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nuxfan
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 Posted - 08/06/2010 : 16:09:55
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Beans - it is nearly impossible to compare the upcoming year's Oilers defense with the Canucks - both have enough significant different pieces that played last year in a different environment, I'm not sure if any comparison would be worthwhile. I do see, looking back, that you were trying to throw this upcoming year's EDM defense into the mix, which I didn't notice before. I had thought you were asserting that last year's EDM was comparable to last year's VAN, hence my amusement.
FWIW, I think they're all potentially even during the summer - we'll see where we are in December. |
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 19:17:39
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Originally posted by Pasty7
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Originally posted by slozo
Stajan won't surprise, and Iginla will never get even a sniff of 100 points again. Maybe 80, but that's a stretch at this point, considering who his linemates are.
Calgary finishes out, this is my final verdict barring a trade of importance.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
care to put a friendly wager on Iginla, i am prepared to bet Iggy tops 35 golas this year and is at least 5 points over a point per game,,, if you wanna take me up on that i'll let you choose the stakes
Pasty
You're on Pasty. There could still be some trade for a talented linemate at this point, but conversely, there could also be an injury to Iggy, so I think the chances of both are a saw-off.
So - you say Iginla gets 36 goals or more; and is at least a point per game plus 5 points or greater (76 games played for example would require 81 points for you to win). Two points.
Hmm . . . but I'd rather just make it one, so I will let you choose, and then we can draw up terms. 
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 19:21:10
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With today's signing of Gerber, I think the Oilers are aiming to finish close to the playoff hunt.
(Or at least leave themselves someone to teach Dubnyk or Deslauriers if Khabibulin is in the courts or injured) |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 09:56:16
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Originally posted by slozo
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Originally posted by Pasty7
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Originally posted by slozo
Stajan won't surprise, and Iginla will never get even a sniff of 100 points again. Maybe 80, but that's a stretch at this point, considering who his linemates are.
Calgary finishes out, this is my final verdict barring a trade of importance.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
care to put a friendly wager on Iginla, i am prepared to bet Iggy tops 35 golas this year and is at least 5 points over a point per game,,, if you wanna take me up on that i'll let you choose the stakes
Pasty
You're on Pasty. There could still be some trade for a talented linemate at this point, but conversely, there could also be an injury to Iggy, so I think the chances of both are a saw-off.
So - you say Iginla gets 36 goals or more; and is at least a point per game plus 5 points or greater (76 games played for example would require 81 points for you to win). Two points.
Hmm . . . but I'd rather just make it one, so I will let you choose, and then we can draw up terms.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
i will go with plus 36 goals because you re right it would get complicated if he scores 38 goals say but only finish`s with say 69 points ,,,
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Alex116
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 16:16:19
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Originally posted by Pasty7
[i will go with plus 36 goals because you re right it would get complicated if he scores 38 goals say but only finish`s with say 69 points ,,,
Pasty
Not my bet but you could do it that he has to do both or the bet is void? Or, if he does one (or doesn't) there's a winner, but if he does or doesn't do both, the stakes are higher???
Just stirring the pot of course..... |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 17:55:01
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Originally posted by polishexpress
With today's signing of Gerber, I think the Oilers are aiming to finish close to the playoff hunt.
(Or at least leave themselves someone to teach Dubnyk or Deslauriers if Khabibulin is in the courts or injured)
How does Gerber, a guy who has not played in the NHL for a season and hasn't really played well anywhere since he was pulled in favor of Cam Ward in 06 mean the Oilers are going for the playoffs??
As I said. This is a 2 way deal. The only way that Gerber sees the Oiler's net is if Khabibulin is in jail.
And Nuxfan, you are right. All defenses are equal in August. However, we can rate them on paper. We'll talk again in December. That being said, it will still be tough to compare as Vancouver has it in spades over Edmonton in the forward department and goaltending. |
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irvine
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 19:37:26
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I'm not 100% on Canada-US border laws, but I recall something people with criminal records (of any type), not being able to cross borders these days.
If the case, mr. Khabibulin may be prolonged in even being able to come back to Canada, to play in Edmonton. Or, returning to and from for US-Canada games.
