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Posted - 01/27/2011 : 17:56:09
Garth Snow has suspended Evgeni Nabokov for not reporting to the club after being claimed off of waivers. Should the Islanders have suspended him? |
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| Guest4278 |
Posted - 02/06/2011 : 17:58:15
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Originally posted by Guest4843
in my opinion, if a guy decides to return to the NHL and no one has rights to him, he should be able to make a deal with any team he wants
Of course he can make a deal wih any team he wants. He did with the Wings. Unfortunate for him he decided to play in the KHL prior to dealing with the Wings so.... The Isle picked him up on waivers (oh yeah that thing).
It didn't matter who he dealt with, by playing in the KHL, the Isles were able to pick him up on waivers. Notice that no team and not even the Players Union is even backing him up on this. Point finale. |
| Utemin |
Posted - 02/06/2011 : 17:37:19
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4843
in my opinion, if a guy decides to return to the NHL and no one has rights to him, he should be able to make a deal with any team he wants
His agent was dumb and said he would report to anyteam that signed him, probably because Nabby's words got misunderstood by his agent. Nabby is the best but not even I can make an Argument.
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| Guest4843 |
Posted - 02/06/2011 : 10:37:31
in my opinion, if a guy decides to return to the NHL and no one has rights to him, he should be able to make a deal with any team he wants |
| JonPolley |
Posted - 02/05/2011 : 21:01:04
screw that noise, there is no justification that will confince me that he has "earned" to sign with someone else. He left, simple as that. You can't just come back from another league and demand to be put on a team that you like. You go through the process same as everyone else.. so Nabby.. suck it up princess. Be a man and pay your dues again and then go where you want. The Isles could really use you right now.. that should count for something. Play the rest of the season, give the team a respectable end to the season, play your guts out and prove to the next team that you want to go to that your aren't the whiny baby that you are being right now. |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 08:24:02
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Swallow your inflated pride, Nabby, play a month or two with the Islanders, then sign with whoever you want next season . . .
The problem with that method though, its more difficult to pick a winner in the summer.  |
| Guest1747 |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 06:33:34
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Originally posted by Guest5958
I don't care if its pro sports talk for "I'm a baby pink elephant" and I don't care if he was told to say it by the Queen of England. My point was you've called him whiny and then said he keeps complaining, but there is zero evidence of him saying anything that can be construed as complaining whatsoever. So my point was that your claims were baseless.
I never said that the rules shouldn't apply to Nabokov. I said he was well within his rights to decide not to report to the Islanders, that I agree with his decision, and that there is no reason to deride him for making that decision.
You said that players that go through the waiver wire should be grateful just for the chance to play in the NHL again. I agree that most players that are subject to the waiver probably should be grateful, but I made the point that most players that go through waivers aren't the same caliber of player that Nabokov is. The kind of player that should be grateful just for the chance to play in the NHL, regardless of the circumstances or terms, is a marginal NHL player, ie, someone who, based on their talents, is lucky to be in the NHL at all, and are lucky that any team actually wants to take a chance on them. That doesn't apply to Nabokov, who, according to you, had half of the teams in the NHL put in claims when he hit waivers.
Now, I realized that players that had once been good but had now advanced in age to the point that they became marginal NHL players could also be prone to being put on waivers, which is what I was alluding to when I said "Nabokov is not a 50 year old Chris Chelios". The players you listed have something in common: all of them (with the exception of Gerber, who doesn't belong on the list, won a stanley cup as a back up, and has spent most of his career in the minors) are players whose best play was several years behind them and most of them were under contracts where they were being significantly overpaid due to their previous play. So if Miroslav Satan, who is 8 years removed from any all star game and just finished a campaign with the Bruins in which he netted 14 points on the season, was put on waivers and was claimed by the Islanders, and he said "I only want to play for team x", I would say, Satan, you should be grateful that any team in the NHL wants you because at this point in your career you are a marginal player and if you want to play in the NHL at this point you can't do so according to your own terms anymore. But Nabokov doesn't have to be grateful for the opportunity to play in the NHL. He was putting up elite goalie numbers last season. He belongs in the NHL, and when players of his caliber exercise their right not to play in our league, to play in other leagues instead, it is to the detriment of the NHL. Which is why I feel cheated as a fan when players like Nabokov or Radulov, who belong in the NHL, go over to the KHL.
