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irvine
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  15:17:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not 100% on the Kovy deal, but I believe the cap hit will be around $5.9/$6.0M. Which to me, is excellent.

If you can get a guy like Kovalchuk, at that cap hit you're doing very well. It frees up needed space to build around your top 3-6.

I believe the deal pays $101M for 17 years, or $100M for 17 years. Which is an average around $5.9-$5.8M per season.

Looks good to me. And if Kovalchuk slows down in the later years, you can move him at that cap hit. Also, once over 35 he can retire and the cap hit leaves the books completely.

I think NJ has this covered pretty well.

Irvine/prez.
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irvine
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  15:18:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, TBL picking up Simon Gagne is a good move.

Stamkos, St Luis, Lecavlier, Gagne & Downie... not bad up front.

Irvine/prez.
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leafsfan_101
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  15:54:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Beans15[/i]
[br]I think that us arm-chair guys are forgetting who we are talking about here. He is Lou friggin Lamoriello!! This guy has 9 division winners, 4 conference winners, and 3 Cup to his name. He has done nothing but win for 20 years. It always seems that each year people discount the Devils before training camp. Then, around training camp people start saying, "Don't forget about the Devils," and by the trade deadline people are saying, "Look out for the Devils."

Look at the list of players that have come and gone from the Devils in the past 20 years. That list is chalked full of HOFer's.


With the exception of maybe Ken Holland(and that's a big maybe) there is no one in the game of hockey today with better vision or ability than Lamoriello. He will get it done and it won't be long until you and I are saying, 'Wow, that's pretty good."


Beans, that is true, we cannot count out Lamoriello until the very end. But with this Kovalchuk signing he does seem to have a predicament, not as bad as Chicago, per se, but still a difficult situation. It will be interesting to see the moves he pulls off.

BTW, has anyone noticed how badly Eklund is. For the past week, at least, he has not mentioned Kovy to NJ or Gagne to TB ONCE, instead linking both to LA. His rumours accuracy rate looks to be extremely low, I have only seen him predict one correct signing (Lebda to Toronto). Besides the Lebda thing, the only thing he has done is break the Gagne story two hours before TSN did. Other than that, he has been pretty awful.
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  16:15:02  Reply with Quote
give eklund a break , if u dont like his rumours dont view them simple as that , holy s*** it seems like everybody on this website just bitches about everything, jeez man the f*** up
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Tiller33
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  16:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by leafsfan_101[/i]
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Beans15[/i]
[br]I think that us arm-chair guys are forgetting who we are talking about here. He is Lou friggin Lamoriello!! This guy has 9 division winners, 4 conference winners, and 3 Cup to his name. He has done nothing but win for 20 years. It always seems that each year people discount the Devils before training camp. Then, around training camp people start saying, "Don't forget about the Devils," and by the trade deadline people are saying, "Look out for the Devils."

Look at the list of players that have come and gone from the Devils in the past 20 years. That list is chalked full of HOFer's.


With the exception of maybe Ken Holland(and that's a big maybe) there is no one in the game of hockey today with better vision or ability than Lamoriello. He will get it done and it won't be long until you and I are saying, 'Wow, that's pretty good."


Beans, that is true, we cannot count out Lamoriello until the very end. But with this Kovalchuk signing he does seem to have a predicament, not as bad as Chicago, per se, but still a difficult situation. It will be interesting to see the moves he pulls off.

BTW, has anyone noticed how badly Eklund is. For the past week, at least, he has not mentioned Kovy to NJ or Gagne to TB ONCE, instead linking both to LA. His rumours accuracy rate looks to be extremely low, I have only seen him predict one correct signing (Lebda to Toronto). Besides the Lebda thing, the only thing he has done is break the Gagne story two hours before TSN did. Other than that, he has been pretty awful.



But hey the website gets a hell of a lot of hits right? lol

He was pretty off on Kovy but in all fairness there were alot of other more prominent people (Millard, Kypreos to name a few) that blew it too. There was a minor mention that Tampa was interested in Gagne but he did make it sound like Gagne was LA's for sure fall back guy.

Let the Kaberle sweeps begin haha
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  16:59:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
on the Canucks forum, any rumor from Eklund alone is instantly deleted. Unreliable as hell - almost as bad as Jumbo Joe throwing a bunch of names together

Capgeek as officially updated the NJD page with a cap hit of 6M for Kovy, thru to the year 2027! So that would be a 17yr/102M deal. Lou looks genius right now.