Where they use private jets, things may be a bit different, i'm unsure.
But, I thought those with criminal records, were unable to cross between countries. Especially, if he does not have US-Canada dual citizenship.
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 21:15:24
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Originally posted by irvine
I'm not 100% on Canada-US border laws, but I recall something people with criminal records (of any type), not being able to cross borders these days.
If the case, mr. Khabibulin may be prolonged in even being able to come back to Canada, to play in Edmonton. Or, returning to and from for US-Canada games.
Where they use private jets, things may be a bit different, i'm unsure.
But, I thought those with criminal records, were unable to cross between countries. Especially, if he does not have US-Canada dual citizenship.
Irvine/prez.
I think the legal system will more more swiftly on things like that for the uber rich and powerful than us normal schleps. At the end of the day, impaired driving is not a significant risk to national security. He would more than likely get the ability to cross the border after his jail time is served.
However, that is IF his jail time is served. As a first time offender, it is also likely that he pleas down or gets a stayed sentence. |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 23:44:13
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Originally posted by irvine
I'm not 100% on Canada-US border laws, but I recall something people with criminal records (of any type), not being able to cross borders these days.
If the case, mr. Khabibulin may be prolonged in even being able to come back to Canada, to play in Edmonton. Or, returning to and from for US-Canada games.
Where they use private jets, things may be a bit different, i'm unsure.
But, I thought those with criminal records, were unable to cross between countries. Especially, if he does not have US-Canada dual citizenship.
Irvine/prez.
i am 100% sure of the laws between Canada and the U.S espcially entry to Canada its my job to know and a D.U.I or a D.W.i in the U.S is considerd a Criminal offence in Canada and means ,, providing you are not a Canadian citizen you can no longer enter the country,, that being said on countless occaisions we allow entry to Bands athletes and celebrity's entry to Canada even though they have records on special immgration permits,, the kind a regular joe like you or i could get but would be a waste of money,,, the deal is you pay a lot for your permitt and you get the $$ back when you leave the country... but in khabibulins case an exception will be found,,
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irvine
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 23:59:58
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Okay, so here are my predictions for who will do well. (Compared only to how they did this past season).
I will only focus on teams who missed last years playoffs. As, the teams who did make it, did well enough last year as is.
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St. Luis Blues -- Finished 9th last season in the West, with 90 Pts. Tied with the Calgary Flames. 5 Pts out of 8th.
The Blues are another year older, and are a team filled with some solid youth and good depth veterans added to the mix. Jaroslav Halak played well last season for Montreal, especially during the playoffs. Halak just has to play his game. He does not have to play like he did in the playoffs, just as well as the regular season and St. Luis will be successful this year. If Halak does play the season as he did in the playoffs, then look out. St. Luis could be a force.
Final verdict: 7th in the West -- 98-102 Points.
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Anaheim Ducks -- Finished 11th in the West last season, with 89 Points. 6 Points out of 8th.
The Ducks to me, have a lot of the pieces in place to make the post-season. In fact, I'm kind of unsure how they missed them last year.
A big lose is of course Neidermayer. But, with the aging Nieds out it has opened room for the Ducks to add a younger replacement (not as good, of course), and use the extra space to fill in another hole or to re-sign a key guy like B. Ryan.
Selanne has agreed to re-sign, which is good news for the Ducks. Also, if they do acquire Kariya this off-season, I see this as another positive.
The Ducks have solid youth up front in Perry, Getzlaff & Ryan, along with others. And, veterans like Selanne & Karia will help round experienced yet still offensive threats at 2nd/3rd line positions.
Final Verdict: 6th in West. 100-104 Pts.
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Now, the top 1-5 will remain roughly the same for me. The only exception to drop, likely, being the Coyotes. So, likely we will only see one change in the top 5.
But, battling for the 8th seed when it's all said and done to me will be:
Calgary, Nashville & Phoenix. Maybe even, Colorado. We'll see.
So Ducks sliding up to 6th, Blues to 7th.
Ducks, Nashville or Blues could fill that top 5 slot left open by the Coyotes, but we'll see.
Calgary, Nashville & Phoenix battle for 8th, with Nashville the likely taker.
