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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
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 Posted - 07/05/2010 : 14:32:43
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The OPP have confirmed that former NHL enforcer Bob Probert has died after being rushed to hospital with vital signs absent after collapsing in a boat on Lake St. Clair on Monday.
One of the NHL's most famous goons has passed away.
What do you think about this????
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 07/05/2010 : 14:33:55
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I what happened to him.I loved watching him drop the gloves.
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 07/05/2010 : 14:45:20
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What do I think about it? I'm not sure, I guess.
Of course the loss of any human being is tragic, but we know it is bound to happen at some point in time. It is inevitable.
With that being said, he was an excellent enforcer in the NHL. Never afraid to drop the mitts with anybody who wanted to go.
Tragic for his family. Wish them all the best while mourning their loss.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 07/05/2010 : 15:29:24
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I forgot to mention that he was 45 years old.
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 07/05/2010 : 17:07:57
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I think the thing about Probert that is lost in translation is that he was actually a decent hockey player. By no means a super star, but he did have multiple 40 pt seasons, a couple of 20+ goal season, and played in an All-Star game(on the same line as Wayne Gretzky).
Gone are the days where the team enforcer could actually play hockey well enough to take enough 1st line shifts and not hurt the team. Probert was one the the best in that regard.
Tough life, fought some demons, solid hockey player. It's a loss to the hockey world. |
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willus3
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Posted - 07/05/2010 : 19:33:20
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[i]Originally posted by Beans15[/i]
[br]I think the thing about Probert that is lost in translation is that he was actually a decent hockey player. By no means a super star, but he did have multiple 40 pt seasons, a couple of 20+ goal season, and played in an All-Star game(on the same line as Wayne Gretzky).
Gone are the days where the team enforcer could actually play hockey well enough to take enough 1st line shifts and not hurt the team. Probert was one the the best in that regard.
Tough life, fought some demons, solid hockey player. It's a loss to the hockey world.
Well said Beans. Well said. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 04:42:02
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He died of a heart attack.While boating with his family and friends.The Hpspital could'nt save him.
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 08:15:16
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"fought demons" - cokehead and alcoholic, abusive person
You know, for me personally, I don't feel any need to sugarcoat a person's foibles just because they are dead, so I provide translation above. Let's be frank about this too - at 45, after you have been a superbly conditioned athlete for decades, you are not supposed to drop dead of a heart attack (alleged cause of death). Clearly, he was off the wagon.
Yeah, he was the best and toughest dude around for a long time, and had scoring and playmaking skill to boot. But in terms of sympathy for guys that had it all and abused themselves (and possibly others) so badly . . . I don't have a pinch of sympathy for those guys.
So, nothing to say other than that.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 12:21:57
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I know where you're coming from Slozo as it's tough to watch these mega rich athletes throw away their lives, careers, money, etc when they get hooked on illegal substances but no comment is prob better than piling on at a sad time like this. Don't get me wrong, i don't mean that in a negative way to your post, in fact i think you were respectful in the way you said what you said, but i've heard others (radio) discussing Probert's death and bringing nothing but negative comments towards the discussion. IMO, that's just wrong at a time like this.
Probert was def one of the best enforcers/goons to play the game and as has been pointed out, had some skill to mix into his game as well. You don't see many guys like him anymore and the goons nowadays seem to be there for just on reason and a couple of 40 sec shifts?
It's a shame these athletes (and you could throw in pretty much all famous people with money like actors, movie stars, etc) go down the wrong path so often. It's such a waste but it's not all that shocking when you give the kind of money they do nowadays to guys who really haven't matured yet. Imagine being a rookie in the NHL and at only 19 you've yet to fully mature. Throw a wad of cash in kid's pocket and a lot of the time, those kids are gonna get themselves into something they shouldn't!
Regardless, sad story, especially the fact that he leaves behind a wife and four children.... |
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 13:30:26
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Well, to each there own. In my opinion, unless you have battled those demons yourself or have had someone very close to you battle those demons, it's pretty easy to be black or white on it.
That being said, Probert was recognized well before his passing in the community for the positive things he did. I will always think of him in a positive light. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 13:55:12
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[i]Originally posted by Beans15[/i]
[br]Well, to each there own. In my opinion, unless you have battled those demons yourself or have had someone very close to you battle those demons, it's pretty easy to be black or white on it.
That being said, Probert was recognized well before his passing in the community for the positive things he did. I will always think of him in a positive light.
That is exactly what your supposed to do when someone die's remember the positive stuff about him not the negatives.
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leigh
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 14:21:36
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I watched him play through the years and I'll never forget the battles between him and Domi. They were epic! Probert would win one, Domi would win another - back and forth it would go. They were so opposite in stature, which I think made the fights so mezmorizing to watch. Incredible!
He was a mean SOB! You never knew when he was going to snap. I always tried not to make eye contact with him...and I was just watching him on television. |
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Posted - 07/06/2010 : 15:57:51
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Alex - I appreciate that you respect where I am coming from . . . but where are these "negative" eulogies? Seriously, the reason I am perturbed at the whole fuss being kicked up is that, as usual, the media only chooses to glorify in death what would be impossible in life. It's a manipulative way to force someone to not say something bad about someone, for fear of 'disrespect'. If you can show me one little negative comment about Probert right now in an article, I bet it's countered with a dozen glowing articles never mentioning the longtime coke addiction, the longtime alcohol abuse, the police arrests and incidents, the physical altercations off the ice (that we know of, of course - many are always covered up). Sure, Probert might have been nice to your face as a fan at many times, great . . . I just find a very hard time swallowing the deification of a guy who, if a normal Joe Blow like you or I, would be doing hard time in prison.
I don't feel like piling on, no . . . and don't feel I have. Just call it as I see it, and I don't need to have been a drug addict or a millionaire athlete to make a comment about it.
I don't think I am being black or white when I state facts, Beans. You will notice I stated his athletic career in just the same way.
And I will leave it at that.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 07/08/2010 : 18:38:59
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[i]Originally posted by slozo[/i]
[br]Alex - I appreciate that you respect where I am coming from . . . but where are these "negative" eulogies?
Right in the line where i said "....i don't mean that in a negative way to your post, in fact i think you were respectful in the way you said what you said, but i've heard others (radio) discussing Probert's death and bringing nothing but negative comments towards the discussion" |
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Bob Probert - Dead at 45 
