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Guest4654
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Posted - 12/28/2010 :  11:56:25  Reply with Quote
Well it about damn time.. I can see the other sutter either leaving or being FIRED by the end of the Season..

irvine
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Posted - 12/28/2010 :  12:12:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just read this my self, and see that Jay Feaster has taken over as GM of the Flames.

Not surprising really.

But I do wonder, did he decide this himself? Or, was it a "Step down or be fired" situation.

I'm guessing, it was the latter.

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Guest4654
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Posted - 12/28/2010 :  14:52:23  Reply with Quote
He was asked to step down an he did.. I see Kipper being Moved at Trade deadline...
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Posted - 12/28/2010 :  16:12:44  Reply with Quote
The beginning of the end in calgary
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The Duke
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Posted - 12/28/2010 :  17:44:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Calgary needs complete rebuild mode...see what Iglina fetches before he gets too old.
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doublechamp7
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Posted - 12/28/2010 :  20:23:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's going to be difficult for Feaster because he isn't officialy their long term GM, which may make him reluctant to trade.

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Guest9052
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Posted - 12/29/2010 :  03:32:12  Reply with Quote
Fletcher was a temporary GM in T.O before Burke came in, and he didn't hesitate to start the tear down.
Also, if the Flames are looking to trade Iginla, I personally think he'd be a good fit in Toronto. The Leafs need a REAL LEADER and he would buy them time to build prospects.
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Posted - 12/29/2010 :  05:25:02  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Guest9052

Fletcher was a temporary GM in T.O before Burke came in, and he didn't hesitate to start the tear down.
Also, if the Flames are looking to trade Iginla, I personally think he'd be a good fit in Toronto. The Leafs need a REAL LEADER and he would buy them time to build prospects.


that's incredible... everytime something happens in the NHL involving player, coach, or GM movement - Leaf fan ALWAYS say "he would be a good fit in TO" !!!!

Why don't the Leafs now go after Sutter for GM !!!
He'd be a good fit in Toronto, repair the damage Burke has only started...
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Guest7936
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Posted - 12/29/2010 :  11:43:25  Reply with Quote
Of course Iginla would be a good fit in Toronto. Any forward who can tell his a$$ from his elbow would be a good fit. They have, what, about two top six forwards? Hell, Leaf fans are probably having dreams of Jason Blake by now.

Maybe that's a little over the top, but I'm tired of of TO being brought up every time there is even the hint that a player might be traded. Burke is not a good GM. Face it. When he left Vancouver the team was in shambles, he walked into a championship winning duck team and left a team that couldn't make the playoffs, and now in Toronto he has already traded away the future for Kessel. Toronto is rebuilding. Picking up an aging superstar on the decline would be the stupidest thing you could do, especially because you would need to trade the prospects you don't have to get him. But hey, by all means, trade for iginla. Let's see how long we can extend the cup drought.
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The Duke
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Posted - 12/29/2010 :  14:18:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Iglina is moved it will be to a RIGHT NOW contender, not Toronto. Why would a rebuilding team trade what prospects they do have for a player who will be going down hill when his team may be coming into their own ??...maybe 3 - 4 years time.

LA would be a perfect fit, maybe the player to give them that little push.
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Guest0015
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Posted - 12/29/2010 :  18:26:46  Reply with Quote
well said guest 7936.

now that's a HOCKEY fan talking mr. Duke... unlike Leaf fans who talk out of their a**
You have a good point... LA is good for Iginla and the LA team, win/win
Colorado too could use him for their push
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Guest9052
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  01:30:07  Reply with Quote
Clearly I pissed off some of you. I'm sorry for making a joke.
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Mario 66
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  08:30:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know this will be off topic from the thread but i must go on guests thought about iginla in toronto.

I'd personally love to see Iginla join the leafs for the simple fact it would prolong the agony in Toronto for atleast another 10 yrs. They would only have to give up their next two or three draft picks plus half their current roster along with selling the rights to the minor league team to get him Maybe by then the franchise will drop the prices of tickets and i can walk down the street to the ACC and watch the pens kick the living s**t out of them without paying an arm and a leg in the process.

The leafs are in such shambles and it will remain for a long time as no gm regardless of what Burke tells you can wait to rebuild a team as the fans and media are to impatient and too unforgiving to sit around and accept losing. Those of us who live in leafs region continously see how the media and fans tear the leafs apart for having the record they have when in actuality they should be congratulated for being a head of the islanders & Devils who on paper have much better & deeper teams not to mention talented prospects. Face it the leafs are over scrutenized and the gm burke or someone else will be forced to clear house and go after big name players simply to make leafs nation satisfied for the time being. Until the leafs are given some slack and are allowed to lose like die hard fans in pitt, chicago & st. louis endured then this team will be nothing better then a bottom to middle of the pack team who may luckily squeak in the playoffs in the coming yrs.

We must forgive leaf fans for wanting the old veterans in case people forget the leafs are notorious for giving away young talent for aging stars so the fans are simply holding on to what they are use to. Some players sent out of town for old timers include Steve sullivan, Brad Boyes, Tuuka Rask & the list goes on of players who the leafs would be salavating to have now. Do not be surprised if in the next yr or two Kadri will be sent out of town as well.