In the East, I see... Tampa Bay improving quite a bit. They will battle and be close for 8th in the East, next to Montreal.
Thrashers, Rangers & Hurricanes could all surprise by a playoff push. But, for the most part, I don't see a huge change in the teams who make the playoffs.
I see only the 7th/8th seeds at jeopardy, and it will likely be Montreal dropping out of the mix with either Tampa or the Rangers taking their spot.
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redneck76ca
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 03:23:25
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 07:01:06
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Here are my predictions for the leafs,Sharks,Canadiens
Sharks
-Lost some key players in Malhotra,Nabokov and Blake.They also signed Jamal Mayers to replace key depth forward Jed Ortmeyer who had a career year with San Jose.And I also predict Clowe will be traded to Buffalo for Stafford and Butler.I also think they sign Antti Niemi.
I predict 5th in the West with 105 points.
Leafs
-Signed Armstrong,Mueller and Lebda.They have a stacked blue-line i think Kaberle will sign an extension.But I think Komisarek is done witht he Leafs.Because of his high cap hit and injury problems.
I predict 7th in the East with 90 points.
Canadiens
-signed Picard.Lost Halak,Mara,Moore and Bergeron.Having trouble with Price I predict they trade Price and get a Defenseman and sign Theodore.
I predict 13th in the East with 75 -points.
I predict Vancouver wins Stanley Cup against Tampa Bay.
Vancouver eliminates...
San Jose-Round 3
Detroit-Round 2
Chicago-Round 1
GO SHARKS GO |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 08:13:49
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When did the Leafs sign Mueller??
Vancouver will be a good team and MIGHT make the Finals, however I will bet my life they don't play Tampa and I would nearly bet my life that Vancouver would not beat Chicago, San Jose, and Detroit in 3 straight rounds.
As far as Atlanata goes, I completely agree with Slozo (blech) in they will likely finish dead last in the NHL. Serious, look at that roster and tell me where their offensive production comes from then look at their defense and tell me where they depth is. They have some talent in the back end offensively with Enstrom and Hainsey and a little defensively with Oduya, but 3 man defensive groups usually don't produce. A tandem of Chris Mason and Pavelec is nice, but without a decent team playing in front of them, it's going to be a long year.
Atlanta is going to be in tough in their division alone. Washington is sick, Tampa is getting better and is pretty offensively gifted, Rutherford has built a decent top 6 forwards and stable defense in Carolina, and one could even argue that on paper the Panthers are better than the Thrashers.
ATL is getting a lottery pick, more than likely 1-3. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 09:07:46
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Originally posted by Beans15
When did the Leafs sign Mueller??
Vancouver will be a good team and MIGHT make the Finals, however I will bet my life they don't play Tampa and I would nearly bet my life that Vancouver would not beat Chicago, San Jose, and Detroit in 3 straight rounds.
As far as Atlanata goes, I completely agree with Slozo (blech) in they will likely finish dead last in the NHL. Serious, look at that roster and tell me where their offensive production comes from then look at their defense and tell me where they depth is. They have some talent in the back end offensively with Enstrom and Hainsey and a little defensively with Oduya, but 3 man defensive groups usually don't produce. A tandem of Chris Mason and Pavelec is nice, but without a decent team playing in front of them, it's going to be a long year.
Atlanta is going to be in tough in their division alone. Washington is sick, Tampa is getting better and is pretty offensively gifted, Rutherford has built a decent top 6 forwards and stable defense in Carolina, and one could even argue that on paper the Panthers are better than the Thrashers.
ATL is getting a lottery pick, more than likely 1-3.
Oh sorry for the confusion I meant Marcel Mueller a good prospect that was in the elite league in Sweden.Peter Mueller is still unsigned by Colorado.
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 09:51:44
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How does Gerber, a guy who has not played in the NHL for a season and hasn't really played well anywhere since he was pulled in favor of Cam Ward in 06 mean the Oilers are going for the playoffs??
As I said. This is a 2 way deal. The only way that Gerber sees the Oiler's net is if Khabibulin is in jail.
Beans, I specifically wrote, "Aiming to finish close to the the playoff hunt"
I did not mean they intend to try to make the playoffs, but finish in a better position, between 10th and 12th. You are well aware that with the league parity, 10th or 12th position is often only a dozen wins away from playoffs, so it can be considered within the playoff hunt.