So Nabokov came back to the NHL with the intent to play for a contender. Just like Hossa, when he went to Pittsburgh, and then Detriot, and then Chicago. Or Ray Bourque, when he said so long Boston, I want to win a cup before I retire. The only difference is Nabokov was at the mercy of the waiver wire, and had the audacity to believe that teams would respect his wishes to play for something resembling a contending team, and that no one would pick up an elite goaltender at an entry level salary.
To summarize my position: I believe that Nabokov, at this point in his career, has every right to want to play for a contending team. I believe he went about doing so in a naive way. I believe that the Islanders had every right to claim Nabokov, but they must have known he would have reservations about playing there. I believe it makes no sense for Nabokov to play for the Islanders, and I support his decision not to report to the team. I don't consider him not reporting to the Islanders proof that he thinks he is above the rules or anything like that, just that he was put in a position that he never agreed to be in, and in fact stated that he was looking for the exact opposite. And I believe that if the Islanders hold him to this contract next year, he will be playing in the KHL next year. And I believe that is not in the best interests of the NHL.
Haha really... doesn't everyone want to play for a contending team? you make terrible points |
| n/a |
Posted - 02/04/2011 : 04:51:29
I am utterly shocked that at this point, Nabakov has not reported to the Islanders. His agent should have been able to make it clear to him that he may not be playing anywhere if he keeps this up!
Swallow your inflated pride, Nabby, play a month or two with the Islanders, then sign with whoever you want next season . . .
. . . that is, if anyone will want you, after you play for the Islanders, who make every goalie look so great.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| Guest4558 |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 10:52:52
Of course he should have been suspended. Snow is only oding what is right for his organization. He picked up an asset. I think the truly funny thing is that the contract he signed, I read 575K for the rest of the year, could very well be his salary for the entire next season. He should just play it out. I can't imagine what is going through his head.
I suppose if he doesn't report and the Isles have him next season, he woild be a nice piece of tradebait at that salary. |
| irvine |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 03:28:31
Should Nabakov have been suspended by the Islanders?
Simple answer... YES!
Why the Islanders tried picking up off Waivers is beyond me to begin with, since their season is likely going no where.
But, for a player to come back to the NHL, after leaving based solely on money, you play for the team that gets you.
Irvine/prez. |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 02/03/2011 : 03:20:58
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Originally posted by nuxfan
Toxxik - he did sign a contract with DET, for 450K (prorated that works out to 250K). Contracts follow players - when he went on waivers his contract went with him, and when you pickup a player on wiavers you assume their contract as well.
I stand corrected, thanks for setting me straight. I thought it was in principle with Detroit until after he cleared waivers, my bad.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| polishexpress |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 18:49:22
@Canucks Man:
You are aware of the waiver rules, right? The media made them very clear in the case of Nabokov.
Here is a quote from an ESPN NHL web article:
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The 35-year-old goaltender signed a one-year contract with Detroit on Thursday.
Nabokov, who played with the San Jose Sharks for parts of 10 seasons, had spent this season with SKA St. Petersburg of the Russian KHL and hadn't yet played for Detroit.
The NHL's collective bargaining agreement states that anyone who plays in a professional league before signing an NHL contract must clear waivers.
Once he signed his one-year deal with the Red Wings, he became available to the Islanders.
New York owns Nabokov's rights and could keep him out of the NHL for all of next season should Nabokov not report.
Nabokov has been disappointed that he won't be joining the Stanley Cup-contending Red Wings. Instead he is now under contract with the Islanders, who are far out of the Eastern Conference playoff race.
Here is the link to the article: http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nhl/news/story?id=6062772
It doesn't matter who Nabby signed with. He had played overseas, so he had to clear waivers before he could play again in the NHL, regardless of who he signed with. I think it's a stupid rule in that case, but rules are rules, and by signing on the dotted line, Nabokov knew what he was doing.
And that is where the Yashin precedent comes in to play, since NYI will be able to claim that they are owed whatever the contract stipulates, and that is 1 year of NHL play. |
| Guest4278 |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 18:20:05
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Originally posted by Guest4350
Here's to karma and hoping nobody signs him in the summer....