NJD are currently 1.8M over the cap for this coming year, which is easily handled by dumping Zubrus alone. So, they field a team with Elias/Kovy/Rolston/Arnott/Zajac/Parise up front (in no particular order), a very solid defensive lineup, and Brodeur in net. Holy cup run batman!

It does get interesting next year however, with Parise up. Arnott and Langenbrunner are both UFA next year, and will likely be done there, which would free up enough money to sign Parise at 6-7M.
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Tiller33
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  17:12:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The report on TSN said if Kovalchuck were to hit all the bonuses in the later years of the contract he will make $250 million total over the 17 years .... so my prediction is that around age 37-38 Ilya Rodriguez will walk to the KHL (if it still exists).
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/19/2010 :  19:03:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As posted on a different thread, here is what TSN had to say.

Kovalchuk will earn $6 million each of the next two seasons, $11.5 million for the following five seasons, $10.5 million in the 2017-18 season, $8.5 million for the 2018-19 season, $6.5 million in 2019-20, $3.5 million in 2020-21, $750,000 the following season, and $550,000 for the final five years of the unprecedented deal.

Seriously, this contract is genius. Realistically, Lou might have the chance to have 2 legitimate 40 goal scorers in NJ for the next decade.

Pretty nice cornerstone to build around. Although, by that time Brodeur will be almost 50. I bet he will only be able to play around 60 games a year by that point.
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Posted - 07/20/2010 :  05:36:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Simon Gagne for almost nothing, in my mind, is an amazing deal for the TB Lightning.

St.Louis - Stamkos - Gagne looks to be one of the top lines in the NHL if Stamkos plays like he did last year and if Marty keeps chugging along and if Simone stays healthy. Gagne is always a threat to score thirty goals, and who knows how much more if he clicks with those two. And if not, no worries, Lecavalier plays on the second line . . .

Lightning grabbed Brett Clark a while back as well, and they seem to be rounding out their club quite nicely - it'll be an improved team I think this coming year (although I said that last year).

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Beans15
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Posted - 07/20/2010 :  10:37:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was listening to the radio this AM and a fella was saying that Philly fans are not happy about this deal because, as Slozo said, it's really Gagne for nothing.

And if you are going to trade for nothing to dump salary, why pick up another defensemen when you already have 7 under contract??

I think Gagne could have fetched a higher value and I completely agree that TB made a steal with this deal.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/20/2010 :  12:05:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cedrick Desjardins and Ryan russel re-sign in Montreal.

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irvine
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  03:53:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why would Philly fans be happy about the trade. It's terrible.

Yes, they have effectively dumped salary. +1.

But, at the end of the day you must figure a team was willing to offer slightly more for Gagne's services. I mean, really.

No team was willing to give a 3rd Rd pick and a solid forward prospect for a 30 Goal scorer in the NHL? One who, is often injured. He is still effective.

I mean, why take a d-man? Really? You already have a strong defensive core. They are solid on all 6. Why add another... it makes absolutely no sense.

They effectively received a 3rd round pick for a 30 goal scorer. Great work Stevie Y.

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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  07:30:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Philly fans - ask your GM why he didn't call Burke, because I can guarantee you there would have been more coming back to your club if Toronto had gotten Gagne, and it wouldn't have had to be a d-man which you don't need! lol

I'd deal a player who has at least played and shown some promise as an NHLer (say, Mitchell or Sjostrom) AND a minors prospect for Gagne . . .

As a Leaf fan, I am almost feeling angry about the missed opportunity to get a player of Gagne's ability for so cheap!

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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  09:09:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Or, you could look at it from the other angle - that the pick was the only thing being dangled for Gagne, and PHI took the best deal that they could get in exchange for dumping a salary they cannot afford. GM's are professionals, and they all know what they're doing. Do you think if PHI could have gotten a better deal for Gagne that they would have taken it?

Slozo - PHI literally could take nearly no salary in return. After the Gagne move, they are 1M under the cap. So dangling roster players to them does no good, unless you're talking about a larger deal - so that leaves draft picks and prospects. TOR has no draft picks of note, and they're probably not willing to trade away the few that they do have left. Prospects they have, but perhaps Burke wasn't willing to part with any of them? I am confident that PHI talked to TOR about Gagne, so if he didn't end up there then there was no deal to be had.

Edit - I had forgotten that Walker was part of that deal, a dman @ 1.7M - so they did take a spare part in return. They did need (or want) 1 other dman in return, but not a Kaberle-style dman. I wonder if they talked to TOR about Aulie?

