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| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 08:22:51
Who, in the current NHL do you feel is the most hated, get under your skin, drive you crazy, player today? |
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| Alex116 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 20:23:39
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Originally posted by Utemin
#1 D-Bag Byfuglien he is dirty, a chirper, and a point scorer.... For the 3rd reason I have to respect him which ticks me off.
Any one happy im back?
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful
I'm not.  I don't consider him dirty myself and no "chirpier" than MANY others, including a few Canucks who he drove crazy with his success vs them, esp in the playoffs. I'd sooner describe him as HUGE, smart and effective!
Don't hate the guy cuz he was a Canucks killer! Give him the credit he deserves. Drove me crazy the past couple years but i gotta give him his due. |
| Utemin |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 17:45:04
#1 D-Bag Byfuglien he is dirty, a chirper, and a point scorer.... For the 3rd reason I have to respect him which ticks me off.
Any one happy im back?
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful |
| Det4TheCup |
Posted - 01/28/2011 : 08:25:06
Wait... Whats this, nobody picked "Homstrom" as most hated, WoW i thought for sure he'd be in the top 5...lol....Go Wings Go..
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| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/28/2011 : 03:05:23
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by ToXXiK1
Lame suspension, but 12 games is a hell of a lot more than Coli hands out these days.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke
Dunno, had some similarities to the Bertuzzi / Moore hit, aside from guys piling on afterwards don't ya think? Bert got a lot more than 12 games, maybe Coli learned his lesson? OR, maybe it's the typical, punish on the result of the injury, not the incident itself?
Alex, I did say lately........
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 19:40:05
Maybe he played a great game defending Mike Richards and he didn`t like it  , who knows. Diffrent breed of people ( not much respect ) in the league these days, players sure don`t like getting hit anymore, thats for sure.
One time a great body check was just a common thing going un-noticed, now its a social gathering of players. |
| MyTeamRules |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 13:17:05
Why is P.K Subban so hated? I know the coach hates him because he does not get along with him very well, but I believe I heard him and Carey Price get along very well.
”If you've only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It'll seem like forever. ” - Pat |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 13:11:34
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Originally posted by ToXXiK1
Lame suspension, but 12 games is a hell of a lot more than Coli hands out these days.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke
Dunno, had some similarities to the Bertuzzi / Moore hit, aside from guys piling on afterwards don't ya think? Bert got a lot more than 12 games, maybe Coli learned his lesson? OR, maybe it's the typical, punish on the result of the injury, not the incident itself? |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 07:09:38
Lame suspension, but 12 games is a hell of a lot more than Coli hands out these days.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| ryan93 |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 06:09:42
Beuke did end up returning from that incident, but he never fully recovered & suffered another concussion shortly there after & was forced into retirement. |
| n/a |
Posted - 01/27/2011 : 05:49:50
That hit on Beukeboom makes me sick to my stomach to watch it. He got suspended 12 games for that . . . . a totally marginal player, huge goon, takes out a real NHL player for the rest of his career (turned out to be, anyways) with a total non-hockey play, sucker punching from behind, and . . . he gets 12 games.
THAT is the legacy of Colin Campbell, right there. Brutal.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| ryan93 |
Posted - 01/26/2011 : 19:17:37
For me it was always Matt Johnson. Thankfully he retired before the lockout! This suckerpunched ended Jeff Beukeboom's career....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YM_8UgB8Qo |
| MyTeamRules |
Posted - 01/26/2011 : 18:50:07
I do not like Jordan Tootoo never have.
P.S Burrows is my favourite player 
”If you've only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It'll seem like forever. ” - Pat |
| n/a |
Posted - 01/18/2011 : 04:57:41
I voted Downie on this poll. My real vote goes to Bertuzzi.
I consider Avery such a "side-show Bob" that he doesn't really bring out any hate in me . . . and I think he does a lot of things from a purely psychological standpoint.
