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 Posted - 08/10/2011 : 05:06:29
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Poll Question:
Who is your #1 draft choice in your hockey pool this upcoming 2011/12 season?
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Guest4086
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Posted - 08/10/2011 : 05:14:23
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I'd pick Crosby for sure. his concussion from last season won't scare me at all, he'll be back and tearing it up once again.
the "other" person i'd consider taking is Malkin. he's put up 1st overall pick type numbers before , and is apparently primed for a bounce back season. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/10/2011 : 07:45:18
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As I have said in the past, the 1st round of picks is almost irrelevant. Generally speaking, there are about 15 players any given year that will lead the NHL. As long as you have one of those players, you will be fine. Especially in a snake draft as the players at end of one round will get two picks very quickly. So the guy picking 1st will get a 100 pt guys and a 70 pt guy in the first two rounds where a guy picking last in the round will get two 85 pt guys.
The point is moot.
To answer the question, I would most likely take Ovechkin. He is healthy, he had an off season last year (by his standards), and his image is important to him. I see him coming out this year and trying to prove something. Maybe a 120+ pt, 70 goal season???
If Crosby had come back in the playoffs last season it would be him, but there are still some question marks that take him from the top pick to still a 1st round pick but not #1. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/10/2011 : 07:58:30
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It depends on the scoring system of course, for this I'll assume 1 point for goals or assists, and no multipliers.
I would take OV, or one of the Sedin's. I agree with Beans, OV is going to come back strong this year I think. And I think both Sedin's are going to hit 100 points this season - they're really the only 3 that have a legitimate shot at 100 point seasons right now.
Crosby is still a wildcard, given that we don't know his status, I don't think he's a first overall pick this season. If he's not ready at training camp, I don't think he's a first round pick even. |
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Posted - 08/10/2011 : 08:03:23
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I also voted Ovechkin, Beans. Must be a full moon!
Past that, I would certainly take Crosby second, however.
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Alex116
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Posted - 08/10/2011 : 08:39:05
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Originally posted by Guest4086
the "other" person i'd consider taking is Malkin. he's put up 1st overall pick type numbers before , and is apparently primed for a bounce back season.
There's a 100% chance that i WON'T pick Malkin first overall. Can he win the scoring race? Sure, he "could". And he "might". But with his recent history, why in the world would you take him 1st overall??? Sure, if you absolutely love the guy and don't think you'll get him with your 2nd pick, you'd be stuck taking him, but that's not the way to win a hockey pool. This guy could slide to a 2nd round pick (in smaller pools) so why risk him as the top pick?
I too would prob go with OV, though admittedly, he's coming off an off year by his standards. I agree, he's got something to prove and should top 100 points easily this year! |
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MrBoogedy
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Posted - 08/17/2011 : 22:31:11
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| I think I'd take Stamkos before Ovechkin. He and St. Louis put up some impressive numbers and I think they're going to continue to do so, especially with Yzerman looking over things. Tampa is going to keep getting better, i see Stamkos at the top of the hill this year. |
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Posted - 08/18/2011 : 04:54:54
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Originally posted by MrBoogedy
I think I'd take Stamkos before Ovechkin. He and St. Louis put up some impressive numbers and I think they're going to continue to do so, especially with Yzerman looking over things. Tampa is going to keep getting better, i see Stamkos at the top of the hill this year.
That's quite interesting and against the grain, Boogedy man.
I would think Stamkos is looked upon by some - I am almost in this camp - as a guy who might suddenly look very ordinary again. Like, 60-75 points ordinary . . . good, but nothing spectacular in terms of point production.
I think it's quite possible, myself - still a bit unlikely, and I do think with a healthy St. Louis he gets his 35 goals, 45 assists for 80 points . . . but I honeslty don't see him getting over 40 goals this year, not with the way he ended the year.
But, you DID make me think about who I would take after Ovechkin and a half healthy Crosby . . . and my answer is Perry in a goal-heavy pool, Getzlaf in a straight up pool. Stamkos is near the bottom of my top ten, I think.
