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Beans15
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Posted - 02/04/2010 :  22:53:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Interesting situations in Edmonton with Sheldon Souray in recent weeks. First, he states he would waive his no trade clause if it was going to help the Oilers. Then, he apparently gives a list of teams to the Oilers as to where he would like to go. Then he has a quick two step with Jarome Iginla and does some damages to his hand. He gets surgery on said hand and is going to be available with around 3 weeks left in the regular season and then obviously playoffs. Today, it the list of teams was reported to the media(see below).

The question is, will Souray be traded before the deadline and if so, to which team will he get traded??

Choices:

Nope- Not worth the Risk, too many injuries and too expensive for a big shot
Yes - to the Rangers
Yes - to the Flyers
Yes - to the Capitals
Yes - to the Stars
Yes - to the Kings
Yes to the Ducks
Yes - to the ????(insert your team here)

Alex116
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  00:01:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I said no, only because of his injury. If a team trades for him at the deadline and there's any sort of complication in his surgery or his recovery, this season will be done for him. I actually read somewhere that said he was out for the year? It's not so much the money as i think some teams could squeeze him into their cap but moreso the current injury. It's not often an injured player gets moved.
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Canucks Man
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  01:18:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I said yes to the ??? because I do believe a team will take a chance on him, but I'm not sure which one, Alex, I heard that Sourays surgery went very well, and he will be back in the middle of march.

CANUCKS RULE!!!
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ryan93
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  05:43:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What's left on Souray's contract after this season? 1 more year? 2 more?

Had this been the last year of Souray's contract, i'd like to see the Rangers make a push. They could definitely use another veteran presence on the blueline. But that's a pretty big contract for a guy who's having a down year, and now you have the injury on top of that. I'm praying the Rangers stay away...unless the Oilers would be willing to take another bad contract in return, ala Michael Rozsival, Chris Drury, of the king of all bad deals, Wade Redden...that of course won't happen though :(
I think he will be traded, but i can't see the Oilers getting a great deal in return.

Edited by - ryan93 on 02/05/2010 05:47:03
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  07:36:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Souray signed a 5 year deal. The first 2 years was $6.25 million each. The third year(this year) is $5.5 million. The next 2 years is $4.5 million and he is a UFA after the 11/12 season. Cap hit is $5.4 million.
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HawkinOilCountry
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  09:01:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at the list I think Edmonton's best bet is a deal with Dallas. I'm not sure why I feel that way, call it gut instinct.

I'm saying he's either going to Dallas or going nowhere.

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ryan93
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  09:32:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know, not sure i see a fit in Dallas though. They are talking about trying to trim payroll by dropping a salary or two. $5.4 million for a defensemen who's having the kind of season Souray is, on top his wrist issues, it might be a hard sell for the Oilers. That said, there's bound to a taker.
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Hugh G. Rection
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  09:42:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only way Edmonton makes this happen is if they take a terrible contract back in return. WIth his contract hit, he simply isn't worth it, even though he would improve almost any PP in the league. Edmonton will be looking to trim payroll and most teams cant absorb the contract, so I don't see this deal happening unless a contender suffers some massive injuries to their D core and become desparate.
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baumer
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  10:57:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went with The Ducks...The playoffs are paramount to that organization and their back end is prety weak. Neidermeyer is probably 50/50 at best to return next year so Souray is a decent replacement if that's the case. I really can't see the Caps taking Ovechkin off the point on the PP in favour of Souray. The Stars are trying to cut salary as are the Flyers so Edmonton would have to take back money in order to unload him. And the Rangers might happen if they can un load Redden and his ridiculous contract but that would make Sather a miracle worker. The Kings are a possibility but they have a pretty decent group of defencemen and I don't know if they would want to interrupt that.

Edited by - baumer on 02/05/2010 10:59:33
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  15:05:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by baumer

I went with The Ducks...The playoffs are paramount to that organization and their back end is prety weak. Neidermeyer is probably 50/50 at best to return next year so Souray is a decent replacement if that's the case. I really can't see the Caps taking Ovechkin off the point on the PP in favour of Souray. The Stars are trying to cut salary as are the Flyers so Edmonton would have to take back money in order to unload him. And the Rangers might happen if they can un load Redden and his ridiculous contract but that would make Sather a miracle worker. The Kings are a possibility but they have a pretty decent group of defencemen and I don't know if they would want to interrupt that.



I thought the Flyers were in the Kovalchuk sweepstakes? Can't be trying to trim payroll that much, unless maybe they were only planning on hiim being a rental??? Guess that would make sense? As for the Kings, i don't see it. They've got some good young guys back there that are getting better very quickly!
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Guest7113
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  15:43:37  Reply with Quote
If the Oil wait until the off-season, too, they don't have to abide by his list of acceptable teams. Even Boston (although geographically farther) would be an upgrade for Souray in terms of travel time to visit his family, because he wouldn't have to clear US customs. His salary:cap hit ratio might be attractive to budget teams in the off-season. If a team has the cap but sees that they can save a mil or so in actual paid-out salary, that might be a good trade-off for accepting a defenseman who's been somewhat fragile in the past year or so.

His shot isn't his only asset, and he'd be really valuable on a team with young players that doesn't need to rebuild like the Oilers do. I kind of expected him to land in Toronto before the Phaneuf deal went down.
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Guest7113
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  15:44:39  Reply with Quote
I guess you guys want an answer to the question that was asked. I'm going with the Ducks. I think they should make a bigger playoff run than their regular season suggests is possible.
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/05/2010 :  20:12:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the thing with Souray, he is total risk rewards. The risk is that he has been inconsistant with his ability to play due to injuries. Wrists, shoulder, concussion, and now hand.

However, when he is health for an entire season, he is good for 50-60 points and 10-15(as high ast 19) PP goals. That in itself is value at the NHL level for any team.

However, the salary level is not too bad for the next 2 seasons, but the cap hit is still pretty high.

I doubt he goes anywhere.
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