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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
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 Posted - 12/04/2010 : 02:46:55
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is it just me or does malkin look lost, lazy and just going though the motions, the pen's dont really need him?
what do you think they could get and where woulnd they ship him?
hay now... hay now.... dont dream it's over
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Statman
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 06:36:49
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| Seems to me that would be a foolish knee-jerk reaction trade. Particularly when his value is somewhat lowered beacause of his struggles this season. |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 06:53:10
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i know, im just saying that they could really free up some cap room
hay now... hay now.... dont dream it's over |
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Guest4050
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 08:16:29
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Here's a question for thought?
who can they bring in that a team is willing to part ways with that is even as remotely talented as malkin?
Dumb Question, and way to premature considering the guy just won the hart two years ago
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 08:57:28
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Ok crosby has twice as many points as him right now. Malkin is either injured, disheartened or just doesn't work in this system without gonchar anymore
Go OILERS Go!!! |
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Guest8599
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 09:36:13
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| Trade Malkin and Staal to Calgary for Iginla, Jokinen, Jackman, Bouwmeester and the Sutters! |
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doublechamp7
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 10:05:07
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| He just doesn't seem to be giving it all this year. He's slacking off which is something he neever did before. |
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Guest9193
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 10:20:55
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| he can afford to slack off, crosby's got it under control! |
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Guest4981
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 13:57:51
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| The second Stall is on the ice being the second line center, Malkin will rape in the points department. He is playing with Ashem and Cooke who are both power fowards. They arn't ment to get points. Malkin and Stall will be great. However if that doesn't happen, then Malkin could get traded for two awesome right or left wingers. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 14:26:12
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Originally posted by foolpittier
is it just me or does malkin look lost, lazy and just going though the motions, the pen's dont really need him?
what do you think they could get and where woulnd they ship him?
hay now... hay now.... dont dream it's over
Hmmmm, i'd say the Flames would prob give up Iginla, Bourque, a draft pick and a box set of Crowded House CD's?  |
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chef
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 15:10:54
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Trade Malkin and Cooke for Markov & Boyd.
Crowded house is pretty gay! |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
374 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2010 : 17:06:19
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| crowded house is pretty gay but iggy and bourque whold look nice with the pens |
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
591 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2010 : 17:27:37
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Originally posted by chef
Trade Malkin and Cooke for Markov & Boyd.
Crowded house is pretty gay!
The habs probably would have to throw in 4 1st rounded to make that work btw
Go OILERS Go!!! |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2010 : 18:44:59
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Originally posted by sahis34
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Originally posted by chef
Trade Malkin and Cooke for Markov & Boyd.
Crowded house is pretty gay!
The habs probably would have to throw in 4 1st rounded to make that work btw
Go OILERS Go!!!
Not to mention Markov is out for the season and not signed for next season so they would be basicly tradeing Boyd for Malkin now that would be impressive!~ lol
"In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the bigs." - Bob Uecker
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chef
Top Prospect
Canada
25 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2010 : 20:12:42
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the pens are doing fine right now but knowing that they would be getting the best defense men in the league. I'm sure that evi for andre would workout just fine.Besides they both could use new teams.
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 12/04/2010 : 20:28:14
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Originally posted by chef
the pens are doing fine right now but knowing that they would be getting the best defense men in the league. I'm sure that evi for andre would workout just fine.Besides they both could use new teams.
Go Habs
Markov is out for the year! and next year he is a UFA why would anyone trade anything other than a conditional draft pick for him knowing he could never play a game for you!
"In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the bigs." - Bob Uecker
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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 12/04/2010 : 21:40:46
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If Malkin is doing so bad and the Pens are doing so well why would they trade to improve Crosby's play? Crosby is at the top of his game right now and making trades to help him will only hurt him. I don't care how bad Malkin is doing he is still up there with Crosby, and Ovechkin. As for upping defense try to improve on Letang.
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andarchy
Top Prospect
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 07:58:27
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| Trade him for Brad Richards and one of the young Stars' players then throw some "Malkin like" money at Richards next year to keep him. The Pens need another all-star Canadian type player to win another cup. Not to mention the stars will have a hard time holding onto Richards after the season ends. |
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Guest0712
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 08:05:24
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| he is battling a knee injury for god sakes, it happens, Utemin you flip flop about crosby all the time, and why would they trade him for any of the trades you ppl say it would be a waste, |
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andarchy
Top Prospect
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 08:34:21
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| Easy there guest 0712 (if that is your real name). Obviously it would be stupid to trade him, he is a potential 100+ point player every season. It's just fun to toss around ideas of trades and who the fans would like to see on certain teams. That's it, that's all. The topic question was, "What do you think they could get and where would they ship him"? |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2010 : 09:02:52
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| andarchy, the Pens need another top line centre like I need another hole in the head. If Malkin goes (and I still think its a distinct possibility if the Pens have a subpar season), it will not be for another first line centre. They're pretty set up the middle with Crosby and Staal. |
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 10:23:44
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Yeah, as good as the Pens are playing right now because of Crosby's stellar play (and the return of Fleury playing decently), I have always contended that Jordan Staal is wasted as a third line center. He should be second line, and getting more minutes.
