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Guest8149
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 Posted - 02/22/2011 : 23:15:57
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Are the Canucks better off without Luongo as captain?
When is Wayne Gretzky going to resurface as a coach, GM, etc, in the NHL?
Will Sheldon Souray ever play again in the NHL?
What happened to Wade Redden?
Will Sidney Crosby ever be the same? (Think Pat Lafontaine.)
How is Ivanans doing since he was KO'd in the first game of the season?
Could we have another Sedin win the Art Ross Trophy this year? And maybe the Hart too?
Will the Stanley Cup champs miss the playoffs this season?
Is Briane Burke nuts? (Okay - this is a bit off the wall, but did he actually say "if I tell you, I'll have to kill you" to a reporter?)
And lastly - will we ever see a dynasty again, or at the very least, back-to-back Stanley Cup Champs?
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Guest4434
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 23:48:38
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I will answer what I can, as brief as I can.
Yes, Luongo should never have been captain in the first place.
No, Souray will continue to fight AHLers. And continue to kick their asses, I might add.
Sidney Crosby will tear it up the minute he steps back onto the ice.
Not only could we, but we WILL have another Sedin win the Art Ross Trophy this year. History will be made.
It's a good thing Chicago won when they did, because if they make the playoffs, they will make it by just a hair.
Brian Burke is not nuts. And if he asked the reporter that, he was not seriously going to kill him. He was frustrated, and was simply not going to tell the reporter anything.
In my opinion, Detroit is currently a dynasty. Perhaps not to the same level that Habs or Oilers were, but they have been so good for so long. Back to back champs? Hard to do. Try rolling doubles twice in a row. |
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JonPolley
Top Prospect
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 08:19:11
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Dunno about Gretzky.. mroe then likely a job with the NHL moreso then a team
Sheldon will play again yup. too many injuries to D for someone to not pick him up
No clue where or what Redden is doing
Sid.. I hope so
no clue about Ivanan
Yup you will see Daniel win both
quite possible they miss it yup
BB is a loon but actually a nice guy..and I hate the Make Be Leafs
back to back.. without a doubt.. a dynasty of like 5 cups.. I hightly doubt it.. teams change players so much nowadays compared to back in the day. Look at Chicago.. champs to chumps because they couldn't pay the players and stay within the cap. Any team that wins the cup this will happen to. If they win the cup the guys that are making the low money are going to claim and rightfully so that they had a part in their team winning.. so teams will constantly lose players because when you win the cup everyone wants a raise so they will always lose players. |
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Gusteroni
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 15:20:01
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Raitis Ivanans hasn't played since getting KO'd by Steve MacIntyre on Oct. 7/10 and is currently on the IR with what is said to be a concussion.
Wade Redden is playing for the NY Rangers AHL affiliate the Connecticut Whale. He has mentioned that he might walk away from the Rangers and the 16.5 million owed to him at the end of the season to get a shot with another NHL team. It seems the Rangers don't want to risk him getting picked up on re-entry waivers.
"When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too." |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 15:26:57
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There is no way Redden would ever be picked up on re-entry waivers anyways. He'd still be a $3.25 million cap (current contract pays him $6.5 million a year) hit until the end of the 13/14 season. The way he played for the Rangers the past 2 seasons, he'd be lucky if he was worth half of that $3.25.
And ever if there was a chance of him being picked up...and again there is not...the Rangers i'm sure would rather continue paying him $6.5 million to play in the AHL than have him counting as a $3.25 million cap hit for the next 3 years to play for someone else. The Rangers are one of the few organizations in the league that can afford to bury him in the minors, and at the same time can't afford to basically throw away 3.25 mil of their cap space. |
Edited by - ryan93 on 02/23/2011 15:39:47 |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 16:49:06
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How does that work? If he "walks away", he can't suddenly be a free agent can he??? What are his options? Couldn't any player just "walk away" anytime if he can? I'm confused 
As for a team picking him up on re-entry, i wouldn't be shocked. Has he really just completely lost his game to never be found again? I don't see him much but this is a guy who was +8 last year, albeit with only 14pts. Sure, the salary is terrible for that production, but he wasn't even given a chance this year was he??? Did he not make the '06 Olympic team for Canada? Sure, that's 5 years ago, but did he really turn that bad that fast or is it simply a team being able to afford to bury a large contract of a still NHL quality player? |
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Beans15
Moderator
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 16:57:11
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I don't believe a player and/or team can walk away from a deal. I think it should be able to happen, but I don't think it can under today's rules.
