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Guest4948
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 Posted - 10/31/2007 : 10:03:39
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It's called leverage. People who moan about how Crosby shoots the puck should play some hockey. It takes balance to skate and shoot, and some players can only do that when the puck is right in the sweet spot (2 or 3 feet RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM). To shoot the puck when the pass is coming behind you, or ends up between your feet, takes skill. Dropping to your knees to get leverage and the right angle on a wonky setup is an instinctive reaction that most players in the nhl don't/can't do. If his teamates did more tape to tape passes, he wouldn't be on his knees shooting so much.
You "Crosby haters' are riduculus. The media builds him up to be the next great one, he's not Alan Iverson out there, telling the world how great he is or is going to be. Stop s***ting on the kid because of what other people say about him. Grow the f*** up. |
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Guest4713
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 10:32:40
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| Throwing around cuss words to people you disagree with is real mature, guest (not). Grow up. |
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hkalirah
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 10:34:10
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Hey listen, I questioned your intelligence because you questioned mines first.
Obviously you've forgotten a heck of a lot if you've forgotten more in your life than I've ever learned. Here's a couple of hints:
1. Start writing things down.
2. Everyone says your memory is the first thing to go. I suggest you buy a wheelchair, because that can't be too far off.
Just because you say your right, doesn't mean you are! Just because your friend plays on the Wild, still doesn't make you Mr. Hockey Expert.
You tell everyone to go do their research, well now I'm telling you to do the same thing.
Wings are used to fly, Leaves only fall. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 11:29:23
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One and only warning.
Keep the comments to the topic, not personal attacks.
Please do not make the moderators get involved. There are tons of other places on the internet to shoot people down.
This is hockey, stay to hockey please.
If you are under the age of 15, please do some research before you make a post about anything pre-1997. |
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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
Japan
891 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2007 : 17:48:54
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hkalirah - I think flyguy's post about the 14 or younger thing was to a Guest, not you. Take a look again at that post of his.
I think you guys are actually on the same side of this argument. Kind of funny how these things develop.
As Rodney King said, "Can't everybody at Pickup Hockey get along?"
Look at Flyguy and I! We get along INSANELY well.
- that was one for the Pickup Hockey Historians - in a good mood today - I couldn't resist 
Oh, I guess I better make some hockey contribution. Ahh, hmmmmmm - well,uuuhmmm, well....................Sid scored on his knees - that's pretty cool - maybe, he'll score his 131st point of the year in Game 82 on his knees |
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 21:29:36
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My apologies - I can't help it sometimes. I can be the Ken Linseman/Essa Tikkanen of the board, and I know it. I'll try to be cool. Sometimes it's hard, though.
And yeah, I was referring to the Guest's comment. When this is your input: " i agree he jus goes on gis knees to look better. hes like oo i got free goal might as well go on my knees to look beter"...I respectfully ask that you try harder.
I don't purposely want to disrespect anyone's valid opinions. |
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Thornton.Jr.
Top Prospect
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2007 : 22:44:43
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I think most people look at Crosby being a whiner mostly because he is. He skates around on the ice and acts as if he shouldn't be touched. Like last year off the face off of one of his games the opposing center pushes him and sid falls down complaining of a butt end, he should get up and play more grittier hockey and be treated as a normal player, not placed up on pedastel where he is invicable to little shoves or hacks. I also believe he went down on his knee or goes down on his knees, or slides to make a goal because he wants to be compared with ovechkin as an explosive goal scorer
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive |
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
834 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2007 : 22:53:41
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Originally posted by Thornton.Jr.
I also believe he went down on his knee or goes down on his knees, or slides to make a goal because he wants to be compared with ovechkin as an explosive goal scorer
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive
Yeah, you're probably right. It has nothing to do with balance, centre of gravity, or positioning himself in a better shooting position. After all, you should know. Why, he's only the Hart Trophy winner, while you manage the deli section at Safeway. |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2007 : 16:27:20
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
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Originally posted by Thornton.Jr.
I also believe he went down on his knee or goes down on his knees, or slides to make a goal because he wants to be compared with ovechkin as an explosive goal scorer
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive
Yeah, you're probably right. It has nothing to do with balance, centre of gravity, or positioning himself in a better shooting position. After all, you should know. Why, he's only the Hart Trophy winner, while you manage the deli section at Safeway.
What's with you and you're random low blows? Smells of personal insecurity if you ask me.....
And I agree with Thorton Jr's previous comment about trying to get on a highlight reel.....it has nothing to do with him getting in a better shooting position.....it's just sid's attempt at having a "move"....But all the guys at pittsburgh's local bath houses already knew about sid liking being on his knees, so I don't know who he's trying to impress..not me, that's for sure.
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
834 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2007 : 16:45:54
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 11/09/2007 : 20:32:00
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I don't know when you guys will notice that Sid the Kid will get on the highlight reel no matter what because he is just that good!
Crosby is more of a play maker. A couple games ago Crosby made a pass rite through the D's legs and right to Malone who tapped it in. That's highlight reel without going on his knees. I would wonder, if you asked Crosby "Do you want to be on the highlight reel but still lose the game or score a ugly garbage goal and win?" And ask the same question to Ovechkin. What would the answer be? Obviously they would say what you want to hear, but what do you think they're thinking in there mind. Crosby is a team player, Ovechkin is a little different. |
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Thornton.Jr.
