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Alex116
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Beans15
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 Posted - 07/12/2011 : 10:26:22
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Odd man out. With Horcoff signed long term and nearly a certain #1 or #2 centre, Gagner with better skill (but lesser speed) than Cogliano, and Hopkins waiting in the wings there is no room for a Cogliano.
I liked him last year and he really did his 3rd line role well. However, I don't think the Oilers miss him today or tomorrow. |
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Guest4312
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 10:30:08
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| with the rebuild in full effect the oilers might have been better off getting a second rounder for the upcoming 2012 draft rather than 2013 or a prospect that can jump in sooner than this player will be able to |
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 10:35:50
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Good pick-up for the Ducks third line, for pretty cheap. Adds to the depth in an aging Anaheim lineup (after their first line).
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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sahis34
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 20:38:45
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| good thing too, he's abysmal at face-offs, all his wins are mere tie ups which the other team takes back anyway, good riddance. |
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Guest9235
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Posted - 07/12/2011 : 22:41:34
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Originally posted by sahis34
good thing too, he's abysmal at face-offs, all his wins are mere tie ups which the other team takes back anyway, good riddance.
Outside of Horcoff, all the Oilers were bad at faceoffs |
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sahis34
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Posted - 07/13/2011 : 00:08:26
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Originally posted by Guest9235
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Originally posted by sahis34
good thing too, he's abysmal at face-offs, all his wins are mere tie ups which the other team takes back anyway, good riddance.
Outside of Horcoff, all the Oilers were bad at faceoffs
well belanger taking cogliano's spot at the dot will make the oilers respectable at faceoffs |
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Guest4178
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Posted - 07/13/2011 : 10:10:32
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I agree with Beans that the Oilers had no room for Cogliano, so the trade makes sense.
And I also agree with Guest 4312 that it would have been better to get a 2012 pick rather than a 2013 pick. (I suspect they tried though.)
Funny thing – an average 2nd round pick (middle of the pack) doesn't usually get you a player of Cogliano's ordinary stature. In fact, Cogliano would be a bit better than average for what you get around the middle of the second round.
However, there have been some very good mid-round picks in recent history, including: Matt Greene, Duncan Keith, Patrice Bergeron, Shea Weber, Paul Stastny, Milan Lucic, to name a few.
So the Oilers probably got the most they could for Cogliano, and if they can turn this pick into a decent NHL player, they end up looking like the winner of this trade, but who's going to remember this in 4-5 years, because it's rare for 2nd round picks to make an impact in the NHL (if at all) for 2-3 years after their draft year. |
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foolpittier
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Posted - 07/13/2011 : 13:16:50
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Guest6201
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Posted - 07/13/2011 : 13:41:31
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| Just my opinion here but i think the 2013 draft pick may have been intentional in order to try and trade for depth at the trade deadline that year. If the oilers expect a decent playoff run that year that is. |
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Guest4178
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Posted - 07/20/2011 : 13:43:06
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And about a week later, Cogliano signs a 3-year $7.17 deal with Anaheim. Wow – good for him!
I think they're paying too much for Cogliano, but one thing for sure – he never missed a game in his four seasons with the Oilers, so he's proven himself to be durable (or lucky).
Overall, I like Cogliano, but somewhere around $1.5 million a year seems reasonable for player of his ilk. He averaged around 36 points a season with the Oilers, and statistically his first two seasons (83 points) were better than his last two seasons (63 points). He's 24 years old, so there's room for improvement, but he took a step backward in his 3rd NHL season, and didn't rebound much in his 4th NHL season.
A change of scenery might be good for Cogliano, but I would be surprised to see more than 3rd line minutes from him with the Ducks, and if he tallied more than 45 points next season, I would be surprised. |
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Guest4178
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Posted - 07/20/2011 : 13:51:05
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| By the way, that's a $7.17 million 3-year deal. $7 and 17¢ would have been a helluva deal for Cogliano! :) |
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Kirby
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Posted - 07/22/2011 : 01:14:04
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Originally posted by Guest4178
And about a week later, Cogliano signs a 3-year $7.17 deal with Anaheim. Wow – good for him!
I think they're paying too much for Cogliano, but one thing for sure – he never missed a game in his four seasons with the Oilers, so he's proven himself to be durable (or lucky).
Overall, I like Cogliano, but somewhere around $1.5 million a year seems reasonable for player of his ilk. He averaged around 36 points a season with the Oilers, and statistically his first two seasons (83 points) were better than his last two seasons (63 points). He's 24 years old, so there's room for improvement, but he took a step backward in his 3rd NHL season, and didn't rebound much in his 4th NHL season.
A change of scenery might be good for Cogliano, but I would be surprised to see more than 3rd line minutes from him with the Ducks, and if he tallied more than 45 points next season, I would be surprised.
He's meant to be more of a 2 way forward down there. He is the replacement for Marchant, who was the exact same style of player lol
A good hockey player plays where the puck is. A great hockey player plays where the puck is going to be. -Wayne Gretzky |
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