No karma would be he gets a long term injury like an ACL or double ACL tear. |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 17:09:17
AFAIK, he is suspended until he decides to report - once he does, I don't think NYI can keep him suspended. It would be a good move on his part to do something like that (perhaps the last 2 weeks), so he doesn't screw himself for next year. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 13:12:46
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Originally posted by Guest4350
Likely scenario, he reports on the last day voiding the Isle ability to keep him another year. Then signs as UFA in the summer. Probably playing only 1 game with the Isle. The Isle gets screwed over again. The player gets their wishes. Here's to karma and hoping nobody signs him in the summer....
I don't have a clue if this is possible, but i'm kinda thinking it's not. If the Isles supspend him, it's my thinking that they decide when the suspension is up therefore not enabling him to come back for one game in your scenario? I don't know this to be true, but i'd have to assume there's a rule prohibiting this in there somewhere/?
Anyone know? |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 11:44:32
Toxxik - he did sign a contract with DET, for 450K (prorated that works out to 250K). Contracts follow players - when he went on waivers his contract went with him, and when you pickup a player on wiavers you assume their contract as well. |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 11:43:51
First off, Nabokov did sign a contract with Detriot, if he didn't then he isnt under contract with the Islanders and has absolutly no reason to go there.
Second, Yashin was on a contract he signed with Ottawa when he didn't show up for the season, Nabokov did not sign a contract with NYI there for he really doesn't owe them anything for not showing up.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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| polishexpress |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 11:32:04
Of course Nabokov can fight this, but the precedent has been set when Yashin wanted a trade and refused to play. Ottawa then susepended for the 99/00 season, which had been the last year of the contract. After the season was done, Yashin didn't become a free agent as he was supposed to, rather, an arbitrator rule that Ottawa was still owed the final year of the contract. Thus Yashin came back in the 00/01 season.
Nabokov is an Islander next year as it stands. |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 10:28:57
What contract exactly has he signed?? If you're speaking of Detroit, there isn't a contract to sign until he cleared waivers, which he didn't, NYI claimed him.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 10:16:24
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Originally posted by ToXXiK1
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Originally posted by Canucks Man
Can Someone please explain how the Islanders are going to hold his contract for next season. As far as I can tell there really isn't any right or reason for that.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
I believe due to not reporting and the subsequent suspension, the NYI still have him for the following year. If he showed and played, he was a free man next season.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke
Can he fight this? Considering the contract he signed was with another team that had a no movement clause. Seems unfair that he would be forced to play for a team he never signed a contract with.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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| Guest4350 |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 09:52:06
quote:
Originally posted by Guest5958
So Nabokov came back to the NHL with the intent to play for a contender. Just like Hossa, when he went to Pittsburgh, and then Detriot, and then Chicago. Or Ray Bourque, when he said so long Boston, I want to win a cup before I retire. The only difference is Nabokov was at the mercy of the waiver wire, and had the audacity to believe that teams would respect his wishes to play for something resembling a contending team, and that no one would pick up an elite goaltender at an entry level salary.
Similar but not just like Hossa, and Bourque. Hossa and Bourque didn't leave the NHL. There is no need for any team to respect his wishes until he shows them due respect in return. First he disrespect the league by ditching them and then want the league to respect his wishes. His wishes weren't respected because the Isles picked him up so, what does Nabby do? Yup more dissin'.
Likely scenario, he reports on the last day voiding the Isle ability to keep him another year. Then signs as UFA in the summer. Probably playing only 1 game with the Isle. The Isle gets screwed over again. The player gets their wishes. Here's to karma and hoping nobody signs him in the summer.... |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 08:55:58
enlightening....... really?
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| Guest0288 |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 08:51:03
a goalie stops the puck from going in the net right? |
| ToXXiK1 |
Posted - 02/02/2011 : 02:03:55
quote:
Originally posted by Canucks Man
Can Someone please explain how the Islanders are going to hold his contract for next season. As far as I can tell there really isn't any right or reason for that.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
I believe due to not reporting and the subsequent suspension, the NYI still have him for the following year. If he showed and played, he was a free man next season.
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
| Canucks Man |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 23:49:52
Can Someone please explain how the Islanders are going to hold his contract for next season. As far as I can tell there really isn't any right or reason for that.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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| nuxfan |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 22:36:59
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Nabokov actually HAS earned the right to dictate his career path, you don't just lose your credentials because you left the league for half a season
Actually, you do lose that right - at least for the duration of the contract which he signed to get back into the NHL - if you want to play in the NHL again.
