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Pasty7
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Posted - 11/07/2010 :  04:41:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Who is the best Back up Goalie in the NHL right now?

Requirements: (must be a true Backup i.e Tim Thomas is not a backup, and lets try and avoid young goalies who should become starters i.e Schenieder. And try and avoid Platoon goalies like the san jose situation)

Pasty

Choices:

Martin Biron
Peter Budaj
Scott Clemmesen
Ty Conklin
Mathieu Garon
Josh Harding
Johan Hedberg
Brent Johnson
Jason Labarbera
Patrick LaLime
Andrew Raycroft
Jose Theodore

Awesome One
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Posted - 11/07/2010 :  06:42:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd have to say Clemmesen.

Anyone who can guide the Devils to a playoff spot without Brodeur deserves the nod.

There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".

Edited by - Awesome One on 11/07/2010 06:42:37
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semin-rules
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Posted - 11/07/2010 :  06:51:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Awesome One

I'd have to say Clemmesen.

Anyone who can guide the Devils to a playoff spot without Brodeur deserves the nod.

There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".



When has he lead the devils to the playoffs without brodeur?
Brodeur will play 90% of the games, and clemmesen hasn't done too much to prove himself either.

I would have to say the penguins Brent Johnson.
He is 6-1-1 with a .943 save % and 1.63 gaa. With faced with over 200 shots.
That's what a back up needs to do, be prepared to face tons of shots and win games when your starter is unable to preform.
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Awesome One
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Posted - 11/08/2010 :  05:42:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by semin-rules

quote:
Originally posted by Awesome One

I'd have to say Clemmesen.

Anyone who can guide the Devils to a playoff spot without Brodeur deserves the nod.

There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".



When has he lead the devils to the playoffs without brodeur?
Brodeur will play 90% of the games, and clemmesen hasn't done too much to prove himself either.

I would have to say the penguins Brent Johnson.
He is 6-1-1 with a .943 save % and 1.63 gaa. With faced with over 200 shots.
That's what a back up needs to do, be prepared to face tons of shots and win games when your starter is unable to preform.



It was 2008-2009 when he had a bruised elbow and only played 31 games.

The injury cost him more than half a season.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".

Edited by - Awesome One on 11/08/2010 05:45:15
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Posted - 11/08/2010 :  07:13:47  Reply with Quote
wheres cory schneider?
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Posted - 11/08/2010 :  07:31:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a very tough poll to vote on, really . . . even taking into account only the true back-ups as you say, I had a tough time not voting for Hedberg, Conklin or Theodore.

But I went with who I think is the overall best back-up at this moment in his career, and that's Marty Biron.

Has two 30 win seasons, has been a starter, and although relegated to a back-up role at this point, he certainly has the chops to be a #1 goalie.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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nuxfan
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Posted - 11/08/2010 :  08:25:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is a tough one - as slozo says, some backups are not true "backups", and are either currently starting or tandem-ing with their respective teams.

For true backups, I look to goalies that have played 4 games or less this year - the rest are tandem goalies IMO, or are starting but were not a team's #1 option coming into the season. My 2 are Hedberg and Schneider (who is not on your list).

Patsy - you seem to have left Schneider off the list because he "should become a starter"? Most of today's starting goalies started their careers as backups or tandems, so I'm not sure why you would exclude him based on this. Although he's playing well now in his role, there is at least a reasonable chance that he will never be a regular starting goalie in the NHL - anything can happen when you're 24. I think you should allow him into the poll based on his current - and in fact the only role he has ever had so far in his NHL career - role as a backup.
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crichards
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Posted - 11/08/2010 :  21:11:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does anyone remember Brian Hayward when he backed up Roy for the Habs in the late 80's? In my opinion they were the best tandem in the league for awhile. Hayward actually played a decent amount of games behind Roy. Not like today, when a big-name starter plays 70+ games.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 11/08/2010 :  21:50:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've always loved the way Msthieu Garon has played the game, He is a true career back up, the only times he has ever had to play more games in a year than his counter part were due to the starters injury or poor play. I remember his early years in Montreal i thought this guy could be every bit the Goalie Theodore was .. Unfortunatly for Garon he was stuck behind a then Hart and Veznia winner.

But what i think is most important with a Backup Goalie he cannot be a distraction to the team rather he has got to be one of the best teamates possible due to his lack of playing time. Mat Garon is just that a class act and the ideal Goalie as a backup.

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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  03:03:04  Reply with Quote
Whomever the best backup goalie is, I bet Montreal would trade him...
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Utemin
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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  17:27:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jonathan Bernier is clearly the best back up, he may be young but his numbers out shine Quick like a spot light to a flash light.

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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  18:04:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andy Moog is the best backup in recent history. If you are talking current, I'd have to go with Shane O'Brien.

The Oil WILL make the playoffs in 2011.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  18:08:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:

Jonathan Bernier is clearly the best back up, he may be young but his numbers out shine Quick like a spot light to a flash light.



They do? A quick NHL stats comparison:

Quick: 61-44-9, 2.54 GAA, .908 SV%
Bernier: 4-3, 2.83 GAA, .906 SV%

Perhaps I'm not clear on the definition of "outshine"

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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  18:20:10  Reply with Quote
Shane Obrien
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Beans15
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Posted - 11/09/2010 :  18:32:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by crichards

Does anyone remember Brian Hayward when he backed up Roy for the Habs in the late 80's? In my opinion they were the best tandem in the league for awhile. Hayward actually played a decent amount of games behind Roy. Not like today, when a big-name starter plays 70+ games.



I remember Hayward and you are right. Killer tandem. Back in the 80's is was very common for a team to have 2 goalies to get 40 games each. I remember Fuhr and Moog through the 8o's being an Oiler fan. Billy Smith and Rollie Melanson. There were a ton of great 80's goalie tandems.
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 11/10/2010 :  12:54:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In the same vein as the last comment, the best tandem I ever saw was Fuhr and Hasek in Buffalo. Think they led, or in the top of stats for goals allowed stats that year, both played lots of games.

Currently I'm gonna go with Biron. Can't really call him a starter except in Philly, but in Buffalo and now New York is earning playing time beside true franchise goalies.

Edited by - JOSHUACANADA on 11/10/2010 13:29:28
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Pasty7
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Posted - 11/10/2010 :  15:00:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Utemin

Jonathan Bernier is clearly the best back up, he may be young but his numbers out shine Quick like a spot light to a flash light.

The Monkey is me



i also said lets avoid young goalies that should become starters and focus more on true back ups

Pasty
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