My real "hate" is for the players that have an utter disregard for any kind of moral code, and who try to end careers and badly injure others on non-hockey plays. And guys who have crossed the line so badly that they shouldn't be playing (when McSorely was playing, he was one of my most hated, for example).
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/18/2011 : 04:39:37
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Originally posted by Mario 66
Toxic another incident was game 2 of the 09 playoffs against the Habs Lucic delivered a dirty cross check to the face on Lapierre. For that sake alone i gladly take his name out of the running as he did the hockey world a favor by shutting Lapierre up for once.
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09' ? That would be 2 years apart..... but whatever floats your boat.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 16:58:37
thanks Alex, totally slipped. Yes, Steve Bernier. Although Jonathan Bernier would probably have some success playing with the Sedin's as well
I don't mind defending the Burr. Hate him all you like, its hard to argue with his performance with the Sedin's, period. |
| doublechamp7 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 16:17:22
I voted Avery, although Pronger is up there too, he is talented but I think he is overrated by the media( Glen Healy last year saying: Pronger here is fearlessly going into the corner against PATRICK KANE)
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| Mario 66 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 16:12:31
Toxic another incident was game 2 of the 09 playoffs against the Habs Lucic delivered a dirty cross check to the face on Lapierre. For that sake alone i gladly take his name out of the running as he did the hockey world a favor by shutting Lapierre up for once.
Lemieux owns Gretzky |
| Oilearl |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 15:48:55
Maxime Lapierre  |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 15:43:40
nuxfan......STEVE Bernier, not Jonathan!
As for sticking up for Burrows, i'm not gonna go there, this sort of debate / arguments been done and done to the point it's tired.  |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 14:47:54
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Typical Burrows argument, keep hanging your hat on last season. What's he on pace to do this season???
And I ask you this. Does a guy like a Torres or Samulsson not put up 30 goals if they actually got a shot to play the entire season with the Sedins???
There is not a player in the NHL today who received more inflated credit tha Burrows. Chemistry, bah! Give anyone a chance to play consistently with H+D Sedin and they do as well as Burrows.
Heck, a plyon with a stick taped to it will get as many goals and be a heck of a lot easier to cheer for.
Burrows is on pace for nearly the same number of points as last year, on a PPG basis. He missed the first 10 games of the season with injury, then took about ~5 games to get his feet/hands back... so in 30 games (in which he was effective) he has 9g/24pts. Goals are down right now, but Burrows is a guy that scores in bunches - I won't be surprised if he hits 30 goals this year despite missing the first 10 games.
Like I said before, the Canucks have tried several different forwards with the Sedin's over the last 3 years - Raymond, Glass, Samuelsson (last year while Daniel was injured), Taylor Pyatt, Jonathan Bernier, Torres (this year), even Rypien. Burrows is the only one that has consistently stuck with the twins, and has consistently produced.
Samuelsson played with Hank for 6 weeks last year, and had 7g/7a for 14 points in 18 games. He then had 23g/17a, 40pts in the other 55 games he played. Did he have a huge output on the top line compared to the rest of the season? Not really. He is the player that gets the most time with the Sedin's not named Burrows, but can't stick.
Torres....well, he's 3rd line thru and thru.
I think Burrows gets exactly the credit that he deserves. No one is under any illusions that he's a bonafide first line player on another team, and I would agree that without the Sedin's he's a second line player with some offensive upside and excellent defensive abilities.
But he has chemistry with 2 of the top 10 forwards in the NHL, and he uses it to the best of his advantage. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 13:30:51
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Originally posted by nuxfan
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Alex 'effin' Burrows. The guy is a d-bag in the truest sense of the word. He brings such an annoying style of game to the ice, it's hard to cheer for him even if you are a Canuck fan.
Actually, its pretty easy to cheer for Burrows, he's a fan favourite here.
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Burrows is a 2nd/3rd line player, getting 1st line minutes and playing with 2 of the top 10 offensive players in the game, and producing 2nd/3rd line numbers.
2nd line points at worst. 35g/65pt seasons from your 3rd line would be remarkable.
