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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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 Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:32:20
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Yeah. But if I'm the coach, I take a non-injury proned player over an injury-proned one.
I don't care who is better when healthy. The season lasts 82 games, not 14, then take a 10 game break, than another 51, then a 2 game break...
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 12/02/2007 : 18:33:29
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Nash, when healthy is way better than Sanderson.
GO PREDATORS GO |
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 07:10:26
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Can't believe the LEafs fans haven't put one out yet . . . here goes:
W - Sittler (75-81)
C - Gilmour (92-94)
W - Sundin (96/97, 01- present)
D - Salming (75-80)
D - Yushkevich (98-99)
G - Belfour (02-04)
It was tough, but I had to give the nod to the newer generation of players over HOF guys like Keon and Horton - I feel they couldn't have skated/competed against the bigger, stronger, faster players of the new era. I love the tough, gritty first line - with Sundin as the "softest" player there, no one could push them around. |
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Guest8372
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Posted - 12/03/2007 : 09:42:03
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Originally posted by slozo
Can't believe the LEafs fans haven't put one out yet . . . here goes:
W - Sittler (75-81)
C - Gilmour (92-94)
W - Sundin (96/97, 01- present)
D - Salming (75-80)
D - Yushkevich (98-99)
G - Belfour (02-04)
I can accept it if you are going to use more current players (barely). But are you crazy? Yushkevich over Leetch or Schneider? I'd even take Iafrate and his injury proneness and booming shot over Yushkevich. And I'm not even a Leafs fan. |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 12:12:00
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Originally posted by Alex
all time?
nash's best season vs sandersons?
Kipper for Lundqvist?
I can't say agree but it's your team. The only reall way we can test this is to play agma eagainst eachother.
I still say Nash, I'll get back with some stats.
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LeafsFan4Life
Top Prospect
Canada
65 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 12:31:03
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Darryl Sittler C
George Armstrong RW
Frank Mahovlich LW
Borje Salming D
Red Kelly D
Jacques Plante G
that would be my leafs best lineup in my opinion
Long Live Hockey |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 12:44:22
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Actually looking at the stats, they favor Nash.
Nash: 0.73 ppg in his first 4 seasons.
Sanderson: 0.79 ppg in his first 4 seasons.
Stats don't prove everything, Nash is playing basically by himself while Sanderson played with Brendan Shanahn Ron Francis and Pat Verbeek.
Ellis or Mason?
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 14:57:02
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Originally posted by nashvillepreds
Actually looking at the stats, they favor Nash.
Nash: 0.73 ppg in his first 4 seasons.
Sanderson: 0.79 ppg in his first 4 seasons.
Stats don't prove everything, Nash is playing basically by himself while Sanderson played with Brendan Shanahn Ron Francis and Pat Verbeek.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go!
Um, the stats you brought favour Sanderson! Plus you already have the finisher in Federov. Nash would be a waste if you ask me...
Habs get number 25 this year |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 15:00:44
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Federov, a finisher? Are you kidding? The guy has 5 goals.
Nash won the richard as a sophmore
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
Edited by - nashvillepreds on 12/03/2007 15:00:55 |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 15:04:06
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Than add him instead of Sanderson and the whole thing is fixed.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 15:05:40
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Would you put Sanderson on instead of Whitney though?
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2007 : 15:12:54
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Also Alex, for the Wild, what about Kimmy Johnson instead of Carney?
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
877 Posts |
Posted - 12/06/2007 : 18:54:12
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Habs ...
Guy Lafleur-Joe Malone(controversial..yes i know)-Maurice Richard
Doug Harvey-Larry Robinson
Patrick Roy(although alot of goalies are great and any could be here) |
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Greg Smith
Rookie
Canada
158 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2007 : 12:51:34
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Originally posted by Antroman
Sorry Greg, You were my next choice. I should be sent to the glue factory for not giving you an honorable mention as well.
Ha, Antroman. Why would you pick me? I wasn't even that good. The guys you picked were ten times better than me. Don't sweat it, I didn't deserve it. |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 12/07/2007 : 13:56:05
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Originally posted by slozo
Can't believe the LEafs fans haven't put one out yet . . . here goes:
W - Sittler (75-81)
C - Gilmour (92-94)
W - Sundin (96/97, 01- present)
D - Salming (75-80)
D - Yushkevich (98-99)
G - Belfour (02-04)
It was tough, but I had to give the nod to the newer generation of players over HOF guys like Keon and Horton - I feel they couldn't have skated/competed against the bigger, stronger, faster players of the new era. I love the tough, gritty first line - with Sundin as the "softest" player there, no one could push them around.
Keon and Horton couldn't skate with the guys you chose? Please tell me you are joking.
You do understand that Tim Horton is quite possibly the strongest player to EVER play for the Leafs?
Keon was a fantastic skater and ferocious forechecker and competitor. Again, please tell me you were joking.
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore |
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wyntyre
Rookie
Canada
185 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2007 : 14:50:43
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Central Red Army
Sergei Makarov-F
Igor Larionov-F
Vladimir Krutov-F...although the tank sucked in Vcr
Vyacheslav Fetisov-D
Alexei Kasatonov-D
Irbe-G...barely played for them....but I like Tretiak
Flames
Sergei Makarov-F
Theoren Fleury-F
Joe Nieuwendyk-F
Al MacInnis-D
Phil Housley-D
Pat Riggin-G....probably should be Mike Vernon but he always scared me
San Jose Sharks
Sergei Makarov-F
Igor Larionov-F
Teemu Selanne-F
Sandis Ozolinsh-D
Gary Suter-D
Arturs Irbe-G
Can't go...The Roads Are Dirty |
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karacter
Top Prospect
20 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2007 : 14:41:55
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ducks
selanne
getzlaf
kariya
pronger
neidermeyer
giguere
huh...all we are missing currently is that bitch kariya |
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Ottawa Oilers
Rookie
150 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2007 : 14:46:36
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Originally posted by nashvillepreds
Use your teams best players in their history and make an all-star line. I'll go first.
