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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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 Posted - 07/08/2010 : 08:39:40
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Flyers close to signing Nikolai Zherdev.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2010 : 09:37:02
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Yeah, I read that earlier. But, I don't see people jumping all over Carolina, such as they did Calgary, for taking back a former player.
It was just earlier this season (around trade deadline, or deadline day), that Carolina traded Joe Corvo to the Washington Capitals. And, here we are the very next off-season, and Corvo re-signs with Carolina.
Olli Jokinen & Calgary anyone?
Irvine, there is a difference.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2010 : 14:11:35
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Here are 15 rumors
1) Devils have offered Kovalchuk a 17 year deal worth 100 million.
2) Kovalchuk may sign a 1-year deal with Philly or Detroit.
3) Kovalchuk signing is holding up Kaberle deal.
4) NHL may eventually implement a luxury tax or allow getting rid of guaranteed contracts.
5) Gagne may not waive his NTC.
6) Demitra to KHL.
7) Frolov wants 5 million/year. Rangers and Kings are most likely.
8) Philly may go after Jose Theodore.
9) John Madden to Rangers or Islanders.
10) Ruslan Fedotenko to Habs or Blues
11) Kariya may sign with Pens, Guerin may sign with Devils or Flyers.
12) Sharks may still be in the market for a goalie.
13) Metropolit to Leafs, Panthers or possibly back to Habs.
14) Justin Williams could be moved.
15) Flames and Bruins are trying to made a major trade.
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Posted - 07/09/2010 : 07:38:47
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I've got this funny feeling that the Kovalchuk deal may, in fact, be holding up the Kaberle deal . . . but let's examine why that could be so.
LA Kings
They are in the Kovie sweepstakes until the end, I think . . . and until Kovalchuk is actually signed by another team (see: NJ), or they sign him, the Kaberle for whoever is on hold. Or, maybe it would become a different deal . . . Kovalchuk goes to LA, then they can move a guy like Frolov to Toronto in a trade with Kaberle, something like that. Or maybe if they sign Kovalchuk the deal is off? Who knows, all specualtion at this point, but my guess is LA may in fact be the team that is definitely going to go after Kaberle in a deal, and Burke wants to wait to see if Kovalchuk signs, meaning he can get a player of better value that would suit his team more - like Frolov (can I dream about Brown?). Or very unlikely Smyth and a few prospects.
NJ
The other team in the Kovie sweepstakes, they might be hinging even more on what moves they can make if they DON'T sign Kovalchuk. Then, I think they definitely pursue Kabbie, but what Toronto might be able to get back from them is tough to pick out. As with LA, I can dream all I want about a very good young player like Zajac (no comments please Beans!), but it'll more likely be along the ilnes of . . . Zubrus and picks? A handful of center prospects? Some NJ smog?
I am hoping for LA here in this two horse race.
If the deal is really being held up by Kovalchuk and nothing else better comes along first, that is.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2010 : 11:36:14
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| SJ has presented Hjalmarsson with an offer sheet, 4yr/14M. I don't think CHI can match that and stay under the cap. If they reject it, they get SJ 1st and 3rd round picks as compensation. I like this pickup for SJ, Hjalmersson had a great coming out in the playoffs, and at only 20 years of age has a lot of upside (even if 3.5 is overpaying now) |
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 07/09/2010 : 11:44:37
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[i]Originally posted by slozo[/i]
[br]I've got this funny feeling that the Kovalchuk deal may, in fact, be holding up the Kaberle deal . . . but let's examine why that could be so.
LA Kings
They are in the Kovie sweepstakes until the end, I think . . . and until Kovalchuk is actually signed by another team (see: NJ), or they sign him, the Kaberle for whoever is on hold. Or, maybe it would become a different deal . . . Kovalchuk goes to LA, then they can move a guy like Frolov to Toronto in a trade with Kaberle, something like that. Or maybe if they sign Kovalchuk the deal is off? Who knows, all specualtion at this point, but my guess is LA may in fact be the team that is definitely going to go after Kaberle in a deal, and Burke wants to wait to see if Kovalchuk signs, meaning he can get a player of better value that would suit his team more - like Frolov (can I dream about Brown?). Or very unlikely Smyth and a few prospects.