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MrBoogedy
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Posted - 08/18/2011 : 20:49:36
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| I may be putting too much faith in Yzerman, but i think he can really help Stamkos to reach his full potential, and as long as St' louis is skating beside him, i think he can do it. St. Louis can make anyone around him a great hockey player, he's one of the top playmakers in the league... well that goes without saying. He can make me look good and i don't even know how to skate. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 06:48:30
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If Steve Yzerman can help Stamkos improve from the GM chair, he might as well take over the entire NHL!! I can't see how a GM can directly help a player. TB did not add any pieces to their puzzle that would indicate that Stamkos should increase his production. The other point on Stamkos that is a little concerning to a poolie is how streakie he is. I took him in the first round of my draft last season at about the 10th spot and that is where he belongs. IMO, here would be my top 10 players. As a caveat, this is assuming all players are healthy from the start of the season.
Ovechkin
Crosby
D. Sedin
H. Sedin
Getlzaf
Perry
B.Richards
St. Louis
Stamkos
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 16:11:24
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| I'd be a little worried about taking Crosby with my 1st pick...if not for the concussion he would be my slam dunk 1st pick. I think i'd have to go with Alex Ovechkin, |
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ryan93
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Posted - 08/19/2011 : 16:14:19
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| And Beans brought up Ryan Getzlafs name. I think he's primed for a huge season. I think he'll be in the 100 point range this season if he stays healthy. |
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Leafs81
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Posted - 08/21/2011 : 07:51:29
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To answer the question Ovechkin, it's a safer pick then Crosby and he's bound for a rebound.
I find it interresting what Beans brought to the table with his top 10. To me B.Richards wouldn't be a first round pick for me. He's still really good but players often have a drop after signing a big contract with a new team. Nobody brought the name of Backstrom because we were talking first overall and Ovechkin will always overshadow him, but I would definitly have Backstrom in my top 10.
This is making me think that like 3 seasons ago we did a keeper where you can keep 5 players and I have Ovechkin, Backstrom and Getzlaf. 3 in my top 10, |
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/21/2011 : 14:14:20
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I would put Backsrtom in my top 15 but not my top 10. Reason being is that he did not pick up his production when Ovechkin started to turn it on last season. Although, he is a talented player I would not want to take him to early and leave someone else on the table. Frankly, I expect a few of the people I draft with to have very short term memories which will give me a crack at him early in the 2nd round.
However, I sure wouldn't complain about having Ovechkin, Getzlaf, and Backstrom in a keeper league. That's a decade of production ahead of you. Nicely done!! |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 08/21/2011 : 17:31:35
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Geztlaf this year is going to be his year when he steps up and out of that category of top 10 centers in the league and into the number 1 center in the leagues spot, just a feeling of course but i'm betting on 115 points from him this coming season!
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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Guest4271
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Posted - 08/21/2011 : 20:24:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
If Steve Yzerman can help Stamkos improve from the GM chair, he might as well take over the entire NHL!! I can't see how a GM can directly help a player. TB did not add any pieces to their puzzle that would indicate that Stamkos should increase his production. The other point on Stamkos that is a little concerning to a poolie is how streakie he is. I took him in the first round of my draft last season at about the 10th spot and that is where he belongs. IMO, here would be my top 10 players. As a caveat, this is assuming all players are healthy from the start of the season.
I think a good GM can make a difference to the individual players, just as a bad GM can have a negative affect. Bob Gainey was very involved with the players when he was the GM in Montreal, granted he did do double duty coaching as well one season. But even after he passed the reigns on to Carboneau he was still involved with the players bench.
I'm not saying Yzermman is going to be that kind on a GM, but with his hockey sense I can see him doing whatever it takes to help his players ( any GM would obviously, but I think Yzerman brings more to the table with all of his experience. |
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MrBoogedy
Rookie
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Posted - 08/21/2011 : 21:07:30
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