Peter Forsberg- F
Paul Kariya- F
Steve Sullivan- F
Kimmo Timonen- D
Marek Zidlicky- D
Thomas Vokoun- G
Players can be retired or still playing today.
GO PREDATORS GO
I would put Legwand up there, Preds all-time leading scorer. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 12/09/2007 : 15:25:56
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quote:
Originally posted by slozo
Can't believe the LEafs fans haven't put one out yet . . . here goes:
W - Sittler (75-81)
C - Gilmour (92-94)
W - Sundin (96/97, 01- present)
D - Salming (75-80)
D - Yushkevich (98-99)
G - Belfour (02-04)
It was tough, but I had to give the nod to the newer generation of players over HOF guys like Keon and Horton - I feel they couldn't have skated/competed against the bigger, stronger, faster players of the new era. I love the tough, gritty first line - with Sundin as the "softest" player there, no one could push them around.
LOL, Yushkevich. He doesn't deserve to be on any all time list, especially the Leafs. I'm young, so no piont of me putting an all time list together. I'll side with Pucknuts' list ;). |
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Guest7007
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Posted - 12/09/2007 : 18:09:28
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Originally posted by wyntyre
Central Red Army
Sergei Makarov-F
Igor Larionov-F
Vladimir Krutov-F...although the tank sucked in Vcr
Vyacheslav Fetisov-D
Alexei Kasatonov-D
Irbe-G...barely played for them....but I like Tretiak
I think you just showed your age. As individual players, Kharmalov should definitely be there, however since the Russians play as a single unit, KLM is a damn good line. |
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kingwoody2
Top Prospect
72 Posts |
Posted - 12/10/2007 : 05:45:34
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ill put out the devils
Maclean
Elias
Shanahan
Stevens
Niedermeyer
Brodeur
I went for all time great Devils. Who cares if someone great like an Alexander Mogilny played 20 games for them. If Gretzky played 1 game for them i still wouldnt pick him. |
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Guest8372
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Posted - 12/10/2007 : 07:15:12
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Originally posted by kingwoody2
ill put out the devils
I went for all time great Devils. Who cares if someone great like an Alexander Mogilny played 20 games for them. If Gretzky played 1 game for them i still wouldnt pick him.
Mogilny played 120 games (regular season) for them. That's a season and a half (over 40 in the playoffs). He was one of the key cogs that took them to the finals in 00-01 when they lost to Colorado. |
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LeafsFan4Life
Top Prospect
Canada
65 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 14:53:35
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i just did not put on keon because i would not want the curse to come back lol
Long Live Hockey |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 17:02:45
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Originally posted by LeafsFan4Life
i just did not put on keon because i would not want the curse to come back lol
Long Live Hockey
And Sundin? Don't back down from this one LF4L, he is the best Leaf stats wise ever.
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Posted - 12/14/2007 : 06:16:13
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C'mon, guys. Ask any of the older hockey players from the eras of the 70s and before . . . they will tell you: There is no way we could skate or compete with today's players. NO WAY. I Guy Lafleur talking about this once, as he was being asked about new stars like Selanne and Kariya - and he answered truthfully, "There is no way, even when I was at my fastest, that I could keep up with those guys." I've heard it over, and over again about how great these old players were - IN THEIR TIME.
But in today's NHL, where they wear what amounts to hard core body armour, where the average player size is 2 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier, where fantastic training regimens and performance enhancing drugs make them twice as fit - you just can't compare. ASK the old guys, if you really want to know.
Leave Jacques Plante and Mahovolich be, they were great in their day. Put Keon up in the rafters, let the banner wave around. Remember the greatness of Horton. But don't tell me they could compete with today's players.
Guest8372 - I will take your Iafrate comment, an argument can surely be made for him. But I was thinking TEAM, not individual stats - Yushkevich would put his face in front of a puck to prevent a shot going through, and would crush you into the boards later for it. (I only listed that one year for him, remember)
Two offensive defencemen don't work well together usually.
Willus3 - No joke, no Keon, no Horton. Yes, Horton was strong - he also would'a been gasping for breath at his blue line as Gilmour and Sittler were streaking to the net. Different era, dude. Keon? He'd be a smear on the ice after a few real checks from the players of today.
Wyntyre - Irbe is Latvian, you imperialist commie. Latvia was an independant country from 1921-1941, before the krauts, then the slavs came by. After the fall of the Berlin Wall, they are free again. Irbe may have played for Moscow Dynamo, but only because he HAD to, situationally.
Leafsfan101 - I stand by my Yushkevich pick. I pick the players to fit together as a team, knowing they will play against another team's greats. To have a chance against the Bossy's, Gretzky's and Jagrs of the NHL, the Leafs would have to go HARD CORE GRIT.
Leafs in 7.
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Guest4086
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Posted - 12/14/2007 : 06:25:58
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As far as the Leafs go I like:
Sittler
Sundin
Mogilny
Horton
Leetch
Plante
I'll admit to have considered Babe Dye and Charlie Conacher too, but I don't know if there's anyone alive and on this forum who's seen them play! |
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