Besides, what self respecting athletes would not want to try to make the playoffs? Signing a veteran goaltender that can come up to play in the NHL on occasion and provide some stability or workload relief for Dubnyk or Deslauriers in case Khabi is unavailable, is definite intent from the Oilers that they do not want to finish last.
If you do not want to finish last, it means you will try not to stink. If you don't want to stink, it means you will try to keep up with the playoff race, but will not be disappointed if you miss them... |
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Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks
Here are my predictions for the leafs,Sharks,Canadiens
Sharks
-Lost some key players in Malhotra,Nabokov and Blake.They also signed Jamal Mayers to replace key depth forward Jed Ortmeyer who had a career year with San Jose.And I also predict Clowe will be traded to Buffalo for Stafford and Butler.I also think they sign Antti Niemi.
I predict 5th in the West with 115 points.
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I predict Vancouver wins Stanley Cup against Tampa Bay.
Vancouver eliminates...
San Jose-Round 3
Detroit-Round 2
Chicago-Round 1
GO SHARKS GO
Ok please make posts that make more sense and credible. C'mon 115 points and 5 in the conference? So who are at least the other 2 teams that will finish with more or equal points in the western conference? I don't see any other team capable of more than a 110 point season in their division . Are you just pulling things out of your... err... bottom?
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 10:28:43
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Joe - how is SJ finishing 5th in the West with 115 points? Last year 115 points would have been good for first. If 5th place is at 115 points, what will first be at?
Oh, all this talk about VAN making the finals - I have to agree with Beans, unlikely that TB could be the opponent there, but I certainly like to think that VAN has a legitimate shot at getting there.
That being said - is it just me or do people see a lot more parity in the west this upcoming year? IMO the only sure bets to miss the playoffs next year are CBJ, MIN, and DAL - everyone else has a legitimate shot of getting in. Powerhouses for the last few years (SJ, CHI) got worse over the summer, which should open up a lot of competition for those top spots and really help to mix things up. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 10:59:32
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Originally posted by nuxfan
Joe - how is SJ finishing 5th in the West with 115 points? Last year 115 points would have been good for first. If 5th place is at 115 points, what will first be at?
Oh, all this talk about VAN making the finals - I have to agree with Beans, unlikely that TB could be the opponent there, but I certainly like to think that VAN has a legitimate shot at getting there.
That being said - is it just me or do people see a lot more parity in the west this upcoming year? IMO the only sure bets to miss the playoffs next year are CBJ, MIN, and DAL - everyone else has a legitimate shot of getting in. Powerhouses for the last few years (SJ, CHI) got worse over the summer, which should open up a lot of competition for those top spots and really help to mix things up.
Oops I meant 105.
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 17:00:42
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Originally posted by polishexpress
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How does Gerber, a guy who has not played in the NHL for a season and hasn't really played well anywhere since he was pulled in favor of Cam Ward in 06 mean the Oilers are going for the playoffs??
As I said. This is a 2 way deal. The only way that Gerber sees the Oiler's net is if Khabibulin is in jail.
Beans, I specifically wrote, "Aiming to finish close to the the playoff hunt"
I did not mean they intend to try to make the playoffs, but finish in a better position, between 10th and 12th. You are well aware that with the league parity, 10th or 12th position is often only a dozen wins away from playoffs, so it can be considered within the playoff hunt.
Besides, what self respecting athletes would not want to try to make the playoffs? Signing a veteran goaltender that can come up to play in the NHL on occasion and provide some stability or workload relief for Dubnyk or Deslauriers in case Khabi is unavailable, is definite intent from the Oilers that they do not want to finish last.
If you do not want to finish last, it means you will try not to stink. If you don't want to stink, it means you will try to keep up with the playoff race, but will not be disappointed if you miss them...
Regardless of what you specifically wrote or not, the Oilers with or without Gerber are simply not good enough to win. They are good enough to compete most nights, but they are going to finish well out of the playoffs again and that's actually a good thing. There was a great write up in the Edmonton Sun today talking about the teams that have been successful recently and how they did it. Washington, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc all stank up the joint for a few years and picks up lottery picks. Edmonton will follow that model. It's not like they are going to tank intentionally, however they are not building a team to win today. They are icing a team with speed, size on the back end, and TONS of youth.