NJ
The other team in the Kovie sweepstakes, they might be hinging even more on what moves they can make if they DON'T sign Kovalchuk. Then, I think they definitely pursue Kabbie, but what Toronto might be able to get back from them is tough to pick out. As with LA, I can dream all I want about a very good young player like Zajac (no comments please Beans!), but it'll more likely be along the ilnes of . . . Zubrus and picks? A handful of center prospects? Some NJ smog?
I am hoping for LA here in this two horse race.
If the deal is really being held up by Kovalchuk and nothing else better comes along first, that is.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Frolov is a UFA right now and he might go sign in the KHL, if not well he wont be acquired through a trade as LA has no rights on him.
As for Zubrus I really hope Burke can do better then this. We dont want another third line player. A top six proven player at least, and then depending on the player we receive a swap of picks or prospects.
But you're right everything is on hold until Kovalchuk signs. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2010 : 12:42:05
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[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]SJ has presented Hjalmarsson with an offer sheet, 4yr/14M. I don't think CHI can match that and stay under the cap. If they reject it, they get SJ 1st and 3rd round picks as compensation. I like this pickup for SJ, Hjalmersson had a great coming out in the playoffs, and at only 20 years of age has a lot of upside (even if 3.5 is overpaying now)
YES YES YES, they get a good D-Man .Both 1st and 3rd round picks??????Is he realy worth that I think he is.Come on Chicago dont match this offer PLEASE.
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Posted - 07/09/2010 : 15:25:17
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Leafs81 - I stand corrected, yes - forgot Frolov was a UFA, good catch . . . should have remembered that as I remember looking at him as one of the potential overpriced pick-ups for the Leafers :P
Zherdev to Philly . . . I don't know about this move, and on the surface it doesn't make sense . . . unless, like Toronto getting extra d-men when they already have too many, there are still pieces to move.
Well, maybe not . . . they did need another RWinger come to think of it. Still, I thought this was a weird move for Philly, as with Briere and Giroux (who looks to be a solid second liner after his stellar playoffs) already there, why do they need a finesse scorer like Zherdev - certainly not on the third line?
Wait a second . . . could Philly actually be thinking about dealing Gagne and all that "I didn't waive my NTC" was a big smoke screen? Or better yet, do they want to move Briere again (in the past, it was a constant rumour)?
It'd be a shame to stick a young gun like Giroux, who showed such promise this last playoffs and last year, on the third line.
But it could be the case.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2010 : 16:11:16
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| Slozo, I agree - PHI has signed Zherdev in anticipation of moving one of their current forwards that are more expensive than Zherdev - to free up cap space. |
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 09:18:32
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Is it me, or, are the Flyers looking like they could repeat to the Cup finals next year?
The Flyers have added more depth to their blueline this year, without losing one of their top 4.
They have also brought in another Sniper in Zherdev to complete the top 2 lines up front. If, they move out a highly paid guy like Gagne, for another good piece of cheaper value... this deam does not lose a ton, and have gained some more scoring + a better defense stacked on a solid defense as it is.
This team is looking very, very good to me.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 09:44:05
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This team is looking very, very good to me.
Except goal. I'm not convinced that Leighton is the man |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 10:09:48
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Some more rumours:
- NY Post is reporting that NJD have offered Kovy a 17yr/100M+ deal, which effectively is a lifetime deal for him and allows them to try to make it more cap friendly. The deal would reportedly pay 10M in each of the first 10 years, and then drop off rapidly. Look for a cap hit of 6-6.5 over the life of the deal.
- CHI is looking to loan Huet to a European club. Hawks still have to pay some portion of his salary, but it comes off the books
- (unfounded so far) rumour that PHX is interested in Spezza, and has tabled an offer for him to OTT.
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 13:18:27
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The Phoenix Coyotes seem to have the young players required to trade for Jason Spezza. Although, they don't have as many young players now, as they did 1-2 years ago.