However, Redden can be 'loaned' to a team in Europe meaning he would be off the Rangers Cap, they don't have to pay him, and Redden could play overseas. A la Cristobal Huet.
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 17:07:07
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Redden can`t just walk away, he won`t get paid. He still gets his full salary playing in the AHL, but no NHL cap hit, same situation with Jeff Finger of the leafs.
The only way there is no cap hit to the rangers of Reddens salary is to do what they are doing with him now....or trade him.
If he is claimed off waivers a team has to cover his 6 . 5 million salary and cap hit.....ain`t gonna happen.
Even if he is claimed off re - entry waivers his new team has a 3 . 25 cap hit and salary ( which isn`t too bad for his new club )...BUT....can`t see this happening because....the Rangers will be on the hook for the duration of his contract years for the remaining 3 . 25 cap hit, therefore hand-cuffing them.
Reden better enjoy the AHL......just the results of another lousy signing by Glen Sater. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 17:22:04
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| Thanks guys, that's what i thought. Really sucks for him as i'm sure at 3.25 he'd have a team or two willing to take a chance on him! Basically looks like the Rangers are doing this because it's affordable to them, unfortunately it's affecting a guy who could still play in the NHL. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 17:59:12
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I don't believe a player and/or team can walk away from a deal. I think it should be able to happen, but I don't think it can under today's rules.
Actually, I don't think this is true - under standard contract law, law of rescission states that if all parties in a contract agree to terminate a contract, then the contract is dissolved. I don't think the NHL can circumvent contract law within the league.
The CBA does not specifically deal with this situation, except for in the case of contract renegotiation (where a contract is dissolved and then a new one is negotiated with the same team at a lower dollar amount), but this is not that case. I don't think that this has ever happened in the NHL either, normally players and teams don't both agree to end their own contracts. However, legally there is nothing stopping this.
However, Redden likely still wants to play hockey - the catch would be whether or not the league would allow Redden to sign another contract with another team in the NHL. Certainly he would be barred from signing with the Rangers (it would be seen as contract renegotiation), but its not clear what would happen if he chose to sign with another team.
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 19:34:58
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I honestly can't imagine any team willing to pay him $3.25 million, i'd be absolutely shocked. He was horrible the past 2 years for the Rangers, and i don't mean just offensively. Constantly turning the puck over, getting beat outside...he looked slow out there, and really just dis-interested. I could see a team taking a chance on him in the $1.5-1.75 million range, but certainly not at $3+.
I like the quote i read earlier this season, i think it might of been in The Hockey News...i can't remember which defensemen they were talking about, but it said that Wade Redden will make more this season in 1 game than his defense partner will make the entire season, and his partner was a more effective blueliner. |
Edited by - ryan93 on 02/23/2011 19:39:22 |
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spade632
Rookie
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 10:50:58
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On Redden -
For the Whale he's played 51 Games - 5 G - 27 A and he's now sporting a 'stache to rival Parros' > http://cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=ahl&file_path=img/players/3790.jpg&w=150
There was a semi-persistent rumour going around Ottawa that he had a particular fondness for a certain white powder. (I have absolutely no corroboration of that though).
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When is Wayne Gretzky going to resurface as a coach, GM, etc, in the NHL?
No idea. I don't really see him coaching again though.
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Will Sheldon Souray ever play again in the NHL?
The injury bug has bit him hard. I don't think there'll be many teams that will gamble on him.
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Will Sidney Crosby ever be the same? (Think Pat Lafontaine.)
I think it'll take him a couple games / weeks to get back in to top form.
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re: Ivananas
Still out indefinitely.
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Could we have another Sedin win the Art Ross Trophy this year? And maybe the Hart too?
Definitely.
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Will the Stanley Cup champs miss the playoffs this season?
They're in 7th right now, but the Western conference is super tight. If they make it, it'll be by the skin of their teeth. All the talent / salary they had to unload because of cap issues has really hurt them.
