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| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 08:08:59
Now to be quite honest I truly think the habs are basicly done wheeling and dealing. All that is left I believe on MTL's to do list is sign Carey Price. That being said as a habs fan I am not satisfied, i have watched every team in our Division get better this offseason and ultimatly I feel the habs have stayed idle as a bubble team, with 4.7 million in cap space to work with and only one player left to sign here is what i would do with the remainder of the off season,
Firstly it is time to dump the second half of the Kostitsyn Duo, there is most deffinetly someone out there interested in a young player who has shown the potential Ak has, a change of teams and this guy could be a legit 25 plus goal scorer, he has a 3.2 million cap hit with him, i wouldn't play hard ball for long and try and find a team interested,, perhaps the Islander a realtivly cheap top 6 winger to play with John Tavares,, the only catch is I do not want salary coming back, i would let Ak go for a second round pick and a realtivly normal prospect/ AHL player.
Now my next move is to get Price under contract for no more than 2 million a year,, idealy 1.2.
next according to the team 990 montreal radio the flyers have asked Gagne and his agent for a list of teams that he would like to go to, apprently he has said he wants to stay on the east coast,, (my bet is he ends up in NJ if NJ doesn't get Ilya) i would make a strong play for Gagne, i would work very hard to convince him Montreal is the right fit close to family and friends gurantee him top line duties with our best player and hopfully i could sell this city to him,
I honestly do not think this will happen but it is what i would Try and do because with the team it looks like we are planning to ice next year Cammalleri and Gionta are gonna have to score 50 goals each to finish better than 8th and even then.....
this is what i would like my team to look like,,,,
Plekanec-Cammalleri-Gagne
Gomez-Gionta-Pouliot
Eller-Lapierre-Moen
Pyatt-Boyd-Darche
Subban -Markov
Spacek-Hammirlik
Gill- Goerges
O'byrn
Callups same as last year Paciorrty Maxwell Ryan white
Auld -Price |
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| MrBoogedy |
Posted - 07/18/2010 : 21:58:56
Loosing Moore and Metropolit is a kick in the pants, can this off season get any worse? I shouldn't ask that because it very well may. First halak, then metro and moore, at least they dumped a kostitsyn. |
| redneck76ca |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 13:20:19
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tiller33[/i]
[br]Metropolit would certainly be a loss Moore I think is replacable (Can you believe we got a 2nd round pick for that guy?).
I would hope for Gauthier's sake that Lars Eller makes a strong bid to stay with the big club and that he puts up decent #'s or else his stay as GM of the Habs will be short lived.
I think Pierre might be your John Ferguson Jr.... I'm sorry thats too far.
Personally, I would rather keep Moore than Metro, and I really like the way that he played. |
| Tiller33 |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 13:05:45
Metropolit would certainly be a loss Moore I think is replacable (Can you believe we got a 2nd round pick for that guy?).
I would hope for Gauthier's sake that Lars Eller makes a strong bid to stay with the big club and that he puts up decent #'s or else his stay as GM of the Habs will be short lived.
I think Pierre might be your John Ferguson Jr.... I'm sorry thats too far. |
| polishexpress |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 12:48:19
That's too bad that they won't sign either moore or metropolit, if that is really their decision. From what I saw in the playoffs, I thought they were good pluggers... |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 12:05:55
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tiller33[/i]
[br]Oh Christ don't get me started on the LCBO/Beer Store, It's worth driving to Buffalo to buy beer with the prices they charge.
Have the Habs given any indication of whether or not they are gonna bring back Glen Metropolit? Seemed like he was a big part of their dressing room last year and a solid characther guy.
Actually i am quite dissapointed Gauthier announced that he feels Eller and Boyd will take over the roles of Metropolite and Moore two guys i really enjoyed having aboard.... and metro did put up 16 goals last year,, he is a ver versitaile player,, i think the habs are gonna regret this off season i mean the leafs got better adding 2 top six forwards... (and may not be done) the sens add a premier d man the sabres were tops in the division already and have improved a little bit,, and the Bruis add Seguin and Horton.,... i mean so far my prediction if the habs make the playoffs one of these teams fails badly below expectations and the habs make it on the last day of the regular season with an ot loss (again)
Pasty |
| Tiller33 |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 11:38:39
Oh Christ don't get me started on the LCBO/Beer Store, It's worth driving to Buffalo to buy beer with the prices they charge.
