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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
 Posted - 07/12/2010 : 15:39:13
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With the Hawks mathcing Hammer's offer sheet contract from the Sharks, it is quite obvious that the Sharks are on the market to solidify the blue line that has lost Rob Blake. Who are some viable options....Also we might want to note that they are after versatile, agile, d-men and not the big shutdown defender type but then again size is hard to ignore
Kaberle
Bieksa
Schubert
Schenn
Wisnieski (offer sheet)
Pothier
S Morrisson
Krajicek
Lilja
Ranger (offer sheet)
Staal (offer sheet)
Franson (offer sheet)
Liles
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 15:45:47
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If I were DW this is what I would do.
Sign Lilja
Offer Staal or Wisnewski
Trade's
To COL
Petrecki
Mitchell
To SJ
Liles
To TOR
Setoguchi
2nd and 4h round pick
To SJ
Schenn or Beauchimen
And I would do this
To CHI
Doherty
Zalewski
1st round pick
To SJ
Hjalmarsson
3rd round pick
All of these trades seem even for both sides but the last one is up there because I would try that if I were GM.The offers and signings are good the most possible trade is the first one COL/SJ.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/12/2010 : 15:46:41
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Marc Staal is an interesting one, he is similar to Ryan in that he has no arbitration rights as an RFA, so NYR can't protect his rights with anything. Although NYR is up against the cap (4M left to sign 2 players), if an offer sheet came in for Staal at the same as Hjalmarsson I think they would match it without delay. They have been talking about eating Redden's contract in the minors, which would free up more than enough room.
Still, I'd like to see someone take a run at him, he's a capable defenceman with lots of upside.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 07/13/2010 : 08:47:50
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
[br]If I were DW this is what I would do.
Sign Lilja
Offer Staal or Wisnewski
Trade's
To COL
Petrecki
Mitchell
To SJ
Liles
To TOR
Setoguchi
2nd and 4h round pick
To SJ
Schenn or Beauchimen
And I would do this
To CHI
Doherty
Zalewski
1st round pick
To SJ
Hjalmarsson
3rd round pick
All of these trades seem even for both sides but the last one is up there because I would try that if I were GM.The offers and signings are good the most possible trade is the first one COL/SJ.
GO SHARKS GO
Interesting moves..... I think the Setoguchi one, most leaf fans would take in a heartbeat if it was for Beauchemin? Maybe not Schenn as he still has some developing to do and may yet be a top2 guy? Beauchemin is not bad, but replaceable IMO.
Don't really know anything about the two guys in the Chi deal (Doherty / Zalewski?) so can't comment there but after the offer sheet was matched, i doubt these two make a trade!
Liles is an okey dman and that trade could work i suppose, albeit, it's not really all that significant of a trade to comment on.  |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 13:37:01
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Alex116[/i]
[br]quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
[br]If I were DW this is what I would do.
Sign Lilja
Offer Staal or Wisnewski
Trade's
To COL
Petrecki
Mitchell
To SJ
Liles
To TOR
Setoguchi
2nd and 4h round pick
To SJ
Schenn or Beauchimen
And I would do this
To CHI
Doherty
Zalewski
1st round pick
To SJ
Hjalmarsson
3rd round pick
All of these trades seem even for both sides but the last one is up there because I would try that if I were GM.The offers and signings are good the most possible trade is the first one COL/SJ.
GO SHARKS GO
Interesting moves..... I think the Setoguchi one, most leaf fans would take in a heartbeat if it was for Beauchemin? Maybe not Schenn as he still has some developing to do and may yet be a top2 guy? Beauchemin is not bad, but replaceable IMO.
Don't really know anything about the two guys in the Chi deal (Doherty / Zalewski?) so can't comment there but after the offer sheet was matched, i doubt these two make a trade!
Liles is an okey dman and that trade could work i suppose, albeit, it's not really all that significant of a trade to comment on.
Zalewski is a prospect who is doing great in the AHL and is a n RFA this year.Doherty is the Sharks best prospect a defenseman who is 18 and is 6'9''.Chicago might do that.Because I dont hink SJ is done with Hjalmarsson and Chicago yet.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 13:40:28
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Here are a few forwards the Sharks were targeting.
Lee Stempniak,Possible if Seto is traded
Owen Nolan,Calgary has done it bring back former players
Mike Modano,Veteran Leadership
Raffi Torres,He is the most likely to go to SJ if Clowe is traded
Arron Asham,Can replace Manny
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
500 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 14:13:40
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If I were Doug Wilson I would go after Andy Sutton. He is a great shot blocker and an amazing open ice hitter. If he could get him for around 3 mil I think it would be a great signing.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 07/13/2010 : 15:54:51
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
......Doherty is the Sharks best prospect a defenseman who is 18 and is 6'9''.Chicago might do that.Because I dont hink SJ is done with Hjalmarsson and Chicago yet.