Edited by - nuxfan on 07/21/2010 09:30:47
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  09:32:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, for the record - I think we'll be devoting a few pages to the PHI cap situation this time next year. They look like a CHI in the making, currently only 13M to sign 8 players, 2 of which are Jeff Carter and Claude Giroux
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  09:54:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nuxfan - my proposed deal included a player making the league minimum - under a million dollars - plus a prospect that would be playing in their farm system. So no, that does not and would not put Philly over the cap.

And I very strongly disagree about ALL GMs knowing what they are doing and "being proffessionals" . . . that actually made me laugh out loud.

I can guarantee Burke would have taken Gagne at the price offered, so I can almost assuredly guarantee that no, Burke was not talked to about Gagne after getting the TB offer. I can think of about a dozen other GMs I am sure that have the same opinion as I about this!

GMs make retarded, bonehead moves all the time - even ones that armchair pundits like you or I could easily avoid and do a much better deal.

This is one of those deals.

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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  10:05:59  Reply with Quote
Gagne had a NTC and probably wanted to play with his friends (Lecavalier and St-Louis). So Yzerman, as a great GM, took the opportunity to get Gagne for nothing.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  10:22:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

nuxfan - my proposed deal included a player making the league minimum - under a million dollars - plus a prospect that would be playing in their farm system. So no, that does not and would not put Philly over the cap.

And I very strongly disagree about ALL GMs knowing what they are doing and "being proffessionals" . . . that actually made me laugh out loud.

I can guarantee Burke would have taken Gagne at the price offered, so I can almost assuredly guarantee that no, Burke was not talked to about Gagne after getting the TB offer. I can think of about a dozen other GMs I am sure that have the same opinion as I about this!

GMs make retarded, bonehead moves all the time - even ones that armchair pundits like you or I could easily avoid and do a much better deal.



There are all kinds of reasons why a deal with TOR would not have worked for Gagne. PHI looks like they were looking to add a dman to their roster at sub-2M, TOR has none of those that they would be willing to move. TOR has 1M in cap space, so any trade involving adding 5M in salary would require them to move someone else the other way (or have something else planned) - Gagne was mostly a salary dump by PHI, and TOR doesn't have the room to add him.

Why would you think that PHI would not want to get as much value for Gagne as possible for their own team? Do you think that Holmgren would specifically not talk to other GM's if he felt they had something that they could offer? Gagne has been on the chopping block for more than a week now - hell, if TSN is reporting it you know that Burke must have heard about it before then. If Burke was interested in Gagne, do you think that Burke would have reached out to Holmgren in order to find out what it would take to get Gagne? You seriously don't think that they had a conversation about Gagne's availability?

These guys runs a multi-million dollar businesses, and gets paid millions to run it correctly. You can armchair GM all you like, but at the end of the day, you have to figure that the guy in charge knows what he's doing and made the best decision he could make at the time he made it - even if you don't agree with it or don't like it because your team didn't get Gagne.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  10:47:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
and yes, as guest mentioned above - Gagne had a NTC, perhaps he was not willing to waive it to go to TOR. Perhaps the only team he was willing to waive it for was TB - its his right to do so.

Holmgren almost certainly made the best deal he could at the time, given the circumstances.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  12:15:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you know how in knew Gagne was to end up in TB Steveie Y, i am almost sure Steve Yzerman called up Gagne and his agent and said "use your no trade clause and come play here in Tampa for me" and you know why Gagne did just that? Yzerman and him are good buddies,,, remember way back at the offseason camp for team Canada, Gagne got hurt a small groin issue, well apparently according to Tony Marrinarro of the team 990 (he is more often than not bang on) Gagne wanted to stay to earn a spot on the team, and Yzerman said to him you are one of 5 players i have penciled in already go home and rest, in the end Gagne ended up being hurt most of the year and therefore didn't play for team Canada, but that shows Steveie Y is a huge Gagne fan,, and if i'm Gagne why wouldn't i want to play for a GM who thinks i'm a top 5 player in Canada?

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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  12:33:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
apparently Clark Macarthur Got 2.4 million in arbitration and Atlanta is walking away so he will be a ufa,, at 25 he has put up respectable numbers,, he should find a home.....

according to the montreal gazzette

http://habsinsideout.com/

Pasty
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  13:21:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
STL resigned David Perron, 2yr/4.3M. For a 22 year old that put up nearly 50 points last year, thats good value.