I would trade Malkin, but would take my time to see if anyone wants to overpay (see: desperate teams that need a top centre or more offence).
Malkin would look great with Kessel, or can you imagine him with Gaborik? The possibilities are many . . .
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andarchy
Top Prospect
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 10:39:19
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| Fine. Then keep the kick-ass young player(s) that you get from Dallas and then trade Richards at the deadline (or when Staal returns) for even more talent from another team. Call it a 'mini rebuild' consisting of talent-laden wingers and defencemen, then make a run at the cup for a few more years. |
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 11:01:11
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I don`t mean to knock Russian players because there have been many great ones to play in the NHL....but...Malkin is not the first one to float around the ice after several seasons of tough NHL grind year in - year out.
Does anyone really think that Malkin has lost it or something ?? Was Jorden Staal a 2nd line center when he was playing great ??
Malkin will perform in the playoffs again, but as for playing hard in 82 games...forget it. |
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Guest6911
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 11:36:41
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| Malkin is injured |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
374 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2010 : 13:43:13
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Originally posted by andarchy
Easy there guest 0712 (if that is your real name). Obviously it would be stupid to trade him, he is a potential 100+ point player every season. It's just fun to toss around ideas of trades and who the fans would like to see on certain teams. That's it, that's all. The topic question was, "What do you think they could get and where would they ship him"?
it was ment to be fun.. thats all |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 15:19:43
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Fine. Then keep the kick-ass young player(s) that you get from Dallas and then trade Richards at the deadline (or when Staal returns) for even more talent from another team. Call it a 'mini rebuild' consisting of talent-laden wingers and defencemen, then make a run at the cup for a few more years.
You think that DAL is giving up Richards AND a whole bunch of kick ass young players to get Malkin? Now you're dreaming.
PIT has no need for Richards, and the players they do need from DAL (Neal, Benn, Morrow, Eriksson), DAL is likely not giving up. DAL has no interest in Malkin and his 8M salary as they're doing all they can to shed salaries - if they were ready to shell out 8M on a centre, they would just lock up Richards.
There is no realistic trade between DAL and PIT. |
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
591 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2010 : 17:58:09
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If there's a trade pittsburgh will get a winger for malkin
Go OILERS Go!!! |
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Guest4155
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Posted - 12/05/2010 : 22:48:26
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| The fairest trade I can think of is Malkin for Boumeester straight up. It would help both teams. |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
374 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2010 : 02:09:09
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Originally posted by Guest4155
The fairest trade I can think of is Malkin for Boumeester straight up. It would help both teams.
and renne bourque |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 07:58:19
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Originally posted by Guest4155
The fairest trade I can think of is Malkin for Boumeester straight up. It would help both teams.
Dude, your "GO FLAMES GO" signature line isn't showing up in your post for some reason??? |
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Guest5655
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 09:56:41
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I've thought Pitts should trade Malkin for a while (although it was worth it to see if they could be a dynasty)
Trade with Edmonton - for Penner and Eberle. (and trust me, it hurts me to put Eberle there, but Edm doesn't have to throw in draft picks)
Trade with Columbus - Filatov and Pahlsson and a first and second draft pick.
Who else is in need of a #1 big center - maybe Nashville for Hornquist and one of their unknown but will probably be great young defenseman, Bouillon, Klein, Franson and a first and second round draft pick.
Toronto could use a big center but who would they trade, Kessel :)
St. Louis Blues - trade Oshie and Steen and a 1st round pick. |
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
696 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2010 : 10:15:35
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top cheese
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 10:22:30
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every trade said has so far been stupid, pit is doing fine without malkin playing stellar. They would trade him if the right offer came but that does not include getting a high priced older centermen back (richards) or terrible defensemen (bouwmeester and markov), YES i said terrible, not to mention injured and/or a unsigned players.
Getting Iggy makes no sense for either team either, if Calgary is going to trade him, it would be for prospects hinting a rebuild. Would you dump your best two scorers (bourque and iggy) for a 8.7 cap hit player who isn't even playing as good as iggy is right now? I'd rather trade Iggy for draft picks and prosepcts and use that left over money from iginla's 7 mil hit to sign someone else to play with Bourque. It's science.
If for some reason Malkin goes I assure you it's for a good young top 6 forward and a couple of promising prospects. but not edmonton's
It's fun to think about possible trades, in this case some of you sound like most of you should be posting on a "so you think you can dance" forum. Especially the guy who said bouwmeester straight up for malkin, |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 10:34:01
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Originally posted by top cheese
Getting Iggy makes no sense for either team either, if Calgary is going to trade him, it would be for prospects hinting a rebuild. Would you dump your best two scorers (bourque and iggy) for a 8.7 cap hit player who isn't even playing as good as iggy is right now? I'd rather trade Iggy for draft picks and prosepcts and use that left over money from iginla's 7 mil hit to sign someone else to play with Bourque. It's science.
