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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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 Posted - 06/22/2010 : 16:42:51
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Nabby is done in SJ what do you think????
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sharksfan44
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Posted - 06/22/2010 : 16:53:22
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| will be hard to replace, but i cant say that i'll miss him. He never lost us a game or series, but he never won us one either. Once again he will be hard to replace and i am sad to see him go but at the same time i think this is the right move for the sharks. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 06/22/2010 : 17:08:12
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I can't really say its much of a surprise - the rumours were there, everyone was aware of the cap issues that would have been facing the Sharks - if they want to keep their team intact and have any shot at all of keeping Marleau, they could only really dedicate 2-3M to goaltending.
The question now is, who comes in? I can't believe they're going to go with Greiss, so they'll have to sign a UFA. My guess is they'll make a play for Mason, or possibly Emery (if he's healthy). |
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polishexpress
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Posted - 06/22/2010 : 17:19:21
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| They are definitely going in the direction of Hawks, Flyers etc. in terms of goaltending, but will they choose the right guy for the job? |
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/22/2010 : 21:17:16
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San Jose has had a history of finding prime goalies. At one time, Nabokov, Toskala, and Kipprusoff were all in the Sharks system at one time. I agree that Greiss does not seem to be the guy, but at the same time he only gets about 10 games a year playing behind Nabokov. He might be the guy that none of us know about.
I also think Nabokov lands a job with a contender. Washington and Philly come to mind. I would also put LA as an outside shot if Nabokov is interested in staying in Sunny California. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 06/22/2010 : 22:53:48
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Beans, I agree - Nabokov must certainly now be on Washington's radar - he's Russian and he's a huge upgrade from what they had last year. He'd have to take a discount, WASH can't afford 6M for a goalie - but I'd have to think that a chance to play for WAS and possibly win a cup would be attractive to him. I would guess his upcoming contract will be his last.
Phili might be an option too. I don't think LA is looking for a goalie. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/23/2010 : 04:27:16
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Originally posted by sharksfan44
will be hard to replace, but i cant say that i'll miss him. He never lost us a game or series, but he never won us one either. Once again he will be hard to replace and i am sad to see him go but at the same time i think this is the right move for the sharks.
That is exact same what I would say,and if you watch the interview with Dan Rusanowsky and Doug Wilson,also the article on NHL.com he hints that he has to sign Pavs,Seto,Scotty,Manny and Ortie he says nothing about Marleau so that means he might be moving on.
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Guest8241
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Posted - 06/25/2010 : 05:52:13
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Hmm....Semin traded to clear cap space for Nabby?
Thoughts? |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/29/2010 : 11:49:15
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Originally posted by Guest8241
Hmm....Semin traded to clear cap space for Nabby?
Thoughts?
Where on Earth did you hear Semin was traded.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 04:47:44
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Nabby still not signed asking for too much money.I would feel nervous if I were him.He probably go to the KHL where they have tons of cash.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 13:44:23
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Yep went to KHL.
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 14:17:19
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Indeed he did, and I can't say i'm surprised.
If Nabokov wanted/expected more than $4M per season, it was only going to come from the KHL. And, it did.
He signed a 4-year, $6M per year contract in the KHL. No NHL team was willing to pay that for a goaltender this year, I don't think. All teams are seeking (or seem to be), cheaper alternatives.
Is Nabokov worth $6M per year? Perhaps. He is among (numbers wise), the elite goalies in the NHL. But, he's not going to get that.
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 05:34:41
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Yeah, it really seems that Nabakov was a victim of the market for goalies at this time, and a victim of the past playoffs having the goalies they did.
This is huge for the KHL though, and make no mistake about it, the NHL is getting itchy about others (especially the Russian stars) following suit.
But I bet you he comes back in a year or two.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 10:43:44
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When you put the shoe on the other foot for a second, this is not a surprise.
Picture a Canadian playing in the KHL who is about 35 years old and he gets told he can stay in Moscow for $1 million a season or he can go and play for the Oilers (least liked NHL team in recent player polls) for $2 million a season.
Where do you think that Canadian's gonna play??
Exactly as Irvine said, he would have been lucky to get a $8M for 2 year deal. Instead he gets $24M over 4 and gets to play in his home country.