I'll grant you that he benefits a ton from playing with the Sedin's, but he earns his time with them. For whatever reason, they click. You can't hate him for that, can you?
Typical Burrows argument, keep hanging your hat on last season. What's he on pace to do this season???
And I ask you this. Does a guy like a Torres or Samulsson not put up 30 goals if they actually got a shot to play the entire season with the Sedins???
There is not a player in the NHL today who received more inflated credit tha Burrows. Chemistry, bah! Give anyone a chance to play consistently with H+D Sedin and they do as well as Burrows.
Heck, a plyon with a stick taped to it will get as many goals and be a heck of a lot easier to cheer for.  |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 13:07:07
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Alex 'effin' Burrows. The guy is a d-bag in the truest sense of the word. He brings such an annoying style of game to the ice, it's hard to cheer for him even if you are a Canuck fan.
Actually, its pretty easy to cheer for Burrows, he's a fan favourite here.
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Burrows is a 2nd/3rd line player, getting 1st line minutes and playing with 2 of the top 10 offensive players in the game, and producing 2nd/3rd line numbers.
2nd line points at worst. 35g/65pt seasons from your 3rd line would be remarkable.
I'll grant you that he benefits a ton from playing with the Sedin's, but he earns his time with them. For whatever reason, they click. You can't hate him for that, can you? |
| Sensfan101 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 12:29:21
Steve Downie for me. He's come along way in the last few years but still one of the dirtiest players in the N.H.L.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
| Mario 66 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 11:59:22
Gladly find you more incidents this evening when i get home from the office Toxic. I like Lucic as a player & his style not hating on him but if we are talking recently a sucker punch is the ultimate definition of a DB move. I simply said your boy as you are a bruins fan.
Lemieux owns Gretzky |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 11:25:09
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Originally posted by The Duke
Avery...no contest..complete moron
Toxx...i can`t agree with you on C.Orr, not just because i`m a leaf fan ....I watch about 75 for sure leaf games each year. I really can`t remember Orr inticing / fighting much weaker opponents, Pretty much every time he fights it is against the opposing team toughest player. Man does his fights involve hay makers on both sides. I`ve seen Orr with the opposing fighter down many times BUT NEVER hit him while he is down.
If you want to dislike a fighter who constantly picks weaker opponents....see Avery and C. Neil.
I don't pretend to watch a lot of Leaf games, but, i had seen one in particular where Orr went at a player (can't remember who) crosschecked him in the face, the player wouldn't fight (cuz he wasn't a fighter) Orr continued, crosschecked him in the head, almost put him in the bench, continued by dropping his gloves and throwing a couple before the crowd got there. Earned himself a whole lot of minutes and the game I believe as it cost a couple of PP goals.
As for Lucic, " MY BOY" as you say, you put up one reason? I don't recall him ever being called hated, getting under anyone's skin type of player. Can you back that up please? One punch all you got? Poll fixed just for you.
Duke, I never said he takes on weaker guys or that he hit anybody when they were down?? All I stated is I don't like him, period. That's my opinion, to which i'm entitled to. If you like him, that's ok to.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| Mario 66 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 11:14:46
Nuxfan i don't dispute Pronger is a douche but far to talented to be on a list with the likes of Colton Orr. I mean Pronger was better at 14 then this guy has ever been. Pronger has been fairly quiet on the DB metre since arriving in Phil. The only thing i can recall is stealing the puck from price earlier this yr but once price got it back he tossed it in the stands anyway. If this is indeed a recent poll then how are Ovechkin & Lucic not on here?
Lemieux owns Gretzky |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 10:54:39
Alex 'effin' Burrows. The guy is a d-bag in the truest sense of the word. He brings such an annoying style of game to the ice, it's hard to cheer for him even if you are a Canuck fan. He is the kind of guy that brings shame to an organization. Much like Avery does who would be my 2nd choice. However, the difference between the two is that Avery is a 2nd/3rd line player, getting 2nd/3rd line minutes, and producing 2nd/3rd line numbers.
