as long as my... eh hem of 5 million $ players who are 30 goal scorers at best ,, so Bobby Ryan i think great contract at 25 in his prime he could easily score 45 next to Geztlaf... 5 million for a 45 goal scorer is awsome,,, and 5 mil for a 25 goal scorer is not ridiculous, even in the worst case scenerio he is very tradeable because he has scored 30 plus twice
Pasty |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/15/2010 : 07:09:46
It's hard to say about Bobby Ryan really . . . even though he scored 31 and 35 goals the last two seasons, I don't think he has the skill of a guy like Kessel, and his numbers are inflated by who he plays with - namely, Getzlaf. But then again, he brings a bit more to the table than a Kessel does in terms of going hard to the net and in the corners, and is a somewhat physical player.
Still, like Beans said, he could easily become a Penner and be overpaid. I like the signing though, as Anaheim had to keep him.
Sometimes you have to overpay a bit to keep who you want, that's business.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/14/2010 : 11:01:42
Bobby Ryan - $25.5 million for 5 years.
I think this contract might end up biting the Ducks in the junk. Although Ryan is younger and ultimately more skilled, this deal still reminds me a bit of the Penner deal. (On a side bar, Penner had as many points and goals last season getting a million less per year on a far inferious team for anyone who thinks the comparison is unreasonable.)
This deal is only solid if Ryan continued to improve. I think it's more likely Ryan will continue to stay at the 35ish goals per year mark, however if he slips to the 25ish level, he is overpaid. I admit I have not watching more than 5-6 games a year of Ryan, he is a very talented offensive player but that's really it. Does little to nothing on the back end in the games I have watched and really has never looked to be an impact player. He is a silent assassin I guess. For $5+ million a season, anything less than 35 goals without stepping up the rest of his game is going to be an overpayment. |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/11/2010 : 05:00:31
For some reason, even though they are different types of players, with Cogliano I am reminded of the struggles the Leafs organisation had with Antropov. Full of potential, has skill, needs lots of time to grow and learn.
He could be the guy that, like Antropov, is putting up 60 points on the first or second line some day . . . but will the Oilers wait for more than a year? I doubt it, with the amount of young talent they have, there are sure to be other possibilities cropping up in a year's time.
Cogs will have to put up a great season to stay, I agree.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/10/2010 : 13:47:49
quote:
Originally posted by Sensfan101
Andrew Cogliano resigns in Edmonton terms not yet released.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky
1 year, $1 million.
Looks like a put up or shut up deal. Cogliano has been a disappointment based on his potential prior to the draft. He's gotta step up his game and produce. |
| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 09/10/2010 : 12:46:55
Andrew Cogliano resigns in Edmonton terms not yet released.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 09/04/2010 : 12:56:09
Jonathon Cheechoo accepts a tryout with the Dallas stars. I actually really liked the way Cheechoo played in Ottawa just not at 4 million a season. I think he could be a good 3rd/4th liner without the pressure of a huge contract.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| irvine |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 22:28:35
The Colorado Avalanche have re-signed last years leading goal scorer (for the team), to a 2-year, $6MM deal. Chris Stewart will earn $3MM per season.
Great re-sign.
Irvine/prez. |
| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 14:54:54
Penguins sign comrie to a 1 year 500 k deal.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 17:16:45
I think the Price deal is good for both sides. The Habs can get out in a relatively short time if he doesn't come through and for Price, if he proves himself to be anywhere near what he's shown flashes of, his next contract will reward him sooner! |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 14:42:34
yeah, I'm not sure if the Habs got good value - but for only 2 years, if Price continues to do poorly they can walk away sooner rather than later. I figured this deal would come in around 2M per year for 2 years. Price was pretty adamant that he didn't want to be locked up for very long at a discount rate. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 14:12:06
Cary Price signed for $5.5 million over 2 years.
Well, pretty close to crazy, but at least the guy has more than 100 NHL games. Say what you will about him, but last season was conidered 'horrible' and he still had a GAA under 3 and a save % over .910.
It's obvious that the Habs don't have long term faith in the kid with just a 2 year deal, but they did give him more than what I think he would have/should have gotten on the open market so they have at least some faith in him. |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 11:34:56
quote:
What was Chicago offering Niemi??? Does anyone know?? I have read reports of anything between $1 million and a little more than double his rookie contract at $1.75 million.
If the latter was true, he ended up making a killer $250,000 more this year and went to a team that did not win the Cup last season.
That being said, if SJ wins the Cup this year with Niemi as the back stop, he will absolutely get $4+ million a season. It could turn into a brilliant move by the Fin.
There were only rumours about the deal CHI was offering, but the most consistent ones I read was a 2-3 year deal @ just under 2M per year. However, once the arbitrator awarded him his contract, CHI was bound to that deal or no deal. Any other team was free to sign him for whatever they wanted - hence SJ's deal.