Thanks to the leaf fan for adding in that iginla would be a good fit as i think you made a lot of our mornings.



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Guest4178
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  08:58:10  Reply with Quote
I can't see Iginla going to Toronto. What would this do to their team chemistry? (In Toronto.) My understanding is that Iginla and Phaneuf did not get along in Calgary. (In fact, more than a few Flames players were rumoured to have issues with Phaneuf.)

Who would be Toronto's captain? Phaneuf? Iginla?



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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  10:09:03  Reply with Quote
iggy has a no movement clause...........there's no way he would accept a trade to toronto because A, he will not play with phaneuf and B, he wont go anywhere that he doesnt have a chance to win a cup in his final topline years.
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The Duke
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  20:40:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way guys, i am a leaf fan but any leaf fan who wishes to sell what-ever draft picks we do have left for Iglina.....lets just say i`m glad you are not the leafs GM.

Toronto right now need to go in the total opposite direction of giving up more picks for a player like Iglina. What will this do for the leafs ?? Another band - aid fix up for a couple more years.

This kind of move as been Toronto`s downfall for the last 15 years, and where has it gotten them ?? To Waffle throwing

Now signing Brad Richards as an unrestricted free agent ( NOT A TRADE GIVING AWAY DRAFT PICKS ) would be a smart move.

Sorry for so much leaf talk, this is a Calgary Topic. Don`t pull a Leaf do-over Flames....trade what aging assets you have and go with a youth movement.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  21:26:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why not Iginla to a desperate for Offense Montreal Canadiens, Iginla and Cammalleri are buds and had excellent chemistry together, Montreal has the cap space and the depth to make this trade, Montreal does not like to trade for Rental players but this is clearly not a rental situation as Iggy has 2 years left of his contract,, Iginla fits very well to mtl.. and is exactly what this team would need to add to become a true contender for the cup and not just a 8th to 6th seed playoff team

"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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nuxfan
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  23:00:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pasty - Iginla fits well into nearly any team that wants to make a serious playoff run. Hell, I can even see the Canucks getting involved should Iginla become available - if only to keep him out of the hands of LA or COL. I'm not sure where he'd fit - probably second line with Kesler and Raymond (he'd be first line, but we already have a pretty good RW in Daniel), and first PP unit.

Not sure what the Canucks would give up in return - Schneider would be an obvious part of the package. Ah, dare to dream...

Edited by - nuxfan on 12/30/2010 23:01:04
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Pasty7
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  23:29:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by nuxfan

Pasty - Iginla fits well into nearly any team that wants to make a serious playoff run. Hell, I can even see the Canucks getting involved should Iginla become available - if only to keep him out of the hands of LA or COL. I'm not sure where he'd fit - probably second line with Kesler and Raymond (he'd be first line, but we already have a pretty good RW in Daniel), and first PP unit.

Not sure what the Canucks would give up in return - Schneider would be an obvious part of the package. Ah, dare to dream...



the Nucks do not have the Cap space at all and would have to give another important key player up to get the cap space,, the habs have Markov's money to work with, of course he fits into a lot of teams but he has to want to go their so that limits it to contenders, then it has been said he wants to stay in Canada so that limits it to Van and Montreal as they are probably Canada's only playoff teams this year as i have stated a few time Iginla and Camalleri have a connection maybe Iginla says i want to be a hab and play with my buddy Cammy who i know i play at an elite level with!

"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker

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Alex116
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Posted - 12/30/2010 :  23:59:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could see Montreal making a push, ONLY if they get out of the slump they currently find themselves in, otherwise, they won't be a solid enough contender come deadline time for Iggy to have enough interest.

To Vancouver? Well, let's just say, it'd prob take more than i'd like to see the Canucks give up to get Iggy here when you consider the history / rivalry with the Nucks and Flames.
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The Duke
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Posted - 12/31/2010 :  07:52:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All your points make sense guys but i picked LA because they are LOADED with top end prospects who other teams are druelling over.

This LA team ( who are great now ) are so deep in young talent they will be an NHL power-house for years to come. As a leaf fan i feel nothing but envy towards them

What a job their management has done...if only we had a similar plan in TO...
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nuxfan
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Posted - 12/31/2010 :  08:36:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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the Nucks do not have the Cap space at all and would have to give another important key player up to get the cap space,, the habs have Markov's money to work with, of course he fits into a lot of teams but he has to want to go their so that limits it to contenders, then it has been said he wants to stay in Canada so that limits it to Van and Montreal as they are probably Canada's only playoff teams this year as i have stated a few time Iginla and Camalleri have a connection maybe Iginla says i want to be a hab and play with my buddy Cammy who i know i play at an elite level with!



either way, I think we're both dreaming. The best package that CGY can get is going to come from someone else. Both MTL and VAN would have to give up too much to get Iginla. VAN could do it, but would have to trade both Salo and Bieksa immediately, as well as Parent and Rome in the minors forever, not to mention what they would have to give CGY in return (Schneider and Hodgson would be a starting point). The price would be steep for sure.

I think LAK is a more likely landing spot for him. The Kings have everything - cap space, loads of prospects and young players to offer in return, and a legitimate shot for Iginla to see the cup over the next few years.
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