The people that think the NYI are in the wrong here constantly point to Nabby's credentials - this has nothing to do with credentials. Whether or not Nabby plays for NYI or DET or never again in the NHL, he'll still be a great goalie with great NHL stats.
HOWEVER, because he chose to come back to the NHL in the middle of the season, when he started the season elsewhere, and then got picked up on waivers, if he wants to continue his career in the NHL, he must do one of the following:
- play the remainder of the seaon with NYI, then sign with anyone as a UFA in the summer
- sit out the remainder of the season, and possibly the next season as well (if NYI elects to hold him to the contract thru next season), then sign with anyone in the summer of 2012.
- hope that NYI puts him back on waivers, and he eventually gets picked up by a team that he actually wants to play for.
Whether or not he wants to play for NYI is irrelevant at this point - they own his rights for the remainder of the season and possibly next season as well.
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What do you guys think would have happened if Detroit had offered him more money? I don't know how much cap space they had, but had they made it pricier, would NYI or any other teams have bitten? I'm still thinking some teams would have, but perhaps it'd have been playoff teams and i wonder if he'd have reported, lets say to a team like Chicago?
I think the reason that he was so popular was largely due to the contract size - its an attractive amount and fits under nearly every team's cap. Had you told a team that they could have Nabby's services for a pro-rated 500K in September, you'd have had 25 teams wanting to take a bite for sure.
I also think that he has a small list of teams that he would be willing to "suffer through" if he could not get to DET - pretty much any of the perceived top-6 teams in his mind. |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 21:32:29
quote:
Originally posted by WhiteBread9
Playing for the Islanders is the equivalent to working at McDonalds.
BINGO!!! Finally some truth! There are similarities here. You see, if he played for the Islanders OR if he worked at McDonalds, he'd get a free ugly uniform!!!  |
| WhiteBread9 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 21:09:45
I don't blame Nabokov at all for not wanting to play for the Islanders.
1) The Islanders were recently voted as the franchise that 27% of all NHL players would least like to play for. That pretty much speaks for itself.
2) They are the worst NHL team of the decade. They have no chance of getting anywhere near a playoff spot within the next 5 seasons. They are constantly trading away good talent and getting virtually nothing in return. They also havent drafted a servicable NHLer other than John Tavares, Kyle Okposo, or Blake Comeau since 2000. Why would anyone want to play for a team with no future. Playing for the Islanders is the equivalent to working at McDonalds.
3) Nabokov actually HAS earned the right to dictate his career path, you don't just lose your credentials because you left the league for half a season. And would someone please tell me how a goalie goes from being the starting goalie for Russia in the Olympics, second in the NHL in wins, and sixth in save percentage to being a marginal player who should be greatful that the Islanders want him to play for them! That is simply absurd, this guy is a top 5 goalie in the league and you say he should be greatful to play for the Islanders!? And I hardly doubt he regrets his decision, his KHL team is still paying him his contract and hes sitting on a beach in Cali! Thats not a bad life if you ask me |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 20:59:55
What do you guys think would have happened if Detroit had offered him more money? I don't know how much cap space they had, but had they made it pricier, would NYI or any other teams have bitten? I'm still thinking some teams would have, but perhaps it'd have been playoff teams and i wonder if he'd have reported, lets say to a team like Chicago? |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 20:37:41
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I get "hung up" on things that people write that have absolutely no basis in fact. Even more so when they don't actually even have a basis in common sense.
what facts are we missing here? All the facts are known:
- Nabby had offers in the NHL last summer, at substantially lower values than he was willing to play for
- Nabby left the NHL for more money with the KHL
- his KHL team let him go for "family reasons"
- he wants back into the NHL to play for DET, a contender, and signed a very low value 1 year deal to do so
- he went through waivers, knowing full well the wiaver rules
- he was picked up by NYI, who were well within their rights to do so, and seemed to be legitimately acting in the best interests of their team (ie, not malice). Just like any other team picking up a player on waivers.
- he refused to report to NYI
Everything else - including most of your post - is opinion and editorial. This whole thread is opinion, as the original question is open-ended.
And it does seem you are missing the point. No one is down on Nabby for going home to Russia to play for more money - good on him, someone at home gave him the money he wanted, and he went after it, we all understand the "rudimentary economics" of his decision. Players make that decision every year.