But, i'd be interested to see what the Coyotes offered for him. Spezza is an excellent playmaker in the NHL, and young. He does have a high CAP hit (of $7.0M I believe), but with age and skill, can be a valuable asset.
Some players I'd have interest in seeing to OTT are:
Wojtek Wolski & Mikkael Boedker from their NHL team.
Maybe a prospect like Ahnelov.
But, I don't see what they could add to Wolski or Boedker to make a deal work. I'm not sure where all of Phoenix young, up and coming players have gone, but they have seemed to move a lot of them out over the past year or two.
As expensive as Spezza is, i'd be asking a fair amount for him. Otherwise, his production is worth keeping him if the deal is not right.
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 13:20:17
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Also, Huet to an EU club is a great choice, to me.
You lose his hit from the cap books, which is ideally what you want. And, you only pay a portion of his salary. Which, is less than paying him full value to play in the minors.
So not only do they free up the full cap hit, they pay less than they would if he played in the minors. Also, you don't disturb any development of your farm goalies, but having a veteran, highly overpaid netminder taking their spot.
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 17:53:29
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Rumors of the day:
Georges Laraque to sign with AIK of the Elitserian (Swedish Elite League).
The Source is a Swedish News Site. (dn.se). And the article is in Swedish. I will have a friend translate it for me later, if he has time.
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Ales Kotalik to sign with Lokomotiv Yaroslavl of the KHL (Continental Hockey League -- Russia). Source is a Russian Sports site (sportbox.ru) The article is in Russian.
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Simon Gagne to be traded from PHI to the LA Kings. Unsure of the full return between both teams. Source appears to be a Russian site. (sportsacentrs.com)
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Canadiens are talking with Maxim Lapierre to re-sign him.
As well as, Carey Price still.
(Source tsn.ca)
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Other rumors, although very doubtful (even listed as doubtful on respected sites)
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Bobby Ryan to Maple Leafs or Canucks
Kevin Bieksa to Ducks or Sabres
Tomas Kaberle to Ducks
Sean Bergenheim to Frolunda (SEL)
Robert Nilsson to Salavat Yulaev Ufa (KHL)
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/10/2010 : 21:38:55
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Gagne to LA - now that trade makes some sense. Although LA has been bandied as the likely destination for Kovy, I never thought that they needed someone like him - they have a pretty balanced offense now with some young guns and Smyth there as a veteran. All they really need is someone else to provide steady scoring on the first or second line, who doesn't cost too too much. Hey...Gagne.
Bobby Ryan to the Canucks? I have heard rumours of pretty much everyone coming to the Canucks at some point this summer, but not Ryan. To acquire him we're definitely giving up Bieksa, but if Ryan wants 5M per year we have to move more than Bieksa's 3.75 (I also can't believe that ANA is willing to give up Ryan straight up, if they are they should get Kaberle instead). Canucks are at the cap now with a full roster signed for next year, so they have very little room to move.
So, if you think that ANA values Ryan, and VAN has to move at least 5M in salary to get him signed, then I would imagine that the players going to ANA would be Bieksa + another dman (Alberts/Rome/SOB) + someone like Burrows or Samuelsson. That would free up the cap room and provide value to ANA. I would hate to lose either of Burrows or Samuelsson in a deal, but man I'd love to get Ryan up here. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/11/2010 : 14:44:25
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Here is some
Edmonton Oilers and San Jose Sharks after Arron Asham.
Rangers after Demitra.
Hjalmarsson likely not to be matched.
Setoguchi now a target for alot of teams.
Here is a possible LA - PHI
To PHI
Oscar Moller
Thomas Hickey
LA 2nd in 2011
To LA
Simon Gagne
Matt Carle
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 09:42:33
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more rumours:
- Darren Dredger is reporting that many GM's think PHI will put Gagne on waivers, as he has been unwilling to waive his NTC.