They will lose 2 for every 1 they win. 35 wins would be a huge surprise.
Finally, who wants to finish 8th to 12th?? Middle of the road, never get lottery picks, never get better. Hello Calgary. Hello NYR. Hello Minnesota. Hello Montreal.
Would you rather have a mediocre team all the time or a really good team every 4-5 years??? The structure of the NHL today dictates this and few teams other than Detroit have been good for the past decade. Most teams make a run for a year or two and then rebuild.
I sure hope you are wrong and I am right so that this Sean Couturier kid in the line up too. Then, in another year they will be not just competative but ready to win.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 18:49:00
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the avator things works lets say the loser has to have the winners team as his logo until the start of the following season?
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 19:24:49
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sigh.
It's a big risk, but I will agree to a penalty the same as what Beans and I did: 'wearing' the logo for the playoffs. No offseason, that'd just be cruel.
As with any bet, I must be prepared for the penalty if I lose . . . I hope you have thought about the shame of wearing the Blue and White proudly, as my man Beans did this last playoffs?
Can you imagine if Calgary makes the playoffs with a game to go, Iggy is at 35 goals, and they sit him?!? lol . . . will be a fun bet for sure.
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 08/08/2010 : 22:46:11
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@Beans
(Sorry for slow reply!)
I hope I am wrong too about Oiler mediocrity. I hope they stink it up, as long as it is not on purpose.
All I was thinking is that you never know how this year's rookies will do with goaltending slightly better than Dubnyk/Deslauriers(yes, debatable that Gerber is better than them). The Oil could look pretty good for the first 10-20 games, and then collapse once the rookies steam wears out. (You gotta admit, if Hall, Paajarvi, Omark, and Eberle make the team, they will be playing their guts out, and will get some limited success until the other teams get in gear and beat the tar out of us again!)
All I was thinking is that at least the Oilers aren't gonna try to lose...
By the way, middle of the road? I think that middle of the road spell's the Oiler's last two decades!!!!!
09/10- 30th
08/09- 21st/30
07/08- 19th/30
06/07- 25th/30
05/06- 14th/30
03/04- 17th/30
02/03- 14th/30
01/02- 15th/30
00/01- 12th/30
99/00- 14th/28
98/99- 16th/27
97/98- 15th/26
96/97- 13th/26
95/96- 21st/26
94/95- 22nd/26
93/94- 23rd/26
92/93- 20th/24
91/92- 12th/22
90/91- 11th/21
That comes to an average place of 64/100, which is roughly 19/30.
Is that middle of the road or what? So, forgive me if that is kind of what I expected! |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 10:44:26
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Thanks for the info but that proves exactly what I mean. The Oilers have been average to below average for 20 years and with the exception of a fluke run to the Cup, they have won NOTHING.
I would rather have a team like Tampa Bay or Anaheim who were brilliant for a few season and won and then had to rebuild over having a team that is average forever.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 11:14:35
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sigh.
It's a big risk, but I will agree to a penalty the same as what Beans and I did: 'wearing' the logo for the playoffs. No offseason, that'd just be cruel.
As with any bet, I must be prepared for the penalty if I lose . . . I hope you have thought about the shame of wearing the Blue and White proudly, as my man Beans did this last playoffs?
Can you imagine if Calgary makes the playoffs with a game to go, Iggy is at 35 goals, and they sit him?!? lol . . . will be a fun bet for sure.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Slozo I bet Iggy will net 45-50 goals....
GO SHARKS GO |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 12:00:30
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Originally posted by slozo
sigh.
It's a big risk, but I will agree to a penalty the same as what Beans and I did: 'wearing' the logo for the playoffs. No offseason, that'd just be cruel.
As with any bet, I must be prepared for the penalty if I lose . . . I hope you have thought about the shame of wearing the Blue and White proudly, as my man Beans did this last playoffs?