People are down on Nabby for simply thinking that he can come back when things go bad in Russia and dictate his situation in the league - regardless of the rules that the league has in place. And when things don't go according to "his priorities", he chooses not to report. He obviously cares more about getting his own way and playing for a contender than the league as a whole - so why should the league care much about him and what he wants?
Why should NYI un-suspend him and throw him back on waivers? They need a goalie, they got one on waivers, and they're not letting him go - they have every right to try to have their "asset" come around, and are in no danger of losing him.
It is no different than a contract dispute with an RFA that has no arbitration rights - the team that owns his rights can take as long as they need for the player to come around, because the player has no other recourse. Would we all suddenly feel sympathy for the RFA because the team was not moving him or putting him on waivers and allowing him to play where he wanted to play?
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| Nucksyear |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 16:49:12
If Snow didn't take him, NYI fans should b totally po'd. That's business. Snow probably would have showcased him for a trade anyways. Nabby got bad advice, gave it a shot and can live on a beach (probably under a rock) wondering what could of been. DESERVES IT! We've heard all the rhymes and reasons but all it boils down to is wishing he was on a winning team for all the marbels.................shoulda stayed with the Sharks. Nuff said on this subject. Guest5958 must be his NEW agent, eh? |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 16:23:01
quote:
Originally posted by Guest0288
nabokov is a goalie
Your point being?  |
| Guest0288 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 16:19:58
nabokov is a goalie |
| Guest4803 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 15:40:11
They have the right to suspend him, but like others have said do you honestly think the Islanders organization expected him to show up? if they did they should give their head a shake, he obviously wanted to play for a contender hence why he signed with detroit (most desirable team as voted by the players) he knew he was going to be put on waivers and that more then likely someone was going to claim him and if they werent to his liking (islanders were voted least desirable team to play for) he was going to sit out and not report. Now there stuck with him they can either put him back on waivers or deal him to the redwings..(dont think they are able to trade him to anyone else due to him being claimed from the wings) |
| Guest2427 |
Posted - 02/01/2011 : 14:05:44
I get "hung up" on things that people write that have absolutely no basis in fact. Even more so when they don't actually even have a basis in common sense.
I like the NHL too. I'm a fan. But I'm not shortsighted enough to believe that everybody holds the NHL in such a cherished position, especially players that are born outside of North America. So when a player leaves the NHL to play in the KHL for allegedly more money, you say "OMG, how could they not be playing in the NHL when given a chance? They must be "pissed off"/"bitter"/whatever". Whereas I say it makes perfect sense for a player to play in their country of origin for more money, and I am lead to question your ability to properly attribute motives to actions.
I don't think it requires anger or bitterness to play in your home country for more money. I think it requires common sense and a rudimentary idea of economics.
Now, a player might decide to play in a country other than their origin for less money than they could get elsewhere if there are other compelling reasons to do so. Such as playing on a half-decent team with at least a marginal chance at some post-season success. Now to the extent that that is not possible, that a player could only play for less money in a country other than their origin on a team that has zero chance at a championship, it is 100% reasonable for that player to say "I cannot agree to these terms, thanks but no thanks". And once again, that does not require the player to be angry or bitter, just to have a different set of priorities than you.
You guys are so in love with the NHL that you can't conceive of the possibility that someone might have different priorities, that their highest goal might not be just playing on any old team in the NHL. Try learning some empathy.
And perhaps I am missing your point, because your point seems to be based in irrationality. You guys think Nabokov was given the privilege to play in the NHL, that he refused to do so unconditionally and that this is proof of some kind of character flaw. My point was merely that Nabokov had different priorities than what you might have, that the Islander deal simply wasn't in his best interests, that it was perfectly within his rights not to report to the Isles and that that doesn't automatically make him a jerkoff.
And while it might have been easy enough for him to play for the Isles for a couple of months and then hit free agency, playing in the NHL is not the pinnacle achievement for him. If Nabokov is offered more money to play in his home country again next year, guess what: he's probably going to go play in the KHL again.
Oh and this little bump in the road doesn't mean Nabokov will "finish his career in the minors". If he would't play for the Islanders, what on Earth makes you think he would play in the minors?