- This is an interesting one. Bill Sweatt could be headed to UFA. He is the prospect that TOR picked up from CHI with the Versteeg trade. However, before the trade, CHI didn't sign him to anything, and per terms of the CBA, if he is not signed before TOR opens their camp in August he becomes a UFA. TOR has made a "generous offer", but with UFA so close, his agent is wondering if it might be a golden opp to test the waters and let his client have their pick of destinations at such a young age. Demand will be high, he is a significant prospect.
- Apparently, Turco was offered less than 1.55 by PHI for a contract. That is what they're paying Leighton, tells you something about how Turco is percieved.
- Demitra has had multiple KHL offers, but is still seeking an NHL contract. NYR is the obvious destination to be paired once again with Gaborik |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 12:03:21
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Pavol Demitra to NYR is very possible.
Kaberle to SJ is possible if Chicago matches Hjalmarsson.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 14:31:52
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nuxfan Re: Bobby Ryan....Aside from the guys you listed in regards to salary cap issues and the need to gain cap space to afford Ryan, the Canucks would likely have to give up more than what you listed. I'd be guessing a guy like Hodgson would be involved in any deal for Ryan?
Regardless, that deal is likely a rumour and nothing more. |
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Tiller33
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 14:40:09
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Absolutely Alex,
Just like the 1000 rumours of him goin to the Leafs, before talks would even take place understand that Kadri would be going the other way. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 15:00:18
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DATE PLAYERS DETAILS 2010-11 TEAM 2009-10 TEAM
July 12 C Nick Dodge [story] Carolina Carolina
July 12 RW Jeremy Williams [story] NY Rangers Detroit
July 12 C Aaron Gagnon [story] Dallas Dallas
July 12 D Brennan Evans [story] St. Louis Anaheim
July 12 D Shane O'Brien [story] Vancouver Vancouver
July 12 LW Tanner Glass [story] Vancouver Vancouver
July 12 C Alexandre Bolduc [story] Vancouver Vancouver
July 12 G Tyler Weiman [story] Vancouver Colorado
July 9 RW Ben Ondrus [story] Edmonton Toronto
July 9 D Dan Girardi [story] NY Rangers NY Rangers
July 9 D Mark Stuart [story] Boston Boston
July 9 D Brett Palin [story] Nashville Calgary
July 8 RW Eric Fehr [story] Washington Washington
July 8 LW Robbie Earl [story] Minnesota Minnesota
July 7 D Mike Weber [story] Buffalo Buffalo
July 7 C Nicolas Blanchard [story] Carolina Carolina
July 7 D Casey Borer [story] Carolina Carolina
July 7 D Nathan Paetsch [story] Florida Columbus
July 7 D Jason Garrison [story] Florida Florida
July 7 D Brett Lebda [story] Toronto Detroit
July 7 D Jay Leach [story] San Jose San Jose
July 7 G Patrick Lalime [story] Buffalo Buffalo
July 7 LW Eric Boulton [story] Atlanta Atlanta
July 7 LW Brandon Yip [story] Colorado Colorado
July 7 LW Kyle Greentree [story] Washington Chicago
July 7 D Brian Fahey [story] Washington Colorado
July 7 D Joe Corvo [story] Carolina Washington
July 7 C Corey Locke [story] Ottawa NY Rangers
July 7 D Andrew Hutchinson [story] Pittsburgh Dallas
July 7 RW Patrick Eaves [story] Detroit Detroit
July 7 C Rob Niedermayer [story] Buffalo New Jersey
July 7 D Jeff Schultz [story] Washington Washington
July 7 C Jared Ross [story] Atlanta Flyers
July 7 D Jaime Sifers [story] Atlanta Minnesota
July 6 D Jamie Fraser [story] Minnesota Minnesota