Can you imagine if Calgary makes the playoffs with a game to go, Iggy is at 35 goals, and they sit him?!? lol . . . will be a fun bet for sure.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
ok the playoffs it is, the terms are set we agree the bet is on?
yeah see i can see this one going right down the the wire i'm almost sure with a week left in the regular season Iggy will have something like 32 to 34 goals and both of us will be biting our nails...
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Alex116
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 12:01:16
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Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Originally posted by slozo
sigh.
It's a big risk, but I will agree to a penalty the same as what Beans and I did: 'wearing' the logo for the playoffs. No offseason, that'd just be cruel.
As with any bet, I must be prepared for the penalty if I lose . . . I hope you have thought about the shame of wearing the Blue and White proudly, as my man Beans did this last playoffs?
Can you imagine if Calgary makes the playoffs with a game to go, Iggy is at 35 goals, and they sit him?!? lol . . . will be a fun bet for sure.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Slozo I bet Iggy will net 45-50 goals....
GO SHARKS GO
Enjoy your Leafs logo Joe......... 
Iggy has scored 45+ twice (both his 50+ seasons) and aside from those, he has once been over 40. Now, not saying that he's ancient but, he's aging and you figure he's gonna put up 45+? How 'bout, if Slozo wins, you don't post for the entire playoffs? |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 12:32:33
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Just so I get this,
If Iginla scores more than 35 goals and is +5 over a PPG average or more, Pasty wins.
Anything else, Slozo wins.
Did I get this right??
This is one tight bet if I got the information right. The goals might be close, but in 3 of the last 4 years Iginla has been well over the +5 PPG area. In fact, his best season as a pro was just 4 seasons ago where he had 98 points in 70 games!
Remember who his linemate where at that point?? He played most of his time with Tanguay and Langkow/Conroy.
At the age of 33, Iginla is not getting any younger but one can't say he is past his prime. Look at what guys like Mike Modano, Joe Sakic, and Mats Sundin were doing in their early to mid 30's.
At the same time, Calgary's coaching seems to have put some handcuffs on Jerome's style and this bet is only an injury away from being Slozo's.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 12:37:48
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Originally posted by slozo
sigh.
It's a big risk, but I will agree to a penalty the same as what Beans and I did: 'wearing' the logo for the playoffs. No offseason, that'd just be cruel.
As with any bet, I must be prepared for the penalty if I lose . . . I hope you have thought about the shame of wearing the Blue and White proudly, as my man Beans did this last playoffs?
Can you imagine if Calgary makes the playoffs with a game to go, Iggy is at 35 goals, and they sit him?!? lol . . . will be a fun bet for sure.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Slozo I bet Iggy will net 45-50 goals....
GO SHARKS GO
Enjoy your Leafs logo Joe.........
Iggy has scored 45+ twice (both his 50+ seasons) and aside from those, he has once been over 40. Now, not saying that he's ancient but, he's aging and you figure he's gonna put up 45+? How 'bout, if Slozo wins, you don't post for the entire playoffs?
That is kind of mean but I will do it.I have a feeling that Iggy will have one more 50 goal year in his career and that this will be it.
If I am roight you make San Jose your avatar for the NHL Playoffs.
GO SHARKS GO |
Edited by - Jumbo Joe Rocks on 08/09/2010 12:42:36 |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2010 : 12:58:09
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Originally posted by slozo
sigh.
It's a big risk, but I will agree to a penalty the same as what Beans and I did: 'wearing' the logo for the playoffs. No offseason, that'd just be cruel.
As with any bet, I must be prepared for the penalty if I lose . . . I hope you have thought about the shame of wearing the Blue and White proudly, as my man Beans did this last playoffs?
Can you imagine if Calgary makes the playoffs with a game to go, Iggy is at 35 goals, and they sit him?!? lol . . . will be a fun bet for sure.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Slozo I bet Iggy will net 45-50 goals....
GO SHARKS GO
Enjoy your Leafs logo Joe.........
Iggy has scored 45+ twice (both his 50+ seasons) and aside from those, he has once been over 40. Now, not saying that he's ancient but, he's aging and you figure he's gonna put up 45+? How 'bout, if Slozo wins, you don't post for the entire playoffs?