If for some reason Malkin goes I assure you it's for a good young top 6 forward and a couple of promising prospects. but not edmonton's
Hey Cheese....first off, the trade i proposed was mostly meant in jest as i didn't think the Crowded House CD set would be enough for Malkin. Secondly, i dunno what "science" you speak of, but are you serious that you don't think Calgary would take Malkin in a trade involving Iggy? You say they'd trade him for a young top 6 forward plus prospects? Any idea how old Malkin is? Any idea of how good he is? FYI, he's only 24 and i'll leave it up to you to look at his resume. If Calgary could get him for a package involving Iggy, it's prob speed up their rebuild!!! |
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Guest4050
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 10:53:03
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Being a lifetime Pens fan i am thoroughly entertained by some of the trade propositions especially the flames front office and half their team lol ( You think we can have both sons from carolina as well)
I would have to agree though that upon the arrival of J Staal malkin would begin to tear it up again but how scary is it that they're currently the best team in hockey with really know production from one of the top 5 best players in the league (offensively not overall) and the majority of the offense either comes from crosby or the d?
Also for the drunken habs fan who called markov the best d man in the league. Shake your head a bit NEVER WAS NOR NEVER WILL BE. I would have never even put him in the top 5 maybe not even 10 and now will two acl injuries in 2 consecutive yrs he is as valuable as sean avery.
The only player i would ever like to see the pens go after for the likes of malkin even though i liked someones thought about brad richards and a young player (jamie benn or james neal would be great) is eric staal. Hands down the most underrated player in the league and the guy does everything on a team with very little else to offer.
As George McFee i would sign Alexander Semin and ship ovechkin off to carolina for Staal if he ever has the desire off winning a cup cuz ovechkin is another Russian captain who cannot lead and is more concerned about how many points he has in the end as opposed to how many team accolades he has.
I apoligize to anyone who is offended by my Russian's cannot lead comment but i am simply stating based on their track records. |
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 11:07:16
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| If Dallas could afford Malkin, they would just sign Richards, so that makes 0 sense. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 12:16:07
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Guest, again - why would PIT go after Eric Staal? They don't need another centre. They need quality scoring wingers to complement their already very good centres in Crosby and Jordan Staal.
The interesting thing about Malkin is that unlike other stars, he does not have a NTC or NMC (until the 13/14 season), so he can be moved anywhere. |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 12:24:48
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Alex, you're arguing with people who think that manipulation of numbers is science. No use. If they would have said "its a science," in reference to the field of mathematics, then there would have been a point of arguing.
Anyway, I can't remember who wrote this, lots of guests in this thread, but someone mentioned that the Pens would be more likely to make a move after the results of this season are in. If the results come in sub-par, then get some goods for Malkin.
That I agree with. I see absolutely no reasons why the Pens would even entertain trading him away now, unless a team approaches them with a deal they can't refuse.(in fact, the Penner, Eberle deal suggested looked close, throw in a couple of really high draft picks, and Pittsburgh may not refuse, though they wouldn't need another center in Eberle. But EDM wouldn't make that trade.) |
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Guest4746
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 13:55:21
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Originally posted by polishexpress
Alex, you're arguing with people who think that manipulation of numbers is science. No use. If they would have said "its a science," in reference to the field of mathematics, then there would have been a point of arguing.
Anyway, I can't remember who wrote this, lots of guests in this thread, but someone mentioned that the Pens would be more likely to make a move after the results of this season are in. If the results come in sub-par, then get some goods for Malkin.
That I agree with. I see absolutely no reasons why the Pens would even entertain trading him away now, unless a team approaches them with a deal they can't refuse.(in fact, the Penner, Eberle deal suggested looked close, throw in a couple of really high draft picks, and Pittsburgh may not refuse, though they wouldn't need another center in Eberle. But EDM wouldn't make that trade.)
Why would Edmonton not make this suggested trade? Lets say they even throw in this years first round pick theyre still laughing. They got a top 5 forward locked up for alot of years and really only giving up Eberle who could be good (not Malkin good) and this years first rounder who at the end of the day probably has a 10% chance of being at the level of Malkin. Penners a free agent after this year if I am no mistaken so he helps this year only.
Malkin is the type of player you can build around! |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 12/06/2010 : 14:15:21
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Originally posted by polishexpress
...... though they wouldn't need another center in Eberle.
Isn't Eberle a winger? I saw him listed somewhere at a center but otherwise, most listings have him as a winger? Think i recall him playing wing for the WJ's? Is he not a winger in Edm?
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malkin, what are you doing? 