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He's their "best prospect? Is that YOUR opinion? It certainly isn't the opinion of "hockeyfutures.com" as they have him ranked as the Sharks #13 prospect and 5th ranked Dman. Granted Demers is one of the guys ahead of him so that'd make him 4th i suppose?
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2010 : 08:26:11
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What about this one
To VAN
Setoguchi
1st or 2nd round pick
To SJ
Edler
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Tiller33
PickupHockey Pro
389 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2010 : 08:47:31
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
[br]What about this one
To VAN
Setoguchi
1st or 2nd round pick
To SJ
Edler
Dude do you just put put 2 teams assets in a hat and draw names?
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
500 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2010 : 08:48:26
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That is way to much for Edler maybe a prospect and a late round pick but Edler is not worth more than Kaberle.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/14/2010 : 09:29:24
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| Joe, you are off your rocker. Edler is about as untouchable as the Sedins in Vancouver, and with good reason. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:08:25
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[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]Joe, you are off your rocker. Edler is about as untouchable as the Sedins in Vancouver, and with good reason.
Well besides Thornton,Marleau and Heatley who would you want for Alexander Edler.Seto 1st round pick,Clowe,Pavelski.
Edler for Vlasic and a pick,I would do that.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:34:52
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Well besides Thornton,Marleau and Heatley who would you want for Alexander Edler.Seto 1st round pick,Clowe,Pavelski.
Edler for Vlasic and a pick,I would do that.
Untouchable means untouchable. I cannot think of a trade right now involving Edler that would make any sense for the Canucks (both from a player mix position and a cap position), or for the team trying to acquire him. I value Edler much higher than Vlasic, and SJ picks are not worth much as long as they keep finishing in the top-2 during the regular season.
Edler is just coming off his "breakout time", and during the playoffs emerged as the type of player that the Canucks hoped he would blossom into - hard hitting, scoring, lots of minutes. He is signed to an (IMO) very cap-friendly 3.25 for the next 3 years, and if he continues next year like he played in the playoffs, he'll be a steal at that price for those remaining 3 years. Further, he provides a hedge in the event that they cannot re-sign Erhoff. Why on earth would they trade him now?
On the other hand, Bieksa is earning 500K more, and is not as good a dman, and is a UFA next year. Gillis knows which one is getting the boot.
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:54:13
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
[br]quote:
[i]Originally posted by nuxfan[/i]
[br]Joe, you are off your rocker. Edler is about as untouchable as the Sedins in Vancouver, and with good reason.
Well besides Thornton,Marleau and Heatley who would you want for Alexander Edler.Seto 1st round pick,Clowe,Pavelski.
Edler for Vlasic and a pick,I would do that.
GO SHARKS GO
A 24 year old d man who has put up a 37 and 40 point season already........ yeah Vlasic is good but no way jose,, these types of players are the kind you build the entire back end of your team around,,, like you said nuxxy untouchable,,
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 13:55:30
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but i mean because we're pals nux fan you'll trade him to my habs for say Roman Hamirlik ?? straight up,, i mean i think thats faire,,,,, i'll throw in a Guinness 
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/15/2010 : 22:02:31
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oooh... Hamrlik. I'd trade for him just for the name, every team should want a player named Hamrlik.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 12:42:36
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The Sharks were reportedly trying to aqquire Luke Schenn from Toronton who or what do you think Burke would want to trade Schenn to San Jose.I would try a blockbuster trade like this.
To TOR
Setoguchi
Petrecki
Zalewski
1st round pick
2nd round pick
Greiss
Maybe another prospect or pick
To SJ
Gustavsson
Schenn
Beauchimen
Gunnarsson
Too much or not enough
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 13:18:38
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ah, Joe, I think you forgot to add Kessel, Heatley, Thorton, Marleau, and Kaberle, and every draft pick that either team has for the next 5 years to that deal  |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 13:27:34
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
[br]The Sharks were reportedly trying to aqquire Luke Schenn from Toronton who or what do you think Burke would want to trade Schenn to San Jose.I would try a blockbuster trade like this.
To TOR
Setoguchi
Petrecki
Zalewski
1st round pick
2nd round pick
Greiss
Maybe another prospect or pick
To SJ
Gustavsson
Schenn
Beauchimen
Gunnarsson
Too much or not enough
GO SHARKS GO
and the NHL 2010 computer says............