I agree, this is a good move by Niemi, but ultimately, his possible moves were severely limited - only 4 teams interested, and likely none of them offering anything long-term. |
| n/a |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 11:23:01
Niemi signs a 1 year deal worth 2 mil. Good Job, Antti! You now have the chance (halfway there) to play ordinary in goal, and win two cups with two different teams . . . both with dominating and deep defences. And, you have the chance to further pad your stats on a great team, and get an even better contract next year. I like the way Niemi's agent thinks!
But for me, it's a bit of a weird signing in some ways . . . as the other goalies on San Jose's roster are around the same level IMHO. Nittymaki is not a bad goaltender, and certainly is a very competent back-up, if not ready for a tandem position. And Greiss - a goalie that a lot of Sharks fans are really hot on - looks to be in the same position right now, while possibly being the goalie of the future.
So, with the signing of Niemi, I am almost thinking Nittymaki or Greiss will be traded . . . because I don't think either of them should be in the minors.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 09:16:43
So here is an interesting question.
What was Chicago offering Niemi??? Does anyone know?? I have read reports of anything between $1 million and a little more than double his rookie contract at $1.75 million.
If the latter was true, he ended up making a killer $250,000 more this year and went to a team that did not win the Cup last season.
That being said, if SJ wins the Cup this year with Niemi as the back stop, he will absolutely get $4+ million a season. It could turn into a brilliant move by the Fin.
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| Pasty7 |
Posted - 09/02/2010 : 07:29:57
quote:
Originally posted by polishexpress
Irony of irony that Beans used Toskala and the Sharks as a comparison to Niemi and the Hawks, because the Sharks are rumoured to signing Niemi by Thursday.
here is my source: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/09/01/niemi_sharks/
its offcial i thought jumbo joe would have beat me too this http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=332405
Pasty |
| polishexpress |
Posted - 09/01/2010 : 15:33:04
Irony of irony that Beans used Toskala and the Sharks as a comparison to Niemi and the Hawks, because the Sharks are rumoured to signing Niemi by Thursday.
here is my source: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/09/01/niemi_sharks/ |
| Leafs81 |
Posted - 09/01/2010 : 13:11:18
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
quote:
Originally posted by Leafs81
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
Ya, or he might be in jail for a month, or get a stay sentence, or a multitude of other potential outcomes.
Regardless, even if Khabibulin is out of the mix for good, I am still not convinced that Niemi would be worth the trouble. Firstly, the arbitrator has his head filled in that he is worth nearly $3 million a season. Secondly, the Oilers would have to either eat 2 of the deals of their goalies or find new homes for them.
And for what??? The Oilers are not going to win any more with Niemi than without him and by the time the team is good enough to win, who knows where Niemi will be, how much money he will want, or if he will be worth anything.
Vesa Toskala anyone????
There's one Toskala fan in the hockey world (other then his family and friends) and that's Beans...
Kudo's to you Beans you never gave up on this guy, and really maybe he could bounce back and if he does well you were the one believer.
I was a big fan of Felix Potvin back in the days and when he started getting worst I always thought he could get back to form then he had one good run with LA and that's it. But he did had that one good run 
I wasn't saying anything to be a fan of Toskala. What I intended is using him as an example of a Finnish goalie who played somewhat limited games on a very good team and signed for big money with a different team. Rightly or wrongly, he is now playing over seas. Just a fews season removed from playing with SJ in the playoffs.
Niemi could be very similar. No one knows. Point being, it's not worth the risk considering the 4 goalies the Oilers already have signed.
Ah ok I misunderstood. I thought you meant that the Oilers should go out and sign him. hehe... |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 09/01/2010 : 08:36:19
yeah, I agree, like I said before, he should just serve it and get it done, get to camp, and move on.
Apparently he is appealing based on the grounds that the blood/alcohol level was just over double (.164 reading, .16 is double), but with those readings there is a +/- 5% confidence level. If you take the argument that his reading was off by 5%, that takes him below the .16 double reading, and therefore nullifies the extreme DUI charge and jail time altogether.
A risk for sure. We'll see how it affects him, and the team, over the season until the appeal is heard |
| irvine |
Posted - 09/01/2010 : 03:38:37
Who appeals a drinking and driving conviction, really?
You were caught "bottle-handed", speeding while intoxicated.
You were sentenced to the MINIMUM sentence allowed by law in the State of Arizona, and yet that is not good enough? Above the law, or?
Honestly, the guy would serve 10-15 days on good behavior... now he risks a heavier sentence and delays the inevitable.
Really though, when you get the minimum sentence for something you clearly did, you do not appeal...
Irvine/prez. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 08/31/2010 : 20:51:51
After reading the stories out there about Khabibulin, I have to say the guy is a complete idiot. Seriously, do the time. 30 days turns into like 12 with good behaviour. It would be in a minimum security country club and he would be back in Edmonton in mid September with a couple of weeks to knock off the rust before the start of the season.
But no, he would rather do the appeal and potentially get an unfriendly judge that says no to the 30 days and gives him 180 days, giving the Oilers a very legitimate out for the contract.
Wow, I am shocked. |
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