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| nashvillepreds |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 14:58:27
Who is the league's best ACTIVE defenseman? |
| 40 L A T E S T R E P L I E S (Newest First) |
| Utemin |
Posted - 11/27/2010 : 18:09:00
) quote:
Originally posted by Awesome One
At that point it would be Lidstrom by a landslide.
Now I'd say that it's Green.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".
I agree with the lindstrom choice 3 years ago Maybe Chara, But in no way is Mike Green the best defenseman in the league. (this comes from the guy who smells Mike Greens Jock Strap ) Mike Green is the best offensivley but because his hitting abillity is no where near Webers and his shot is worse Weber is the better defenseman. I still hope Mike Green wins the Norris this year.
The Monkey is me |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 11/27/2010 : 17:22:06
quote:
Originally posted by Awesome One
What was Richard's problem with Subban again?
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".
Apparently doesn't think Subban respects the older players in the league. I guess Subban talks some trash and Richards doesn't think rookies should be doing so? Something along those lines i think..... |
| Awesome One |
Posted - 11/27/2010 : 17:14:26
quote:
Originally posted by Alex116
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4550
P.K subban for canadians he is doing good and i think this migth be his rookie season.
Go Habs go
Well, i know one thing for sure. Guest 4550 IS NOT Mike Richards! 
What was Richard's problem with Subban again?
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 11/27/2010 : 16:53:54
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4550
P.K subban for canadians he is doing good and i think this migth be his rookie season.
Go Habs go
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Well, i know one thing for sure. Guest 4550 IS NOT Mike Richards! |
| Guest4139 |
Posted - 11/27/2010 : 15:12:31
drew doughty |
| Guest4550 |
Posted - 11/27/2010 : 08:41:51
P.K subban for canadians he is doing good and i think this migth be his rookie season.
Go Habs go |
| Awesome One |
Posted - 11/26/2010 : 15:13:38
At that point it would be Lidstrom by a landslide.
Now I'd say that it's Green.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
| hockeyrocks101 |
Posted - 11/26/2010 : 15:09:59
oops my mistake.... i would say 3 years ago it was Lidstrom. |
| Awesome One |
Posted - 11/24/2010 : 06:23:33
quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan
probably because this poll was created in 2007.... where was Subban then?
I don't even think he was established in juniors yet.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 11/23/2010 : 18:53:19
probably because this poll was created in 2007.... where was Subban then? |
| Utemin |
Posted - 11/23/2010 : 17:35:08
WHY ISNT PK SUBBAN ON THE LIST
IM COMPLAINING
WHY ISNT EKMAN LARRSON ON THE LIST IM GOING SUICIDE
The Monkey is me |
| Awesome One |
Posted - 11/23/2010 : 16:40:42
quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan
These old thread are funny...
quote:
Phaneuf is more defensive than lidstrom is
I almost spilled coffee on myself
Ya, old threads are the best!
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 11/23/2010 : 09:33:30
These old thread are funny...
quote:
Phaneuf is more defensive than lidstrom is
I almost spilled coffee on myself |
| Awesome One |
Posted - 11/23/2010 : 06:14:39
quote:
Originally posted by hockeyrocks101
Are you kidding me.... Drew Doughty and Duncan Kieth are 1 million times better than Souray, Kabrle and Phaneuf.
You do realize that this poll was made three years ago, and one year before Doughty was in the NHL.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
| hockeyrocks101 |
Posted - 11/22/2010 : 17:34:05
Are you kidding me.... Drew Doughty and Duncan Kieth are 1 million times better than Souray, Kabrle and Phaneuf. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 06/14/2010 : 06:57:03
Dion Phaneuf?? That's funny.
Even the players agree he is highly overrated. In fact, this story says that of the 272 NHL players polled, Phaneuf was the most overrated player by a landslide. He received 21% of the vote and the next closest player(Wade Redden) got 7% of the vote.
Dion Phaneuf can hit and has a decent shot. Outside of that, he's really not that good at anything.
Ultimately, he is Sheldon Souray with a bit more mobility.
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/postedsports/archive/2010/03/30/leafs-phaneuf-voted-nhl-s-most-over-rated.aspx |
| Jumbo Joe Rocks |
Posted - 06/13/2010 : 17:52:20
Phaneuf easily he does everything
RE-SIGN PATTY |
| Guest9774 |
Posted - 06/13/2010 : 06:01:58
DUNCAN KEITH IS A BEAST |
| irvine |
Posted - 06/04/2010 : 19:03:58
My All-Time Favorite is Raymond Bourque. (My all-time favorite player, of any position)
Current top 5 D-men in the NHL:
1. Nicklas Lidstrom
2. Scott Neidermayer
3. Chris Pronger
4. Zdeno Chara
The fifth spot, could be any of:
Duncan Keith, Rob Blake or Brian Rafalski
Those are my personal top 4 (of overall skill, over a period of atleast 3 years) and my #5 tie.
Irvine/prez. |
| Deaner |
Posted - 06/04/2010 : 15:51:47
Voted pronger but im thinking Phaneuf in a few more years....Lidstrom was a close second |
| Datsyuk 1 |
Posted - 03/03/2008 : 20:32:19
Hey why isn't Chara on the list he has been scoring goals, dropping the gloves, great plus minus and pretty close too Lidstrom. Although Lid got my vote.
Good defense is good offense! |
| PuckNuts |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 10:40:49
quote:
Originally posted by Guest5448
Scott Niedermeyer - why isn't he on the list? Talk about an impact player.
