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bananas
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 Posted - 11/01/2010 : 22:14:41
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I think Sutter broke his spirit. Anybody else think both Calgary and Iginla would be better off if he moved on?
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 11/01/2010 : 22:54:08
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Wow! Never thought i'd hear this question asked. Certainly not a few years ago. BUT, if the Flames are eliminated, or at least close to that, by the deadline, i suppose it's not that far fetched? As much as many would love to see him retire a career Flame, it would make a lot of sense for the organization to move him to a contender for picks! Might be something he'd like too? It'll be interesting to see what happens come March?
Man he'd look good in a 'Nucks jersey! 
Okay, okay, i can dream though?  |
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Beans15
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 08:29:26
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Inginla is starting to show his age. Key word, starting. Calgary needs to take a good look in the mirror and ask themselves if they want to be the kind of team that wants to compete in the middle of the pack year after year or if they want to win a Cup. If they want to win a Cup, they won't do it with the team they have today. Using Iginla in a trade today would do wonders to kick start a rebuild.
The boys on CBC were talking about this on the week end. LA would be a good fit with assets to trade. Plus, they have a ton of cap space so they could work him in without having to trade salary back in return.
However, Sutter, and more so Ken King don't see what most other do. They may compete this year, but it's a maybe. They have nothing in the cupboard to rebuild with and most of the players are aging.
What I fear is there will come a time with Sutter and Sutter are punted, King is gone, most of the other players are gone, and Iginla is standing there is a pile of ashes without having a Ring. It would be a shame to see a class player who has won at every other level of hockey not have a Cup because the management were too ignorant to see the team for what it is. |
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HawkinOilCountry
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 08:46:15
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In my mind trading Iginla while he has value makes a world of sense for a team in desperate need of a major rebuild, but personally a healthy future for Calgary is not why I'd want to see him traded.
Iggy is one of the most talented players in the game, and probably the classiest. It would be a damned shame if his story faded to black without a cup win. If all you needed to win it were spirit, grit and individual talent, he'd have a fist full of rings already. Get this guy on a contender!
The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 10:08:04
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I thought the time to trade him was last summer, but in fairness to the Flames, they no doubt wanted to see if a dissapointing season would light yet another fire under him this season. It has not.
It is probably time to consider trading him, as people say, while he still has some gas in the tank. Perhaps he can become that player again with a change of scenery, it would not be the first time that a move has benefitted a player of his calibre. I saw the same CBC hotstove chat, where they speculated on Iginla, and LA makes a lot of sense for both sides. It also makes LA a lot scarier to face in the west.
The question is, what comes back to Calgary in return? If LA picks up Iginla they are no doubt eying a serious run this year or next year - which means they don't want to dismantle too much of their promising youth to get Iginla. But you don't get Iginla-type players for free. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking something like:
To LA:
- Iginla
- White (or some other bit that is not in their plans beyond this year)
To CGY:
- Johnson
- Simmonds
- a draft pick
Thats a fairly steep price for LA to pay, but I can't see someone like Iginla going for much less. |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 13:18:51
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At first glance, nuxfan, that seems like a viable trade, but would Calgary really be looking for an upgrade in defense?
Wouldn't Calgary be looking for help up front if they trade Iginla? (I don't know, honest question, not challenge.)
Really, would Simmonds/Johnson replace Iginla's points?
I doubt Iginla leaves, unless the Sutters feel its either Iginla or their job.
Besides, Iginla's salary is huge, so any team, no matter how much cap space they have(like LA) would still expect to be able to offload salary.
Iggy + White = 10mil cap hit, while Johnson + Simmonds = about 2.5mill
LA is gonna want to throw in some more salary, somehow... |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 15:05:16
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Originally posted by Alex116
Man he'd look good in a 'Nucks jersey!
Okay, okay, i can dream though?
You are a sick man!
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 11/02/2010 : 15:25:41
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Polish - I'm just putting a WAG out there - its really hard to guage fair value for someone like Iginla. If CGY were to trade Iginla, I think it would signal the beginning of a larger rebuild of the Flames, and he would not be the last big name to move - so replacing Iginla's scoring this year would not necessarily be imperative. If they could get a player like Johnson from LA out of it, that frees them up to make other moves on their defensive core.
I don't think that LA would necessarily insist on sending salary the other way, Iginla is not your typical salary dump. LA has the cap space to take on all that salary without giving anything up. Also, if Iginla were put on the block, I don't think LA would be the only bidder for his services. |
Edited by - nuxfan on 11/02/2010 15:27:08 |
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 05:44:43
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Sutter will be fired well before thoughts are formulated about moving Iginla . . . so I think it would be very premature to think the Flames are even thinking about this.
If Sutter gets fired, the new coach doesn't do much better, and the Flames continue to spiral downward by the trade deadline . . . it may be a possibility. But even then, I would doubt it.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Guest0355
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 06:14:38
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 06:28:31
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Originally posted by Guest0355
I think the flames need a guy to play with Iginla.
No that's never been a problem ... THAT'S THE ONLY THING KEEPING THEM FROM GOING DEEP!!!!
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/03/2010 : 19:19:49
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Iggy doesn't have it anymore,
What it is,I have no idea. all he can do is shoot
Go OILERS Go!!! |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2010 : 20:09:20
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Originally posted by sahis34
Iggy doesn't have it anymore,
What it is,I have no idea. all he can do is shoot
Go OILERS Go!!!
Your signature says it all.
You are clouded by your pipe dreams of the Oilers making the playoffs.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
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Yewcandoit
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2010 : 19:30:16
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Calgary definitely needs a change, and more importantly, Iginla needs a change.
Flames could get a lot for him, and it could reignite Iginla's career.
Keep him in Canada though; Canada needs a cup! |
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Should the Flames trade Iginla? 
