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spade632
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 Posted - 05/10/2011 : 09:40:05
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As we know, the NHL has not been kind to the Red Wings octopus toss / Al Sobotka's twirl and Vancouver's "famous" green men - Force and Sully - who even made it down to Nashville and had a chat with keith urban and Nicole Kidman.
I'm all for this harmless fun - it adds more colour to the game and makes it more interesting for the fans.
Now, I was watching the Predators / Canucks game last night and noticed that before the game started that some Preds fans had tossed some catfish onto the ice.
My question is whether the NHL will be consistent in their actions and condemn the catfish tossing as they have the octopus and the green men.
Speaking of the green men, at Game 3 in Nashville they were greeted by a game-day operations manager, given the use of his office as a change room, and provided with his cellphone number should they need security or have other special needs. As Sully said, "they get it, it's about the entertainment."
Of course, I wish the NHL would just let it all go and realize that it's all in good fun and that as long as play isn't interrupted / players aren't endangered then it should be all good.
Besides, doesn't the NHL have better things to be worrying about, like, you know -- headshots?
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Edited by - spade632 on 05/10/2011 09:49:52
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 10:12:11
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spade.... i heard something about Detroit and the octopus toss and that they were clamping down on it? Is it the NHL that's trying to stop it? Or is it Joe Louis Arena? I'm assuming the NHL from your post, but the reason i ask is that a guy i played soccer against for years, is the guy who originally threw a salmon on the ice at a Canucks game. This dates back to the old Pacific Colloseum days (one of the last ever games). He continued it when they moved to GM Place / Rogers Arena but then found out through someone he knew working at the rink that they were "after him" and were planning on charging him with something if they could catch him??? He decided it wasn't worth the police getting involved, so he stopped. Some have been thrown since then, but it was this guy who originated it (as far as i know) and did it consistently for part of a couple of seasons.
I do know in this case, it was the rink, not the NHL that was trying to shut down his antics. He was just trying to start a "west coast" tradition, all in fun.
So, while i know the Green Men issue is from the NHL, is "Octopus-Gate" the NHL's doing as well? |
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Beans15
Moderator
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 11:52:10
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I recall the issue with the Octopus was that the dude who went out onto the ice would twirl the thing around his head while he ran off the ice to get the crowd going. Last season, the NHL told the Wings they would get fined if the guy did it again. If I recall correctly, the dude picked up the Octopus and started walking off the ice without twirling it. The crowd started getting a little rowdy and near the gate before he stepped off the ice, he gave it a good spin and the crowd went nuts. I never heard if there were any fines because of that.
I like the side antics as much as the next guy, but as Slozo said, as long as they don't interfere with the play. It's a fine line the NHL/teams have to navigate. A salmon on the ice before the puck drops is one things. Leafs fans throwing crap on the ice at the ACC (can't even remember what it was) during play is another.
Players safety is #1 with the flow of the game distant 2nd. Anything else, fine with me. |
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 13:15:09
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Originally posted by Alex116
spade.... i heard something about Detroit and the octopus toss and that they were clamping down on it? Is it the NHL that's trying to stop it? Or is it Joe Louis Arena? I'm assuming the NHL from your post, but the reason i ask is that a guy i played soccer against for years, is the guy who originally threw a salmon on the ice at a Canucks game. This dates back to the old Pacific Colloseum days (one of the last ever games). He continued it when they moved to GM Place / Rogers Arena but then found out through someone he knew working at the rink that they were "after him" and were planning on charging him with something if they could catch him??? He decided it wasn't worth the police getting involved, so he stopped. Some have been thrown since then, but it was this guy who originated it (as far as i know) and did it consistently for part of a couple of seasons.
I do know in this case, it was the rink, not the NHL that was trying to shut down his antics. He was just trying to start a "west coast" tradition, all in fun.
So, while i know the Green Men issue is from the NHL, is "Octopus-Gate" the NHL's doing as well?
Hey Alex - did your friend ever smell a bit . . . fishy? 
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Statman
Rookie
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Posted - 05/10/2011 : 13:16:31
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| I just want to point out that it takes a certain kind of man to walk around with a dead octopus or fish in your jacket for an hour. |
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 12:04:39
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Based on this > http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2011/04/16/18017711.html
It's the NHL that asked Detroit Police to charge anyone caught throwing an octopus onto the ice. In Game 1 of the first round, a man was charged $500.
Beans - No argument there, it shouldn't disrupt the play. There's actually a rule for "objects thrown onto the ice" - it has an exemption for "special occasions" though giving the example of a hattrick.
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Rule 63.4 Objects Thrown on the Ice – In the event that objects are thrown on the ice that interfere with the progress of the game, the Referee shall blow the whistle and stop the play and the puck shall be faced-off at a face-off spot in the zone nearest to the spot where play is stopped. When objects are thrown on the ice during a stoppage in play, including after the scoring of a goal, the Referee shall have announced over the public address system that any further occurrences will result in a bench minor penalty being assessed to the home Team. Articles thrown onto the ice following a special occasion (i.e. hat trick) will not result in a bench minor penalty being assessed.
Also, the ACC thing was waffles.
Finally, does anyone remember the Florida "Rat-Trick" during their 1995-96 Playoff Run? Thousands of plastic rats would rain down onto the ice after goals. > For reference> http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh4wj9Pu8l1qc97bxo1_500.jpg
Incidentally, Rule 63.4 is a direct result of the 'Rat Trick" |
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ginks40
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 12:32:48
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| If I remember correctly, the "Rat Trick" started after Scott Mellanby killed a rat in the Panthers dressing room. |
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Guest4178
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Posted - 05/11/2011 : 15:31:55
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Yes, I remember the "Rat Trick," and the ensuing rule which followed this occurrence.
Just wondering what would happen if a group of mischievous fans from an opposing team got together to throw stuff on the ice?
For example, what if they were poised to do so after an eruption of displeasure (stuff being thrown on the ice) from the home team?
They might risk "life and limb" in doing so, but what would the officials do? Especially if this took place after an announcement that the home team would get a penalty if anything was thrown on the ice? (And if the officials assumed it was the home team fans doing so.)
Very very unlikely this would ever take place, but it would sure be interesting if it did!
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 13:33:57
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Originally posted by ginks40
If I remember correctly, the "Rat Trick" started after Scott Mellanby killed a rat in the Panthers dressing room.
Exactly, Mellanby killed a rat with a roll of hockey tape and scored two goals that night. Vanbiesbrouck gets credit for the term though - after the game he told reporters that Mellanby hadn't scored a hattrick but had managed a "rat trick." Thus, a "legend" was born.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnHpaVW53SM
They actually had someone throw a real rat. |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 05/12/2011 : 16:11:54
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Florida ruined hockey in more way's then one.
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Octopi, Catfish, and Green Men 