OTT resigned Foligno, terms unknown. BUF resigned Kaleta to a 2 year deal to avoid arbitration - club-elected arbitration no less
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  13:24:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm a little surprised by the ATL move in not keeping him. They have loads of space, you're right his numbers were not bad, and its not like other forwards are beating down the door to play in ATL.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  13:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]I'm a little surprised by the ATL move in not keeping him. They have loads of space, you're right his numbers were not bad, and its not like other forwards are beating down the door to play in ATL.



yeah i'm a little confused by this one too,, granted the price tag was a little high i mean Perron as you just mentioned is about the same and there is a difference in these two players current numbers favoring perron and upside again favoring perron

Pasty
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Tiller33
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  14:30:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by slozo[/i]
[br]nuxfan - my proposed deal included a player making the league minimum - under a million dollars - plus a prospect that would be playing in their farm system. So no, that does not and would not put Philly over the cap.

And I very strongly disagree about ALL GMs knowing what they are doing and "being proffessionals" . . . that actually made me laugh out loud.

I can guarantee Burke would have taken Gagne at the price offered, so I can almost assuredly guarantee that no, Burke was not talked to about Gagne after getting the TB offer. I can think of about a dozen other GMs I am sure that have the same opinion as I about this!

GMs make retarded, bonehead moves all the time - even ones that armchair pundits like you or I could easily avoid and do a much better deal.

This is one of those deals.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug



Fan590 said that after Philly granted other teams permission to talk to him and talking to Yzerman he told Holmgren he would only waive to go to Tampa. Likely for all the reasons stated about... And being on a line with Stamkos doesn't hurt going into a UFA year.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  14:32:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
NYR has benn offered Justin Williams,Colten Teubert and a farm player for their star Mairian Gaborik.

Justin Williams and Jarret Stoll on their way out of L.A.

The Columbus Blue Jackets are close to siging Ryan Johnson to a one year $850,000-$900,000 contract

Karlis Skrastins could very well be headed to Europe.

Tomas Kaberle is San Jose's main target this off season, SJ could go as far as willing to trade Devin Setoguchi or Ryane Clowe for the Vet.

If price for Kaberle is too high Sharks will likely sign Grebeshkov.

Mike Modano to make decision in August.Possible teams he could be heading to are Detroit,Minnesota and San Jose.

GO SHARKS GO
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  18:04:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Paul Holgrem is not yet done with adding too much D,He has said he will trade James Van Riemsdyke to a team that will offer him a 1st or 2nd round pick and a big solid aggresive defenseman.I would like to see him go to SJ for Murray and a 1st round pick.

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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  18:16:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
all of the above stated on hf boards or something like that ,, just checked tsn and sports net no mention of any of any of this so again

Pasty
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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  18:17:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
[br]Paul Holgrem is not yet done with adding too much D,He has said he will trade James Van Riemsdyke to a team that will offer him a 1st or 2nd round pick and a big solid aggresive defenseman.I would like to see him go to SJ for Murray and a 1st round pick.

GO SHARKS GO



yep there is always a chance sj will pick up whoever you think is available

Pasty
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/21/2010 :  20:11:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Paul Holgrem is not yet done with adding too much D,He has said he will trade James Van Riemsdyke to a team that will offer him a 1st or 2nd round pick and a big solid aggresive defenseman.I would like to see him go to SJ for Murray and a 1st round pick.



quote:

NYR has benn offered Justin Williams,Colten Teubert and a farm player for their star Mairian Gaborik.



Joe. Seriously... Get off the internet for a little bit
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irvine
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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  03:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay, i'm going to address this.

To Joe:

Please stop with posting about every free agent (and every non-free agent), that has a glimmer of skill, being suggested to be going to San Jose. Honest, it's even starting to get me.

So far, you have San Jose listed for every free agent going. And, a ton of trades involving San Jose. Yet, we've seen none of them happen. None.

To Others, including Pasty:

This is a bit of a rumor topic. It is for official signings, and for suggestions of ones that could come in the next coming days. So, if somebody posts something that *might* be, don't get upset because the source is not TSN or NHL.com.

It's just his thought of what he would like to see. No need to get upset about it.

--

So, that being said. Joe, please try to limit the number of 'rumors' you post. Don't just post anything you happen to come across. Try to pick the ones that actually make some sense. And, we can all discuss those.

To everyone not named Joe... try not to jump on the guy. He's clearly a big Sharks fan. No need to get upset, just because he posts some trades or rumors. It's part of being on a forum. We're here to discuss all aspects of hockey. No matter how far fetched it may be.