No brainer to me. |
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Guest2880
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 14:51:58
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I honestly think Nabokov is waaay overrated and just about any goalie would get 40 wins with that team in front of him. For instance imagine if brodeur played there in his prime
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Guest2879
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 16:38:05
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| What if Nabokov played for those devils teams in his prime. We might be talking a few stanley cups on his resume. Some of those devils teams were powerhouses of their day. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 16:41:56
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Guest2880[/i]
[br]I honestly think Nabokov is waaay overrated and just about any goalie would get 40 wins with that team in front of him. For instance imagine if brodeur played there in his prime
This is just ill-informed thinking.
There have been various teams through the years who have been significantly better than the Sharks and their goalies did not have 40 win seasons. In facts, a 40+ win season has happened just 44 times in the entire span of the NHL. Furthermore, there are10 goalies in the history of the game who have more than 1-40 win season.
Broduer has 8
Sawchuck, Kiprusoff, Plante, and Nabokov have with 3 each.
Perent, Belfour, Luongo, Miller, and Dryden have 2 each.
It's maybe a fluke once (guys like Turek and Kolzig come to mind) but to have 3?? To have more than anyone else except Brodeur??
Give credit where credit is do. Nabokov was(is) an amazing regular season goalie and if he had a Cup or 2, he would be in some people's top 5 all time list, but most people's top 10 all time list. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 19:22:35
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[i]Originally posted by Beans15[/i]
Furthermore, there are10 goalies in the history of the game who have more than 1-40 win season.
Broduer has 8
Sawchuck, Kiprusoff, Plante, and Nabokov have with 3 each.
Perent, Belfour, Luongo, Miller, and Dryden have 2 each.
It's maybe a fluke once (guys like Turek and Kolzig come to mind) but to have 3?? To have more than anyone else except Brodeur??
Wow, awesome stat(s) there Beans! Really puts it into perspective. Would have thought Dryden would have a few more but he did share the net a fair amount back in his day. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 19:48:31
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[i]Originally posted by Beans15[/i]
[br]quote:
[i]Originally posted by Guest2880[/i]
[br]I honestly think Nabokov is waaay overrated and just about any goalie would get 40 wins with that team in front of him. For instance imagine if brodeur played there in his prime
This is just ill-informed thinking.
There have been various teams through the years who have been significantly better than the Sharks and their goalies did not have 40 win seasons. In facts, a 40+ win season has happened just 44 times in the entire span of the NHL. Furthermore, there are10 goalies in the history of the game who have more than 1-40 win season.
Broduer has 8
Sawchuck, Kiprusoff, Plante, and Nabokov have with 3 each.
Perent, Belfour, Luongo, Miller, and Dryden have 2 each.
It's maybe a fluke once (guys like Turek and Kolzig come to mind) but to have 3?? To have more than anyone else except Brodeur??
Give credit where credit is do. Nabokov was(is) an amazing regular season goalie and if he had a Cup or 2, he would be in some people's top 5 all time list, but most people's top 10 all time list.
No Patrick Roy? That's really suprising. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/09/2010 : 05:47:52
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Roy has one. I only listed the guys who had more than 1.
Bottom line, Nabokov gets the beat down because he did not win the playoffs. Ultimately, it's warranted. He simply couldn't win when it counted.
But, he did win a TON of games. 293 puts him only at 27 on the all time win list, but he is also one of only 2 goalies in the top 30 all time wins who have less than 600 games played. Of those 30 goalies, he is 7th in win %. His save % is just 2 points behind the great Marty Brodeur.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2010 : 06:11:01
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Nabby is not the worst goalie ever his 293 wins is more than.
Jonny Bower
Gerry Cheevers
Bernie Parent
Ken Dryden
Ed Giacomin
Darren Puppa
Lorne Chabot
Roberto Luongo
Marty Turco
Dwayne Roloson
Trevor Kidd
Georges Vezina
Miikka Kiprussoff
J-S Giguere
Kelly Hrudey
And more.....
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Guest4769
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Posted - 07/09/2010 : 10:43:35
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| cool but wut does that prove jumbo joe |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2010 : 10:53:40
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[i]Originally posted by Guest4769[/i]
[br]cool but wut does that prove jumbo joe
It proves he i snot a bad Goalie alot of people say he is.I just put that list there to show that he has more wins than all those great Goalies.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 07/09/2010 : 13:02:23
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[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
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[i]Originally posted by Guest4769[/i]
[br]cool but wut does that prove jumbo joe
It proves he i snot a bad Goalie alot of people say he is.I just put that list there to show that he has more wins than all those great Goalies.
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Not sure but i don't think anyone's calling him a "bad" goalie and if they are, they're not smart. To call someone overrated is very debateable as it really depends on who's opinion you're comparing his value to. |
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Nabokov - Done in San Jose 