July 6 RW Jon DiSalvatore [story] Minnesota Minnesota
July 6 LW Sergei Kostitsyn [story] Nashville Montreal
July 6 D Carlo Colaiacovo [story] St. Louis St. Louis
July 6 C/RW Boyd Gordon [story] Washington Washington
July 6 LW Drew Miller [story] Detroit Detroit
July 6 D Mike Lundin [story] Tampa Bay Tampa Bay
July 6 RW Teddy Purcell [story] Tampa Bay Tampa Bay
July 6 RW Cam Janssen [story] St. Louis St. Louis
July 6 G Jaroslav Halak [story] St. Louis Montreal
July 6 G Joey MacDonald [story] Detroit Anaheim
July 6 C Jamie Johnson [story] Detroit Edmonton
July 6 LW Chris Minard [story] Detroit Edmonton
July 5 D Brett Clark [story] Tampa Bay Colorado
July 5 G Justin Peters [story] Carolina Carolina
July 5 D Nathan McIver [story] Boston Vancouver
July 5 C John Mitchell [story] Toronto Toronto
July 3 LW Brett Sterling [story] Pittsburgh San Jose
July 3 G Matt Climie [story] Phoenix Dallas
July 3 D Nolan Yonkman [story] Phoenix Nashville
July 3 D Garrett Stafford [story] Phoenix Dallas
July 3 LW Alexandre Giroux [story] Edmontion Washington
July 2 F Nikolai Kulemin [story] Toronto Toronto
July 2 F Daniel Winnik [story] Colorado Colorado
July 2 D Kyle Quincey [story] Colorado Colorado
July 2 C Trevor Smith [story] Anaheim NY Islanders
July 2 C Andrew Ebbett [story] Phoenix Minnesota
July 2 F Brandon Prust [story] NY Rangers NY Rangers
July 2 C Warren Peters [story] Minnesota Dallas
July 2 D Drew Bagnall [story] Minnesota Los Angeles
July 2 F Zenon Konopka [story] NY Islanders Tampa Bay
July 2 F PA Parenteau [story] NY Islanders NY Rangers
July 2 F Brad Winchester [story] St. Louis St. Louis
July 2 C Cody McCormick [story] Buffalo Buffalo
July 2 D Milan Jurina [story] NY Islanders Washington
July 2 D Mark Eaton [story] NY Islanders Pittsburgh
July 2 D John Scott [story] Chicago Minnesota
July 2 LW Chris Higgins [story] Florida Calgary
July 2 D Pavel Kubina [story] Tampa Bay Atlanta
July 2 D Jason Strudwick [story] Edmonton Edmonton
July 2 C Kyle Wilson [story] Columbus Washington
July 2 C Trevor Frischmon [story] Columbus Columbus
July 2 D Nathan Guenin [story] Columbus Pittsburgh
July 2 G Nathan Lawson [story] NY Islanders NY Islanders
July 2 LW Raitis Ivanans [story] Calgary Los Angeles
July 2 RW Tim Jackman [story] Calgary NY Islanders
July 2 G Dany Sabourin [story] Washington Boston
July 2 F Steve MacIntyre [story] Edmonton Edmonton
July 2 LW Triston Grant [story] Florida Nashville
July 2 F Ryan Craig [story] Pittsburgh Lightning
July 1 C Derek MacKenzie [story] Columbus Columbus
July 1 F Colin Fraser [story] Edmonton Chicago
July 1 LW Ray Whitney [story] Phoenix Carolina
July 1 C Jeremy Reich [story] Boston NY Islanders
July 1 G Andrew Raycroft [story] Dallas Vancouver
July 1 RW Adam Burish [story] Dallas Chicago
July 1 LW Eric Nystrom [story] Minnesota Calgary
July 1 C Matt Cullen [story] Minnesota Ottawa
July 1 C Dustin Boyd [story] Montreal Montreal
July 1 G Curtis Sanford [story] Montreal Montreal
July 1 D Dan Hamhuis [story] Vancouver Nashville
July 1 G Johan Hedberg [story] New Jersey Atlanta
July 1 C Vinny Prospal [story] NY Rangers NY Rangers
July 1 C Olli Jokinen [story] Calgary NY Rangers
July 1 D Anton Volchenkov [story] New Jersey Ottawa
July 1 D Henrik Tallinder [story] New Jersey Buffalo
July 1 G Dan Ellis [story] Tampa Bay Nashville
July 1 C Saku Koivu [story] Anaheim Anaheim
July 1 LW Jeff Tambellini [story] Vancouver NY Islanders
July 1 D Jordan Leopold [story] Buffalo Pittsburgh
July 1 RW Colby Armstrong [story] Toronto Atlanta
July 1 D Paul Martin [story] Pittsburgh New Jersey
July 1 G Chris Mason [story] Atlanta St. Louis
July 1 LW Jonathan Matsumoto [story] Carolina Philadelphia
July 1 LW Mitch Fritz [story] Tampa Bay Tampa Bay
July 1 LW Derek Boogaard [story] NY Rangers Minnesota