I don't necessarily think you guys don't "get the point". I just think you lack perspective. That's all. |
| nuxfan |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 22:02:08
the contents of paragraph 2 would constitute a new topic, and hence a new thread. If you want to discuss it, feel free to start one. |
| MyTeamRules |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 19:45:31
No this was not the right thing to do. If he didn't report to any top 22 team then this should be done, but the NYI should relize that a 1 year contract for a team that can't even make the playoffs is rediculous. Also Nabby needs to prove he can not only take a team for 10th to 8th but that he can play in the playoffs.
Is it just me or is this NYI GM just attempting to wreck the NHL, the only reason I can understand he is not investing in many players is that he thinks he will have to give Schremp, Okoposo, and Tavares 3M + contracts. And even that is pushing the limits. If any one has any more points on paragraph 2 I would very much like to hear opinions on this matter.
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| Guest2429 |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 17:59:54
I question if guest 5958 has a real clue what he is talking about.
He got into a hissy fit because San Jose dropped him and nothing else looked promising as all of the "contenders" had their goalie situation addressed. He goes to the KHL to get some more money/glory whatever, he left because he was pissed off.
Then he plays totaly lackluster in the KHL and he either asks to be released, or is offered one for whatever reason, wasnt it "family issues" at the outset, man he sure solved those failry sonn didnt he.
Then he wants to come spweeping back into the NHL with a team that now needs him because of injuries to one of thier star goalies, and he is all ready and raring to go, family problems solved, bitterness with the NHL gone etc.
He KNOWS tha this rule is in place, he is CRAZY if he thinks that no other team will grab him on waivers, I mean there are currently what at least 8 clubs that have a major problem with goalie injuries alone let alone, stars who arent playing up to expected levels ( although I think that would only be about another 3 or 4 clubs at most)
Then he wont play because he wants a chance at a Cup.
So stop getting hung up on "whiny" or "crybaby"
When you break it down he wanted it his way, and much Like Lindros and and the NOrdiques sitaution, if he cant have it his way then screw the league and its rules. A player like thats shouldnt be getting a chance to play in the NHL no matter how skilled, and hopefully Nabokov finishes his career in the minors as a washout |
| n/a |
Posted - 01/31/2011 : 05:46:47
Guest 5958:
Boy, do you ever miss the point.
Nabakov LEFT THE NHL. That means, he has lost EVERY accomodation and luxury afforded to him as an established veteran with a very good record/history. He CHOSE to leave the NHL, and he CHOSE to not report to the Islanders.
He wants to be able to snub the NHL, and come back and win a Stanley Cup perhaps? Fat chance, bud . . . he forfeited his right to be a prima donna, and now he will pay the price. Actions speak louder than words, and although you or I probably haven't heard one real sentence from Nabakov ever that wasn't a sound byte for public consumption, his actions say to me: WHINY PRIMA DONNA.
He made his bed, and he is sleeping in it.
As someone stated earlier - how easy would it have been to play a few months for the Isles, then get a contract in the summer? For a now failed KHL player, he seriously needs a reality check - and he'll get it, I wager.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
| The Duke |
Posted - 01/30/2011 : 15:32:12
This guy has an opportunity to play in the best ice hockey league in the world...hands down, after walking away from it...and instead of playing he balks at it !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Does he realize how many have dreamed of playing in that league, never having the skill set to do so. He has the tools and slaps the NYI in the face.....what an a$$ - hole....
Does he realize how many 30 year old goalies are still playing in the minors and would give their right nut to play for the NYI ??????.....guess you can read my opinion of NABBBBBY.
p.s...i also lost a lot of respect for the Kipper during the Olympics pre-games when he told Finnish upper management that......if he wasn`t going to be the number 1 starter for certain,,,,,he would not play for their Olympic team !!!! Who the hell does this guy think he is ?? P.Roy or M.Brodeur.....what have you done Kipper besides that one good playoff year ?
Can you imagine, as a common person, having the chance to play in the Olympics and setting ultimatums ?? Personally i would have told him that if thats the way he feels abot his country....STAT HOME AND WATCH IT ON TV !!! |
| Alex116 |
Posted - 01/29/2011 : 23:42:09
IMO, he'll never play for Detroit! They want him now, they may not need him next year or anytime thereafter.
No way the other teams in the west, below Det in the standings, in position for playoffs, let them get him! NO WAY!!! |
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