I like the leafs so it doesnt matter I would hate to have the Canucks or Capitals as my avatar cant stand those 2 teams
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 08/09/2010 : 17:25:10
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Originally posted by Beans15
Just so I get this,
If Iginla scores more than 35 goals and is +5 over a PPG average or more, Pasty wins.
Anything else, Slozo wins.
Did I get this right??
This is one tight bet if I got the information right. The goals might be close, but in 3 of the last 4 years Iginla has been well over the +5 PPG area. In fact, his best season as a pro was just 4 seasons ago where he had 98 points in 70 games!
Remember who his linemate where at that point?? He played most of his time with Tanguay and Langkow/Conroy.
At the age of 33, Iginla is not getting any younger but one can't say he is past his prime. Look at what guys like Mike Modano, Joe Sakic, and Mats Sundin were doing in their early to mid 30's.
At the same time, Calgary's coaching seems to have put some handcuffs on Jerome's style and this bet is only an injury away from being Slozo's.
This is going to be fun to watch all season.
almost right beans we decided to eliminated the points, so (unless i am wrong) the bet is if Iginla score 36 or more goals in the 2010-2011 regular season i win, if he scores 35 or less goals Slozo wins,, this is regardless of wether or not he gets hurt, regardless of roster changes, including if Iginla himself changes team, it is simply based on How many NHL goals Iginla scores this upcoming season,, i think this will be a very tight bet because at most i see Iggy geting 40 ish,,, but he is almost always over 30 goals per season,, we shall see,,, and Joe he cant bet his Avator twice,,
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2010 : 01:57:19
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It should be a close bet indeed.
Iginla has topped out with 36 goals or more 6 times in his career compared 9 times, of less than 36 (35 or less). This includes seasons where he did not play a 'full' season. Although, he has never played less than 70 games. Pretty solid guy!
But, it's a safe bet he'll reach 30 or more goals, if healthy.
Honestly, I see Iginla hitting his usual 32-35 goals. But, if he finds a bit of magic from the new guys like Hagman, Tanguay & Jokinen... he could hit the 40 plateau.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2010 : 06:53:36
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Originally posted by Pasty7
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Originally posted by Beans15
Just so I get this,
If Iginla scores more than 35 goals and is +5 over a PPG average or more, Pasty wins.
Anything else, Slozo wins.
Did I get this right??
This is one tight bet if I got the information right. The goals might be close, but in 3 of the last 4 years Iginla has been well over the +5 PPG area. In fact, his best season as a pro was just 4 seasons ago where he had 98 points in 70 games!
Remember who his linemate where at that point?? He played most of his time with Tanguay and Langkow/Conroy.
At the age of 33, Iginla is not getting any younger but one can't say he is past his prime. Look at what guys like Mike Modano, Joe Sakic, and Mats Sundin were doing in their early to mid 30's.
At the same time, Calgary's coaching seems to have put some handcuffs on Jerome's style and this bet is only an injury away from being Slozo's.
This is going to be fun to watch all season.
almost right beans we decided to eliminated the points, so (unless i am wrong) the bet is if Iginla score 36 or more goals in the 2010-2011 regular season i win, if he scores 35 or less goals Slozo wins,, this is regardless of wether or not he gets hurt, regardless of roster changes, including if Iginla himself changes team, it is simply based on How many NHL goals Iginla scores this upcoming season,, i think this will be a very tight bet because at most i see Iggy geting 40 ish,,, but he is almost always over 30 goals per season,, we shall see,,, and Joe he cant bet his Avator twice,,
Pasty
i am only betting Iggy gets 45+ goals.
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2010 : 08:06:35
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If I am roight you make San Jose your avatar for the NHL Playoffs.
GO SHARKS GO
He can only bet is Avator once joe , would you like me to repeat it again>?
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 11:22:43
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Thank goodness the person I am doing the bet with is one of the few here who have some degree of English reading comprehension.
Yes Pasty, we are a go as you explained, and as I already stated plainly, and will state plainly again!
If Iginla scores 35 goals or less in the regular season (no matter injuries, team movement, etc):
I, the Great Slozo, win. Pasty then changes his avatar to the lovely Blue Leaf of Mapleland for the entire run of the playoffs.