This topic started back in October of 2007, Niedermayer was not playing in the NHL at the time...
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| Guest5448 |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 10:13:08
Scott Niedermeyer - why isn't he on the list? Talk about an impact player. |
| ThorntonisTHEMAN |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 07:34:17
completely agree with Slozo. i would vote for Jay Boewmeester before Kaberle. but Lidstrom. no contest.
"I'm not dumb enough to be a goalie."
Brett Hull. |
| n/a |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 07:28:55
Lidstrom by a fair margin, although Pronger is more effective physically (the non-stats component).
Please though - for the sake of validity for this poll - take down Kaberle's name and the 101 retarded Leafs fans who voted for him. It's a ridiculous joke to have him on the list, and shames every thinking Leaf fan out there. Replace him with Rafalski or Redden please.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Guest2159 |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 22:32:35
Lindstrom by far is the man. I think he could do a better job than Hasek in net!
GO WINGS GO |
| Guest2905 |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 10:48:54
I think that Brian Rafalski is hes racked up 4 points already this week and hes a good leader too |
| Leafsgirl 48 |
Posted - 10/21/2007 : 07:15:32
Lidstrom is still the best defenceman in the league. His leadership skills along with his playing ability, makes him the perfect defenceman for any team in the NHL.
Leafs Rule!!!!!!! |
| Guest9657 |
Posted - 10/20/2007 : 11:41:38
phaneuf?? umm definately not -calgary appears unable to rely on defense at all this year with him...im not sure he should be on this list yet -as for lidstrom, career numbers excellent yes but best right now? possibly...or redden |
| Guest8437 |
Posted - 10/20/2007 : 11:05:15
How is Souray on that list? He wouldn't be top 10. save some embarasment and plug Bouwmeester in. |
| leafsfan_101 |
Posted - 10/20/2007 : 09:18:24
Lidstrom has to be considered the best. He has so many dimensions that every night it is lik facing a new defenseman. he blocks shots, scores goals, can handle the puck and can play a physical game when he wants to. He gets my vote. |
| Guest6798 |
Posted - 10/20/2007 : 07:18:25
It is absolutely embarassing that Souray is even on this list. He's easily one of the worst "defensive" defencemen in the whole league. A complete pilon in his own end.
He's got a hard shot. I'll give him that. |
| Guest4724 |
Posted - 10/20/2007 : 06:30:10
Lidstrom by far no one else is in his league right now there is a lot of good young defenceman including phanuef but he isnt there yet remember brewer. Norstrom good malliky redden phillips etc |
| fly4apuckguy |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 18:09:40
Lidstrom. But Phaneuf is coming. |
| Guest4006 |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 14:08:00
quote:
Originally posted by Guest9147
I think that Anton Volchenkov should be in that list. He was top shot blocker in 06-07 at only 24 years of age and he is a definate contender again this year. Every year his game has improved and i believe he is on his way to be one of the league's best defencemen.
There is no way Anton Volchenkov should be in the same list as players like Lidstrom, Pronger and Niedermayer. |
| nashvillepreds |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 13:00:20
quote:
Originally posted by Guest9147
I think that Anton Volchenkov should be in that list. He was top shot blocker in 06-07 at only 24 years of age and he is a definate contender again this year. Every year his game has improved and i believe he is on his way to be one of the league's best defencemen.
I've seen him play a lot and blocking shots is all he's really amazing at
GO PREDATORS GO |
| Guest9147 |
Posted - 10/19/2007 : 11:13:50
I think that Anton Volchenkov should be in that list. He was top shot blocker in 06-07 at only 24 years of age and he is a definate contender again this year. Every year his game has improved and i believe he is on his way to be one of the league's best defencemen. |
| Beans15 |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 21:18:44
With Neidermayer not playing right now, the only guy that is even close to Lidstrom is Pronger, and he's not even that close.
Think about this, there are only three players with the same or more Norris Trophies than Lidstrom. Being in the company of Harvey, Bourque, and Orr is pretty special. He's won it 6 out of the last 7 years it has been awarded and had been nominated 8 of the last 9 seasons. That means he is voted as one of the top 3 defensemen for almost a decade.
Looking at Pronger, Neidermayer and Lidstrom, the unwritten three best d-men in the past 5 seasons, the numbers are not even close.
Lidstrom - 401games - 66 goals -235 assists - 301 points +133
Pronger - 309 games - 47 goals - 220 assosts - 267 points +51
Neidermayer - 399 games - 64 goals - 194 assists - 257 points + 69
Even this year, Lidstrom has 5 points in 5 games and is +5 while averaging the 3rd most minutes in the league.
To me that shows no signs that he can't keep up with the league. He will retire when he feels like it, which may be soon. But he could play into his 40's and still be effective.
Where's Phaneuf in this?? Not even in the same ball park. With all due respect, if you think Phaneuf has a defensive edge on Lidstrom, you must think that Defense is hitting. That is about the only thing that Phaneuf has on Lidstrom.
Phaneuf will be lucky if he ever gets to Lidstrom's level.
If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997. |
| Azeman |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 20:07:04
Nick Lidstrom is just the best ACTIVE player playing, hes probably one of the best defense that ever played the game ( except maybe orr and bourque, as much of a wings fan i am they were good D in their days)
GO WINGS GO!!!! |
| Guest9686 |
Posted - 10/18/2007 : 19:22:26
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
Niklas Lidstrom is just plain good. 62 points and over +40 while killing most penalty's. He's the best Active defenceman by far,
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