July 1 D Kurtis Foster [story] Edmonton Tampa Bay
July 1 D Toni Lydman [story] Anaheim Buffalo
July 1 D Derek Morris [story] Phoenix Phoenix
July 1 C Vladimir Sobotka [story] St. Louis Boston
July 1 C Alex Steen [story] St. Louis St. Louis
July 1 LW Jody Shelley [story] Philadelphia NY Rangers
July 1 C Joel Perrault [story] Vancouver Phoenix
July 1 LW Daniel Paille [story] Boston Boston
July 1 D Sean O'Donnell [story] Philadelphia Los Angeles
July 1 C Manny Malhotra [story] Vancouver San Jose
July 1 C Jesse Winchester [story] Ottawa Ottawa
July 1 G Antero Niittymaki [story] San Jose Tampa Bay
July 1 D Zbynek Michalek [story] Pittsburgh Phoenix
July 1 G Alex Auld [story] Montreal NY Rangers
July 1 D Sergei Gonchar [story] Ottawa Pittsburgh
July 1 D Braydon Coburn [story] Philadelphia Philadelphia
July 1 LW Guillaume Latendresse [story] Minnesota Minnesota
July 1 LW Alex Tanguay [story] Calgary Tampa Bay
July 1 G Martin Biron [story] NY Rangers NY Islanders
July 1 C Erik Christensen [story] NY Rangers NY Rangers
June 30 G Michael Leighton [story] Philadelphia Philadelphia
June 30 RW David Clarkson [story] New Jersey New Jersey
Above is a list of every player signed so far.
It was retrieved from NHL.com
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 15:43:18
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nuxfan Re: Bobby Ryan....Aside from the guys you listed in regards to salary cap issues and the need to gain cap space to afford Ryan, the Canucks would likely have to give up more than what you listed. I'd be guessing a guy like Hodgson would be involved in any deal for Ryan?
Could be. I would add Hodgson to that trade as well, and still take it:
To VAN:
- Bobby Ryan
To ANA:
- Bieksa
- Alberts
- Burrows
- Hodgson
Ryan will be a star in this league before long.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 07/12/2010 : 16:43:08
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[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]quote:
nuxfan Re: Bobby Ryan....Aside from the guys you listed in regards to salary cap issues and the need to gain cap space to afford Ryan, the Canucks would likely have to give up more than what you listed. I'd be guessing a guy like Hodgson would be involved in any deal for Ryan?
Could be. I would add Hodgson to that trade as well, and still take it:
To VAN:
- Bobby Ryan
To ANA:
- Bieksa
- Alberts
- Burrows
- Hodgson
Ryan will be a star in this league before long.
I think thats a bit too much for Ryan although him with the Sedin twins that would be like 250-300 points for that one line.
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Posted - 07/13/2010 : 05:55:41
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I don't get all the Bobby Ryan talk . . . can someone please point out where any Anaheim GM or official has said anything about his possible availability? Can anyone explain why Anaheim would deal this guy?
For my money, you may as well invent a rumour about Crosby getting traded . . . because that's as fat a chance as you'll see.
Haven't heard anything about Spezza lately, but I have to think Ottawa is looking for takers.
I don't see Kaberle going to San Jose . . . not with Boyle there. That being said, would love the thought of getting either Setoguchi or Clowe in return for Kabbie . . . just don't see it.
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2010 : 06:44:34
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[i]Originally posted by irvine[/i]
[br]Also, Huet to an EU club is a great choice, to me.
You lose his hit from the cap books, which is ideally what you want. And, you only pay a portion of his salary. Which, is less than paying him full value to play in the minors.