If Iginla scores 36 goals or more in the regular season (no matter if he changes teams and gets an extra game, or no matter if Kovalchuk signs with Calgary and Thornton is traded there):
The Lucky Pasty wins. Sad Slozo would then change his avatar to that most hated of teams, Less Canadiens, for the entire run of the playoffs.
This is the bet, and I can assume Pasty is in agreement with it now, as I am, and this will serve as our imaginary handshake on it as gentlemen.
Break a leg, Iggy! I mean, Pasty! 
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2010 : 11:40:48
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Originally posted by slozo
Thank goodness the person I am doing the bet with is one of the few here who have some degree of English reading comprehension.
Yes Pasty, we are a go as you explained, and as I already stated plainly, and will state plainly again!
If Iginla scores 35 goals or less in the regular season (no matter injuries, team movement, etc):
I, the Great Slozo, win. Pasty then changes his avatar to the lovely Blue Leaf of Mapleland for the entire run of the playoffs.
If Iginla scores 36 goals or more in the regular season (no matter if he changes teams and gets an extra game, or no matter if Kovalchuk signs with Calgary and Thornton is traded there):
The Lucky Pasty wins. Sad Slozo would then change his avatar to that most hated of teams, Less Canadiens, for the entire run of the playoffs.
This is the bet, and I can assume Pasty is in agreement with it now, as I am, and this will serve as our imaginary handshake on it as gentlemen.
Break a leg, Iggy! I mean, Pasty!
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Imaginary handshake Accepted
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 08/10/2010 : 11:54:40
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Originally posted by slozo
Thank goodness the person I am doing the bet with is one of the few here who have some degree of English reading comprehension.
Yes Pasty, we are a go as you explained, and as I already stated plainly, and will state plainly again!
If Iginla scores 35 goals or less in the regular season (no matter injuries, team movement, etc):
I, the Great Slozo, win. Pasty then changes his avatar to the lovely Blue Leaf of Mapleland for the entire run of the playoffs.
If Iginla scores 36 goals or more in the regular season (no matter if he changes teams and gets an extra game, or no matter if Kovalchuk signs with Calgary and Thornton is traded there):
The Lucky Pasty wins. Sad Slozo would then change his avatar to that most hated of teams, Less Canadiens, for the entire run of the playoffs.
This is the bet, and I can assume Pasty is in agreement with it now, as I am, and this will serve as our imaginary handshake on it as gentlemen.
Break a leg, Iggy! I mean, Pasty!
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Ok 1 thing Jumbo is staying in San Jose for the rest of his career or getting traded to Toronto.Oh ya Pasty I meant Alex116 has to change his avatar to San Jose till next season if I am right 45+ goals.
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Deaner
Rookie
Canada
107 Posts |
Posted - 08/20/2010 : 18:18:20
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| i hope joe comes to toronto, would be sick, i think he is really the guy we are missing on our team with him we would be a force. |
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SJfortheCUP
Top Prospect
Canada
5 Posts |
Posted - 08/21/2010 : 07:04:19
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Originally posted by Deaner
i hope joe comes to toronto, would be sick, i think he is really the guy we are missing on our team with him we would be a force.
Joe is my favorite player who do you think it would take to get him to Toronto.I would'nt want to trade him but I am a huge Leafs fan too.Starting with Luke Schenn or Carl Gunnarsson. |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2010 : 17:53:59
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Originally posted by SJfortheCUP
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Originally posted by Deaner
i hope joe comes to toronto, would be sick, i think he is really the guy we are missing on our team with him we would be a force.
Joe is my favorite player who do you think it would take to get him to Toronto.I would'nt want to trade him but I am a huge Leafs fan too.Starting with Luke Schenn or Carl Gunnarsson.
yeah jumbo joe ....... i mean SJfor the cup
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
525 Posts |
Posted - 08/23/2010 : 22:42:17
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Back on topic...
I think that Islanders may be an interesting team this year with their young guys developing more... Okposo, Tavares, Schremp, Nielsen, Moulson, Nelson, Comeau... Just I don't know how their D and Goaltending will hold up.
I really think Tavares will break out this similarly to Stamkos last year...just not to the same level... |
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Who will do well next season? 
