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willus3
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Posted - 05/13/2007 :  08:19:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bossy is one of, if not the best, goal scorer(s) of all time. If his back injury had not forced him to retire at 30, where do you think he would have ended up for all time goals? Is it possible he would have ended up with more than Gretzky?
Here are his stats for easy reference.
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts
1977-78 New York Islanders NHL 73 53 38 91
1978-79 New York Islanders NHL 80 69 57 126
1979-80 New York Islanders NHL 75 51 41 92
1980-81 New York Islanders NHL 79 68 51 119
1981-82 New York Islanders NHL 80 64 83 147
1982-83 New York Islanders NHL 79 60 58 118
1983-84 New York Islanders NHL 67 51 67 118
1984-85 New York Islanders NHL 76 58 59 117
1985-86 New York Islanders NHL 80 61 62 123
1986-87 New York Islanders NHL 63 38 37 75
NHL Totals 752 573 553 1126

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Edited by - willus3 on 05/13/2007 08:22:13

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Posted - 05/13/2007 :  16:53:31  Reply with Quote
Possibly, but since we're dealing with hypotheticals, what if Gretzky had not had the back injury in 1991 from Suter. Gretzky's goal (and point) production took an immediate dive after that hit. He could have finished with a 1000 goals (and well over 3000 points) easily, and beaten Bossy regardless.
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willus3
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Posted - 05/13/2007 :  16:58:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest9910

Possibly, but since we're dealing with hypotheticals, what if Gretzky had not had the back injury in 1991 from Suter. Gretzky's goal (and point) production took an immediate dive after that hit. He could have finished with a 1000 goals (and well over 3000 points) easily, and beaten Bossy regardless.


This isn't a bash Gretzky thread so please don't take it that way. I mentioned Gretzky's goal total because that is the total to beat.
So how about this then, would Bossy have surpassed Howe's mark?

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Posted - 05/13/2007 :  18:42:16  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by willus3

quote:
Originally posted by Guest9910

Possibly, but since we're dealing with hypotheticals, what if Gretzky had not had the back injury in 1991 from Suter. Gretzky's goal (and point) production took an immediate dive after that hit. He could have finished with a 1000 goals (and well over 3000 points) easily, and beaten Bossy regardless.


This isn't a bash Gretzky thread so please don't take it that way. I mentioned Gretzky's goal total because that is the total to beat.
So how about this then, would Bossy have surpassed Howe's mark?

"You are not your desktop wallpaper"


I never took it as bash Gretzky thread. It's just when dealing with hypotheticals, it opens up every other hypothetical as well, and we must be prepared to entertain those just as valiently, wouldn't you agree?
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willus3
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Posted - 05/13/2007 :  19:09:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest9910

quote:
Originally posted by willus3

quote:
Originally posted by Guest9910

Possibly, but since we're dealing with hypotheticals, what if Gretzky had not had the back injury in 1991 from Suter. Gretzky's goal (and point) production took an immediate dive after that hit. He could have finished with a 1000 goals (and well over 3000 points) easily, and beaten Bossy regardless.


This isn't a bash Gretzky thread so please don't take it that way. I mentioned Gretzky's goal total because that is the total to beat.
So how about this then, would Bossy have surpassed Howe's mark?

"You are not your desktop wallpaper"


I never took it as bash Gretzky thread. It's just when dealing with hypotheticals, it opens up every other hypothetical as well, and we must be prepared to entertain those just as valiently, wouldn't you agree?


Absolutely. In another thread. This one is about Bossy.

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Guest9910
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Posted - 05/13/2007 :  20:11:32  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by willus3

quote:
Originally posted by Guest9910

quote:
Originally posted by willus3

quote:
Originally posted by Guest9910

Possibly, but since we're dealing with hypotheticals, what if Gretzky had not had the back injury in 1991 from Suter. Gretzky's goal (and point) production took an immediate dive after that hit. He could have finished with a 1000 goals (and well over 3000 points) easily, and beaten Bossy regardless.


This isn't a bash Gretzky thread so please don't take it that way. I mentioned Gretzky's goal total because that is the total to beat.
So how about this then, would Bossy have surpassed Howe's mark?

"You are not your desktop wallpaper"


I never took it as bash Gretzky thread. It's just when dealing with hypotheticals, it opens up every other hypothetical as well, and we must be prepared to entertain those just as valiently, wouldn't you agree?


Absolutely. In another thread. This one is about Bossy.

"You are not your desktop wallpaper"


Then I would say, no, Bossy would not have scored more than 894 goals. Why? Let's assume Bossy retired at 38 just like Gretzky (let's give him the benefit of the doubt). Even if Bossy could manage to average 40 goals per year from ages 31 to 38, he would still end up with 893 goals, just shy of Gretzky's mark.

But the real answer as to why not is simple: I think he would have been injured by age 31 if he hadn't been injured at 30.
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