So not only do they free up the full cap hit, they pay less than they would if he played in the minors. Also, you don't disturb any development of your farm goalies, but having a veteran, highly overpaid netminder taking their spot.
Irvine/prez.
Huet would have to agree to this don't forget ,, personally i would say no,, you signed me trade me or play me
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 07/13/2010 : 07:22:47
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Huet would have a say to a degree.
It all depends on what his contract states. He may have no say not all. Who knows.
Also,
He may agree to it if he does not want to play in the AHL. To most, a good EU league is better than playing in the AHL. Which is why we see a lot of older guys playing EU, rather than the AHL.
If Huet wants to make his full paycheck, and still play, the EU may be the only way to go. As, a buyout would see money lost from his salary. He loses a certain percentage.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 08:30:29
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Maxim Lapierre signs 1 year deal 900k with Montreal.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 09:54:43
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Roman Wick signs with OTT
Jared Boll signs with Jackets
Carle and Wyman sign with Montreal
Willie Dsjardons hired by Dallas for Assistant coach
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 10:52:57
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Mike Modano will not sign in Detroit.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/13/2010 : 11:47:03
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Daniel Carcillo re-signs.
Daryl Sydor retires,now assistant coach with Houston AHL
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Posted - 07/14/2010 : 09:52:59
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Kovalchuk Free Agent Saga Update:
Kovalchuk and agent were in LA; Kovalchuk left LA last night, and reportedly his agent has now left as well. Presumably both are now taking the counter-offer back to NJ to try and bump up the price there, so that they can then go back and further bump up the price/terms in LA (where it appears he REALLY wants to play in the first place).
Reports in the past commented on the fact that Kovie's wife wants to jump start her singing career in LA, and that he and the wife like the sunshine there.
I wonder if Frolov is waiting for Kovalchuk to sign or not, and if the Kaberle deal is also waiting on this. How many trades will happen right after Kovalchuk signs, probably with LA? I wonder.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:15:03
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Pavol Demitra signs 1 year deal in Russia
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:20:04
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Here are some rumors from Eklund
* More and more people are saying the Kings and Kovalchuk are dead. I have been around long enough to know to stay as "far away as humanly possible" from that conclusion at this point. It is intriguing to note the owners are feeling the pressure to make this happen more than Lombardi.
* With an increase in Season Tickets to justify...will the Kings go after Vinny Lecavalier? People who generally deny such things are notably silent. Gagne is also an option, as well as Marc Savard. I am of the belief Gagne will be a King either way.
* All this comes into play as a third team has entered the Kovalchuk Sweeps (or as one source has termed it as of today, "The Clusterchuk Sweeps"...The San Jose Sharks. They would have to move Thornton to make this happen...likely to a team out East who could afford him for one year and would benefit from his scoring and one year deal...
* Speaking of the Toronto Maple Leafs...I am hearing mixed reports regarding Kaberle..some saying Setoguchi, the other...Ryan Clowe. Pavelski is definitely not being moved right now. That is all that appears certain.
* The Canadiens meanwhile have looked into acquiring Nikita Filatov from the Blue Jackets. One source went so far as to say it was "down to the Habs, Penguins, and Canucks for Filatov...with Montreal having the best offer on the table..Other Hab possibles are Arron Asham, Marek Svatos and Willie Mitchell. Asham is a much better and far more veratile player most than people realize.
* The NY Islanders are also in on Asham, as well as showing interest in a pair of Hawks: Patrick Sharp, and Antti Niemi...
* The Buffalo Sabres are in on a potential big deal as well with the LA Kings or NJ Devils...They may play a big part in teams clearing space. I also could see them getting in on Filatov as well.
* Conspiracy Theory of the Day! The Sharks also may make a move for Niemi, especially if the Hawks are forced to walk away from an arbitration ruling...because the Hawks are out of money after matching the Sharks offer sheet...(hmmm..well played Mr. Wilson, well played indeed!)