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Is Briane Burke nuts? (Okay - this is a bit off the wall, but did he actually say "if I tell you, I'll have to kill you" to a reporter?)
Burke's just being Burke.
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And lastly - will we ever see a dynasty again, or at the very least, back-to-back Stanley Cup Champs?
I think so. I agree with Guest4434 - in today's NHL environment I'd call the Wings a dynasty. By the same token, back -to-back wins is TOUGH. Even consecutive finals appearances is hard to do.
I'd argue that a "dynasty" be broadened from the idea of X cups in Y years to being consistently high performing in the regular and post-season.
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 11:56:51
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Originally posted by spade632
On Redden -
For the Whale he's played 51 Games - 5 G - 27 A and he's now sporting a 'stache to rival Parros' > http://cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=ahl&file_path=img/players/3790.jpg&w=150
There was a semi-persistent rumour going around Ottawa that he had a particular fondness for a certain white powder. (I have absolutely no corroboration of that though).
Yeah, i heard the cocaine rumors as well. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 13:25:09
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Originally posted by ryan93
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Originally posted by spade632
On Redden -
For the Whale he's played 51 Games - 5 G - 27 A and he's now sporting a 'stache to rival Parros' > http://cluster.leaguestat.com/download.php?client_code=ahl&file_path=img/players/3790.jpg&w=150
There was a semi-persistent rumour going around Ottawa that he had a particular fondness for a certain white powder. (I have absolutely no corroboration of that though).
Yeah, i heard the cocaine rumors as well.
C'mon Ryan, don't fuel the rumour! Clearly nothing was said about cocaine, rather Spade mentioned some sort of white powder. I read somewhere that he was just bored with hockey and was taking up baking!   |
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spade632
Rookie
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 19:35:02
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Originally posted by ryan93
Yeah, i heard the cocaine rumors as well.
Actually, I was talking to the bus driver about this on the way home tonight and he had heard the same - adding that he worked at a hotel that Redden and Emery liked to frequent in town. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 19:40:27
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Yeah, I've heard that cocaine rumor as well.
My sister's husband's cousin's best friend's doctor's manicurist told me that Redden totally bought coke off her maid's Uncle who did time in jail with Ricky, Julien, and Bubble's.
C'mon.
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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/26/2011 : 23:10:09
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Are the Canucks better off without Luongo as captain? It is a probable possibilityWhen is Wayne Gretzky going to resurface as a coach, GM, etc, in the NHL? He may re-enter the NHL with a job in the NHL as an advisor. His coach career should not be persuedWill Sheldon Souray ever play again in the NHL? YesWhat happened to Wade Redden? pass
Will Sidney Crosby ever be the same? (Think Pat Lafontaine.) I thought about this same thing yesterday. I believe Crosby's detirmination will keep him getting points, but he will become a concussion magnet.How is Ivanans doing since he was KO'd in the first game of the season?passCould we have another Sedin win the Art Ross Trophy this year? And maybe the Hart too? Very Likely on both.
Will the Stanley Cup champs miss the playoffs this season? I think so.Is Briane Burke nuts? (Okay - this is a bit off the wall, but did he actually say "if I tell you, I'll have to kill you" to a reporter?) He is a Nut job. passAnd lastly - will we ever see a dynasty again, or at the very least, back-to-back Stanley Cup Champs? The Canucks have a chance this year and next! If hockey lasts another 100 years this is a very likely thing.
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Edited by - Utemin on 02/26/2011 23:12:34 |
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 02/27/2011 : 08:18:37
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Originally posted by Beans15
Yeah, I've heard that cocaine rumor as well.
My sister's husband's cousin's best friend's doctor's manicurist told me that Redden totally bought coke off her maid's Uncle who did time in jail with Ricky, Julien, and Bubble's.
C'mon.
So you're saying her maid's uncle is Cyrus?
Seriously though, as I mentioned in my original post about Redden, I have absolutely no corroboration on this - but it's been a persistent (which, of course, doesn't make it correct) rumour. Then again, I try not to spread rumours around generally - at least damaging ones - speculating on trades is par for the course. Perhaps I should avoid it more assiduously. |
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