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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  04:39:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Absolutely well said irvine, you did my moderator job for me there . . . perfectly stated on all fronts.

nuxfan - my bad, I did forget about Gagne's no-trade clause, and of course that is a huge mitigating factor in him going to TB and the price being very low . . . Philly was handcuffed, and because TB knew that, they took full advantage of it. There are no friends when you are trying to squeeze out the best deal for your club, and if there was ever an indication of how good a GM Stevie Y might be, this is it - and he passed with flying colours. To tell you the truth, I am surprised, knowing how close he is with many current players, and how little removed he is from the current scene . . . but kudos to him for being a 'shark' when he needed to be in scooping Gagne.

Fantastic signing by St.Louis to get Perron, would love that guy on my team. I wonder though, speaking of the Blues, if Backes is available in a trade? He had a very off year, and I think he could be available for the right price . . . but this is just off the top of my head.

At any rate, obviously, both Backes and Perron are probably heading to San Jose at some point

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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  07:23:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Atlanta inks Pavelec to a two year deal

I just put this up here because it involves hockey.Man calls 911 numerous times demanding Jets return to Winnipeg,

Powe re-signed for 1 year.

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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  07:27:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Senators sign Quebec League MVP Mike Hoffman

Ducks sign blueliner Syvret

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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  07:32:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Fantastic signing by St.Louis to get Perron, would love that guy on my team. I wonder though, speaking of the Blues, if Backes is available in a trade? He had a very off year, and I think he could be available for the right price . . . but this is just off the top of my head.

At any rate, obviously, both Backes and Perron are probably heading to San Jose at some point



Backes has been heavily coveted by VAN for a couple of years now. They presented him with an offer sheet a couple of years ago, that STL matched (and then retaliated with an offer sheet for Bernier, which VAN matched), and there were rumours that they were trying to acquire him at the trade deadline last year.

I don't think that STL is ready to get rid of him yet - as you say, one bad year. He's only 26, and is a monster with a lot of upside. He has one more year @ 2.5M, and then is UFA. I think STL will try to resign him, they see him as part of a very promising young core.

If he has another off year in STL, who knows.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  07:59:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the team 990 radio today was talking with a guest (whom i mist his name because i'm in and out of the truck at work) anyway they were discussing what Boston is to do with Blake Wheeler, apparently his abritration hearing is next week, and boston has a little over 12 000 in cap space, meaning they are going to have to let Wheeler go , or make another move to fit Wheeler in, At 23 years old 6ft 5 and 205 lbs with all the offensive upside this guy has it would be a huge loss to the young strong core of the Bruins, but he would most deffinetly draw intrest from other clubs,, he also strikes me as the ideal Burke type player,, granted the Bruins will not want slary back for him,, i'd take him on my habs anyday of the week he would help raise the average height of our first line if anything

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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  09:14:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Patsy, my mother would raise the avg height of MTL's top line

Yeah, Wheeler is another one that would be nice to have. I don't see enough of him to have a solid opinion, but he sounds like he has all the makings of a power forward. One thing I like about Backes is he plays a very physical game, he can be punishing - as well as soft hands. Does Wheeler play that way too?
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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  09:26:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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[br]Patsy, my mother would raise the avg height of MTL's top line





Best PUH quote of the year. This kind of thing makes me not want to look at this site at work because the co-workers think I am crazy when I am laughing at my computer.


Well done!!
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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  10:29:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wheeler is far less physical than a player like Backes, but he has the same goal scoring potential. The thing about Wheeler is that as tall as he is (6'5" I believe) he is damn fast, and he has very good puck handling skills from what I can see. On the Bruins, they leave themanhandling and hitting to guys like Krejci.

Wheeler had a poor second year scoring only 18 goals, but everyone on the Bruins had a poor year offensively it seems, so it didn't stand out. IMHO, he's definitely got a few 30 goal seasons in him, especially as he fills out in that big frame of his.

And yeah, I think most teams would grab him in a second, but he's not going anywhere - reports are that Neely, now the club president, really likes him, so odds are cap room would be created to fit him in.

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Posted - 07/22/2010 :  11:11:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Paul Holgrem is not yet done with adding too much D,He has said he will trade James Van Riemsdyke to a team that will offer him a 1st or 2nd round pick and a big solid aggresive defenseman.I would like to see him go to SJ for Murray and a 1st round pick.



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NYR has benn offered Justin Williams,Colten Teubert and a farm player for their star Mairian Gaborik.



Joe. Seriously... Get off the internet for a little bit



Actually Nuxfan that trade involving Gaborik is true,NHL sources say has it on their website and on Twitter

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