*Obviously, the Sharks can only make one move, but it does appear that Doug Wilson (who is always great with contingency plans, had several ready to go and react to the situation)
* The Flames continue to kick tires with Savard in Boston and Semin in Washington. A source I talked to today added, "Kovalchuk has been discussed as well, but only if the Kovalchuk camp were to opt for "their plan B." I of course inquired about "plan B" and was told it would be the 3 year/$31M or 2 year/22M plan. This option would open up "if the Kings, Devils and (now Sharks) are unable to get a deal done. Although it is somewhat uncertain if the Sharks are more of a "plan B" team as well. Other Plan B teams include: The Rangers, Islanders, Capitals, Leafs, Canucks, Avalanche, and Wild...
* The Wild are one team who are rumored to be considering an offer sheet to Bobby Ryan. While the Ducks have made it clear they will not trade Ryan, as the Canadiens reportedly have looked into, rumors of offer sheets and trades abound...
* Wondering what Russian the Flyers may bring in to help with Zherdev?...I am told Slava Kozlov is a possibility.
* The Devils, my favorites to land Kovalchuk as of this hour, are also in on Kaberle, as well as Wild D-man Brent Burns.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:25:55
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Here are more
Minnesota wont land Bobby Ryan since they traded thir 2nd round pick.
Here si a quote from Mxim Afinogenov himself.“I wouldn’t mind staying in Atlanta but the current offers from the team are not satisfactory.”
Anaheim wont sign Modano.
Hawks focus on Niemi now.
Bieksa admits he is a trade target
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 16:25:12
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MIN has resigned Koivu to a 7yr/47M deal. Avg payout is 6.7M per year, NMC.
Suddenly Kesler's deal is looking a lot better... |
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 16:55:58
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]MIN has resigned Koivu to a 7yr/47M deal. Avg payout is 6.7M per year, NMC.
Suddenly Kesler's deal is looking a lot better...
He's good, really good....but not THAT good |
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Tiller33
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 17:35:20
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No kidding I was critical of the Kesler deal when it was announced but this is a bit out there.
For a guy that hasn't broken 22 goals and 71 pts $6.7 million for 7 years is definately a head scratcher. |
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 20:12:57
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Head scratcher? Seriously? Look at the big picture, and consider ALL of Mikko's assets (not just goals and assists).
1) he's a top defensive forward, technically should be top three in voting for the Selke every year last three, but he plays in Minny
2) one of the top face off guys in the league
3) He's below a point a game player, but consider that he plays on a very defensive, low scoring team.
4) And the big one: he is willing to stay in Minnesota, and is the full time captain now, and is the true team leader.
You can't put a price on that last one, boys. Seriously. Especially taking into account the way Gaborik left, and how desperate they are for any kind of star there . . . it's starting to look like Edmonton without the rabid Canadian support (which is one of the lone plusses of a place like Edmonton, and cannot be denied). It's huge that he actually wants to stay and be the face of the franchise.
No, I actually think it's a fair deal in today's market.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/15/2010 : 21:55:53
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...and how desperate they are for any kind of star there
I think that pretty much sums up this contract offer Slozo. You're right, MIN is desperate to keep someone good, and I think that desperation showed today.
I see Kesler and Koivu as very similar actually - all the things you just said about Koivu I would say about Kesler. Even point totals and point trends are the same. My god, they are even the same sizes! Kesler is 2 years younger, no biggie.
IMO, they are worth the same amount of money.
For comparison sake, here is a list of centres that are making >6.5M:
- Malkin (also plays wing, so not a true C)
- Crosby
- Spezza
- Gomez
- Drury
- B. Richards
- Staal
- Thornton
- Briere (also plays wing)
- Savard (but cap hit is less)
- Datsyuk (also at 6.7)
- Stastny
- Horcoff
- Toews (makes less than Koivu)
Most of this list is a lot better than Koivu (Drury, Gomez, Briere were bad signings too, and I won't get into Horcoff cause Beans will get mad  ). Toews? Datsyuk at the same value? Staal only makes a few 100K more.
I think MIN got a bit desperate, and had some money to throw at Koivu, and they did it. |
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