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 13:45:18
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I'm just messing around, but maybe a trade with edmonton would work. Something like Clowe, Murray, Mitchell or huskins for Souray, Smid, cogliano. Also sign Nolan
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Dany Heatley ($7.500m) / Joe Thornton ($7.200m) / Patrick Marleau ($6.900m)
Logan Couture ($1.241m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Devin Setoguchi ($3.200m)
Jamie McGinn ($0.996m) / Andrew Cogliano ($1.500m) / Owen Nolan ($1.500m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.543m) / Scott Nichol ($0.760m) / Benn Ferriero ($0.850m)
Cameron MacIntyre ($0.600m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ladislav Smid ($1.300m) / Dan Boyle ($6.666m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / Sheldon Souray ($5.400m)
Niclas Wallin ($2.500m) / Jason Demers ($0.543m)
Jay Leach ($0.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Antero Niittymaki ($2.000m) /Thomas Greiss ($0.550m)
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY: $327,500
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,679,167; BONUSES: $930,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $650,832
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Tiller33
PickupHockey Pro
389 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 14:41:25
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Jumbo Joe Rocks[/i]
[br]The Sharks were reportedly trying to aqquire Luke Schenn from Toronton who or what do you think Burke would want to trade Schenn to San Jose.I would try a blockbuster trade like this.
To TOR
Setoguchi
Petrecki
Zalewski
1st round pick
2nd round pick
Greiss
Maybe another prospect or pick
To SJ
Gustavsson
Schenn
Beauchimen
Gunnarsson
Too much or not enough
GO SHARKS GO
Yuo really need to stop with these trades that are ridiculously in favour of the sharks. I know we are all guilty of wanting the best deal for our team but some of the proposals you have put forth are bordering on insane. |
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The Duke
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1239 Posts |
Posted - 07/19/2010 : 18:48:24
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| Jumbo Joe...if i were a NHL GM ( and you of course ) i would keep in contact with you a lot ))). Big Joe may end up in Toronto Yet...you never know, i think SJ wants some changing, nothing done yet this year. |
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Guest2883
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Posted - 07/20/2010 : 11:54:43
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How about these.
Trade with Blues:
Heatley for McDonald and Pietrangelo
Trade with Rangers:
Clowe, Murray and a 1st for M. Staal
Trade with Flyers:
McDonald for Briere
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.200m) / * Devin Setoguchi ($3.200m)
Briere ($6.500m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Logan Couture ($1.242m)
Jamie McGinn ($0.997m) / * Modano ($2.000m) / Torrey Mitchell ($1.367m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.543m) / Scott Nichol ($0.760m) / Benn Ferriero ($0.850m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / * Staal ($4.500m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / * Pietrangelo ($3.200m)
Niclas Wallin ($2.500m) / Jason Demers ($0.543m)
GOALTENDERS
Antero Niittymaki ($2.000m) / Thomas Greiss ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 20; CAP:$59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $0.328m;
PAYROLL: $58.946m; CAP ROOM: $1.384m; BONUSES: $0.930m |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2010 : 12:00:51
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by The Duke[/i]
[br]Jumbo Joe...if i were a NHL GM ( and you of course ) i would keep in contact with you a lot ))). Big Joe may end up in Toronto Yet...you never know, i think SJ wants some changing, nothing done yet this year.
Yes I agree with you Joe will probably end up in Toronto and I was just saying some of the players involved could be Kaberle,Gunnarsson,Beauchimen,Schenn and Gustavsson.
If I were Doug Wilson I would give Heatley to the leafs for Bozak and a pick.As a Sharks fan I didnt enjoy it with Heatley there.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
410 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2010 : 12:04:14
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quote:
[i]Originally posted by Guest2883[/i]
[br]How about these.
Trade with Blues:
Heatley for McDonald and Pietrangelo
Trade with Rangers:
Clowe, Murray and a 1st for M. Staal
Trade with Flyers:
McDonald for Briere
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.200m) / * Devin Setoguchi ($3.200m)
Briere ($6.500m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Logan Couture ($1.242m)
Jamie McGinn ($0.997m) / * Modano ($2.000m) / Torrey Mitchell ($1.367m)
Frazer McLaren ($0.543m) / Scott Nichol ($0.760m) / Benn Ferriero ($0.850m)
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / * Staal ($4.500m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / * Pietrangelo ($3.200m)
Niclas Wallin ($2.500m) / Jason Demers ($0.543m)
GOALTENDERS
Antero Niittymaki ($2.000m) / Thomas Greiss ($0.550m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 20; CAP:$59.4m; CARRY-OVER PENALTY: $0.328m;
PAYROLL: $58.946m; CAP ROOM: $1.384m; BONUSES: $0.930m
And everyone says my trades can be crazy.Not to be a critic or anything but too much for Modano,But I like the Pietrangolo,Briere and Staal idea.It would be great if the Sharks could pick up Afinogenov I dont believe they have a Russian on their NHL roster.
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