Have the Habs given any indication of whether or not they are gonna bring back Glen Metropolit? Seemed like he was a big part of their dressing room last year and a solid characther guy. |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 10:31:21
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tiller33[/i]
[br]quote:
[i]Originally posted by Pasty7[/i]
I don't know anyone on this site personnaly and i would take anyone of you ahead of AK 46 if you would just put in a constant effort every night,, Give me hlfk of the gifts he was given and i would be a 60 point player in the nhl for 20 years
Pasty
Well you already lucked out when we took Grabovski off your hands, so don't be greedy.
this be true remind me to buy you a beer next time i'm in T.O again (thats if i can find a place that sells beer in T.O, seriously i stayed downtown on young street this pas weekend to see the Jays and red soxs series and wow did i have a hard time finding a beer store or an LBO we have them on every street corner here in quebec!
Pasty |
| Tiller33 |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 10:23:47
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Pasty7[/i]
I don't know anyone on this site personnaly and i would take anyone of you ahead of AK 46 if you would just put in a constant effort every night,, Give me hlfk of the gifts he was given and i would be a 60 point player in the nhl for 20 years
Pasty
Well you already lucked out when we took Grabovski off your hands, so don't be greedy. |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/16/2010 : 05:39:06
quote:
[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]Gagne could be had for picks/prospects alone, for any team I think. PHI just needs his contract off the books, they have a lot of forwards for next year.
Patsy, how do you think AK will do next year without his brother? VAN fans always worried about the Sedin's being apart for a long time and whether play of one would be affected - although we put that worry mostly to bed last year. Do you think the Kostitsyn's have the same sort of chemistry together, or do you think Andrei will be better next year without his bro?
Well a lot of people feel together they were bad influence on each other, but something montreal fans always forget is when these two had their breakout year they saw a lot of pp time together with another lazy russian playing for the sens now,,, i know Andrei had his worst year last year since he showed such promise and this was also this year Sergei spent most of the year in the minors,, so it may have had an effect,, to be honest they are both cancers ,, i had herd from a source i will not mention but it is a very good one,, that Cammalleri Gionta and Gomez went upstaires at the end of the year meetings and sat down with Gautier and Ganiey and said they never want to play with Andrei or sergei again... when your best players say that you should listen i think
Pasty |
| MrBoogedy |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 23:49:17
I don't think having his brother no longer there will effect his game either which way. He's a lazy player who ever so rarely shows moments of brilliance, but those moments are too few and far between. i can't see any other team in the league wanting to waste their time with him, but it sure would be great if they could dump his contract and pick up gagne. That would be about the only chance they'd have at being above a sub-par team this year. |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 22:06:39
Gagne could be had for picks/prospects alone, for any team I think. PHI just needs his contract off the books, they have a lot of forwards for next year.
Patsy, how do you think AK will do next year without his brother? VAN fans always worried about the Sedin's being apart for a long time and whether play of one would be affected - although we put that worry mostly to bed last year. Do you think the Kostitsyn's have the same sort of chemistry together, or do you think Andrei will be better next year without his bro? |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:43:49
quote:
[i]Originally posted by redneck76ca[/i]
[br]I think that the Habs are done. They will likely give AK 46 another shot on the top two lines and then make a decision on his future at the trade deadline. He can be a 30 goal scorer for the Habs if he can rekindle his chemistry with Plekanec.
I don't know anyone on this site personnaly and i would take anyone of you ahead of AK 46 if you would just put in a constant effort every night,, Give me hlfk of the gifts he was given and i would be a 60 point player in the nhl for 20 years
Pasty |
| redneck76ca |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:21:34
I think that the Habs are done. They will likely give AK 46 another shot on the top two lines and then make a decision on his future at the trade deadline. He can be a 30 goal scorer for the Habs if he can rekindle his chemistry with Plekanec.
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| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 12:23:28
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tiller33[/i]
[br]Spacek's problems are consitency when he is on he very effective. I've never liked Hamrlik since he was drafted by Tampa to be honest so adimittedly I'm biased.
According to capgeek.com Hamrlik's salary is $5.5 mil this year, thats an awful lot for a 4th D-man. I think you put Gill in the 3 hole rather than Spacek even Georges ahead of him. But i suppose for one year left bite the bullett and play/pay him.
What i meant was If he was at 4 million instead of 5.5 ,,, you are right he is well overpaid and it is what is killing us habbers,,
Pasty |
| Tiller33 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 11:59:16
Spacek's problems are consitency when he is on he very effective. I've never liked Hamrlik since he was drafted by Tampa to be honest so adimittedly I'm biased.
According to capgeek.com Hamrlik's salary is $5.5 mil this year, thats an awful lot for a 4th D-man. I think you put Gill in the 3 hole rather than Spacek even Georges ahead of him. But i suppose for one year left bite the bullett and play/pay him. |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 11:34:54
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Tiller33[/i]
[br]Leafs will in all Likihood bury Mr. Jeff Finger in the AHL, any Habs fans forsee Montreal doing the same with Hamrlik?