Burrows is a 2nd/3rd line player, getting 1st line minutes and playing with 2 of the top 10 offensive players in the game, and producing 2nd/3rd line numbers.
Burrows sucks. |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 10:52:17
Avery...no contest..complete moron
Toxx...i can`t agree with you on C.Orr, not just because i`m a leaf fan ....I watch about 75 for sure leaf games each year. I really can`t remember Orr inticing / fighting much weaker opponents, Pretty much every time he fights it is against the opposing team toughest player. Man does his fights involve hay makers on both sides. I`ve seen Orr with the opposing fighter down many times BUT NEVER hit him while he is down.
If you want to dislike a fighter who constantly picks weaker opponents....see Avery and C. Neil.
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| Guest0750 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 10:42:33
the twins, i've hated them since the start, one of many reasons i'm not a vancouver fan, |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 10:42:06
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A proven winner and arguably one of the better dman ever.
And, a bit of a douche. He belongs on the list, but is unique in that along with having dirty tendencies is also an extremely talented player. |
| Mario 66 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 10:39:41
Thanks toxik I can read and if you read correctly i clearly indicate pronger's dirty tendencies. But to put Pronger on a list with Avery, Orr, Lapierre, Cooke and alot of players that dont even belong on the ice with him is kind of a slap in the face to a player of his calibre. If we are talking recently and regardless of a players talents where is your boy Lucic "sucker punches" usually give you a bad rap, or more so then pronger the last two yrs where is Mr. Ovechkin???
Guest if you read the message carefully and correctly you would see i said most of the guys on the list not all. Subban will be a good player and burrows is a quality nhl player but neither could carry Pronger's jock if their lives depended on. A proven winner and arguably one of the better dman ever.
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| TheRC |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 10:27:37
At least Orr does what he does in the game and leaves it at that. Avery is a bastard ALL THE TIME. You hate players like Orr when they play against your team. You hate Avery every time you see a clip of him.
"If at first you don't succeed, you fail" |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 09:20:55
Avery. I only see him once a year, and he pisses me pretty much as soon as the puck drops. |
| Guest4748 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 09:09:12
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Originally posted by Mario 66
This list is filled with a lot of guys talent wise who do not even deserve to be in the nhl but they all do what they are brought in the league to do well. I had to go with Avery just because he is the most classless individual out of the bunch and most hated by his peers.
Pronger is far to talented to be a part of this list and his hits although can be real dirty at times atleast take place in the flow of the game. A lot of the goons on this list slow down the game and go out of there way to take someone out and routinely make dumb hockey decisions.
Lemieux owns Gretzky
Like PK Subban doesn't have talent and don't deserve to be in the NHL...psssh, bs. |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 09:07:11
Pronger isn't there because he can't play hockey, he's there for his antics that drive players and fans nuts, hence the title:
Poll Question:
Who, in the current NHL do you feel is the most hated, get under your skin, drive you crazy, player today?
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| Mario 66 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 08:41:33
This list is filled with a lot of guys talent wise who do not even deserve to be in the nhl but they all do what they are brought in the league to do well. I had to go with Avery just because he is the most classless individual out of the bunch and most hated by his peers.
Pronger is far to talented to be a part of this list and his hits although can be real dirty at times atleast take place in the flow of the game. A lot of the goons on this list slow down the game and go out of there way to take someone out and routinely make dumb hockey decisions.
Lemieux owns Gretzky |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 01/17/2011 : 08:27:59
I chose Colton Orr for a couple of reasons.
1. He's only in the game for one reason, because he can't play hockey, and that's just to try and hurt people.
2. I'm not even sure there's a market in today's game for such a player.
3. I just don't like him, he's a freekin' psycho !
4. He doesn't help his team AT ALL, from what i've seen, gets to carried away and ends up in the box, usually longer than his opponants.
5. Has a habit of running people and picking fights with those who don't.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