He was just awful last year in the playoffs and with young guys like Subban coming up and some arguably better options still available via free agency do you think Gauthier would consider moving him to the Bulldogs??
Naw i don't think so our biggest mistake was 3.8 for spacek hamirlik at a 4 million contract is a very good deal he is a very good d man imo,, plus his contract is up at the end of this year anyway, it could be just me but i have always liked Hamirlik and think he is better than most percieve
Pasty |
| Tiller33 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 11:27:51
Leafs will in all Likihood bury Mr. Jeff Finger in the AHL, any Habs fans forsee Montreal doing the same with Hamrlik?
He was just awful last year in the playoffs and with young guys like Subban coming up and some arguably better options still available via free agency do you think Gauthier would consider moving him to the Bulldogs?? |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 11:13:25
quote:
[i]Originally posted by slozo[/i]
[br]It wouldn't be a bad play to go for Gagne, but . . . who do you give to Philly for him? Because from your proposed line-up, you have gotten him for what I assume is only draft picks, and I don't think that would be enough . . . without at least a goalie prospect, I don't see it. Also, Gagne is a LW, same as Cammalleri (unless you wanted to switch Cammalleri to RW, not sure if he played there before).
Your Kostytsin trade sounds good though, I agree that he is one of those guys that need to leave Montreal if they want to improve.
I would add this for Montreal's list of needs:
A big, tough winger.
Boston is big and tough already, and added a big presence in Horton on top of that.
Toronto will have Komisarek healthy, and now have Phaneuf, and will likely add at least another big boy knowing Burke.
Ottawa lost Volchenkov, but is still pretty big, same as Buffalo on D.
Your back end isn't too soft, but your forwards are, and they are undersized . . . and it will catch up to Montreal eventually, I feel (although it didn't last year, even with Markov's injury)
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
well i think just maybe and Bob mckenzie said it this morning on the team 990 Draft picks may be enough seeing as though philly just wants his salary off the books... probably a first rounder a 3rd and a decent 3rd line prospect would do it,, not because of Gagne's value but because philly wants no salary back,,,,and because like you said,, im not one of those habs fans who has forgotton what Komisarek is and can do, we are small and we only have 4 true top six fowards and maybe 2 true top 3 forwards,, we have to improve on the top end,, and btw Cammalleri plays RW on the pp so i figure we could set him up their 5 on 5 as a shooter,, hell its what hes good at
Pasty |
| n/a |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 10:24:04
It wouldn't be a bad play to go for Gagne, but . . . who do you give to Philly for him? Because from your proposed line-up, you have gotten him for what I assume is only draft picks, and I don't think that would be enough . . . without at least a goalie prospect, I don't see it. Also, Gagne is a LW, same as Cammalleri (unless you wanted to switch Cammalleri to RW, not sure if he played there before).
Your Kostytsin trade sounds good though, I agree that he is one of those guys that need to leave Montreal if they want to improve.
I would add this for Montreal's list of needs:
A big, tough winger.
Boston is big and tough already, and added a big presence in Horton on top of that.
Toronto will have Komisarek healthy, and now have Phaneuf, and will likely add at least another big boy knowing Burke.
Ottawa lost Volchenkov, but is still pretty big, same as Buffalo on D.
Your back end isn't too soft, but your forwards are, and they are undersized . . . and it will catch up to Montreal eventually, I feel (although it didn't last year, even with Markov's injury)
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Pasty7 |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 10:05:34
quote:
[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]MTL has 4.7M in cap space left, to sign 3 more players. One of those will be Price, and he is the #1 thing to do. If you can get him at 1.5M, that leaves 3.2M to sign 2 more players.
PHI is trying to move Gagne to dump salary, so they won't take much in return. So MTL would be adding a (say) net 3M to their payroll by getting Gagne. Now they have to trade someone else to make room for the other player(s) they still have to sign.
So, who would you move out of MTL in order to make room for Gagne? And, it has to be someone that another team might want as well 
i said Kostitsyn... at 3.25 mil cap hit,,, and like i said i'd let him go for next to nothing like a 2nd round pick... that gives the habs 7.95 million in cap space plenty to make this move if it could happen
Pasty |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 09:44:17
MTL has 4.7M in cap space left, to sign 3 more players. One of those will be Price, and he is the #1 thing to do. If you can get him at 1.5M, that leaves 3.2M to sign 2 more players.
PHI is trying to move Gagne to dump salary, so they won't take much in return. So MTL would be adding a (say) net 3M to their payroll by getting Gagne. Now they have to trade someone else to make room for the other player(s) they still have to sign.
So, who would you move out of MTL in order to make room for Gagne? And, it has to be someone that another team might want as well |
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