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 15:52:49
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whats your problem Fly tough week or something, i don't manage a deli and a safeway i'm a law/physics student, how suitable, it doesn't have anything to do with his center of gravity he lunges forward while he could have just as easily kept skating and how could diving position yourself for a better shot and he was in the best position already for a good shot (infront of the net)
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive |
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 17:00:45
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Originally posted by Thornton.Jr.
whats your problem Fly tough week or something, i don't manage a deli and a safeway i'm a law/physics student, how suitable, it doesn't have anything to do with his center of gravity he lunges forward while he could have just as easily kept skating and how could diving position yourself for a better shot and he was in the best position already for a good shot (infront of the net)
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive
My apologies, but your sentence structure lends itself more to the food distribution industry than that of a law or physics major, Dr. Hawking. Doesn't being a law/physics student require at least a minimal standard of proficiency in the use of punctuation and word usage?
Anyway, if you had played hockey before embarking on your law/physics career, which I doubt you did, you would know I am right, because you'd have an understanding of how important weight transfer is in regards to keeping one's balance on the ice. In Crosby's case, his skill and speed are such that sometimes that rapid weight transfer to his back leg requires him to in essence "drag it" in order to manoever into the best possible shooting position. Or, as they say at law/physics school, he shoots that there puck real good.
Oh well, lesson learned for you. Back to Safeway. That'll be plastic, thanks. |
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Greg Smith
Rookie
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 17:05:10
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Physics or not, what's wrong with Crosby going on his knees anyway?
After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games. |
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Thornton.Jr.
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 18:18:28
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if i cared about my english i would have become an english major and not skipped out on my english classes and yes i did/do play hockey but anyways you are so great talking down to me, what are you trying to prove to me, yes i attend a law/physics school also known as university. You seem to know a lot about the food distribution industry perhaps it is part of your profession?
The topic at hand is that why does Crosby always go down on one knee it has nothing to do with physics, law or food for that matter. The fact is that he knows he has a camera on him at all times so he tries to make his goals look that much more amazing. Once again i have to go back to him and Ovechkin, I noticed Crosby starts doing things from his knees last year when Ovie was tearing up the highlight real.
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2007 : 20:08:49
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Sigh.
This is getting ridiculous. Rather than talking down to each other. Weather it be on grammar, punctuation or Safeway? How about just making valid points on the situation/topic at hand. I think it's hockey? Not sure. I'm lost in this non-sense now. :)
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/11/2007 : 09:56:04
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Originally posted by irvine
Sigh.
This is getting ridiculous. Rather than talking down to each other. Weather it be on grammar, punctuation or Safeway? How about just making valid points on the situation/topic at hand. I think it's hockey? Not sure. I'm lost in this non-sense now. :)
Irvine
Just wait until your intelligent points are attacked all day long, then maybe you won't be so Switzerland, irvine.
Why get into it? Because sometimes people need a verbal smackdown.
Valid points mean nothing to clueless people. Yes, I lower myself to a different level now and then, because it's gets old speaking intelligently to some of the clowns that come on here with nothing good to say about anyone.
I know it's probably a mistake, because it's exactly what they are looking for, but if nothing else, maybe it'll (a) make them think next time, (b) make them go away, or most likely (c) make me feel less frustration for awhile.
BTW, it's whether, not weather.
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/11/2007 : 10:00:02
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Originally posted by Thornton.Jr.
if i cared about my english i would have become an english major and not skipped out on my english classes and yes i did/do play hockey but anyways you are so great talking down to me, what are you trying to prove to me, yes i attend a law/physics school also known as university. You seem to know a lot about the food distribution industry perhaps it is part of your profession?
The topic at hand is that why does Crosby always go down on one knee it has nothing to do with physics, law or food for that matter. The fact is that he knows he has a camera on him at all times so he tries to make his goals look that much more amazing. Once again i have to go back to him and Ovechkin, I noticed Crosby starts doing things from his knees last year when Ovie was tearing up the highlight real.
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive
Okay, problem solved then. It's because he's a hotdog who is trying to show up Ovechkin. That's what gets him up every morning. He goes to practice thinking, "I'll get you, Ovechkin". Yep, that makes perfect sense. Good luck with class, and thanks for your insight into the mind of Sidney Crosby. |
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Thornton.Jr.
Top Prospect
Canada
21 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 16:29:28
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fly are you...........god?
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive |
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habshockey
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/11/2007 : 16:32:35
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Who cares how Crosby puts his goals in. If he wants to make them look nice, go ahead, go down on one knee. If he wants to show up Ovechkin, let him try. They've both scored some pretty nice goals the past couple years.
losers since 67 will have to wait another year |
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OILINONTARIO
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
816 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 17:05:18
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Originally posted by Thornton.Jr.
whats your problem Fly tough week or something, i don't manage a deli and a safeway i'm a law/physics student, how suitable, it doesn't have anything to do with his center of gravity he lunges forward while he could have just as easily kept skating and how could diving position yourself for a better shot and he was in the best position already for a good shot (infront of the net)
If you go into the shark tank you don't come out alive
I have to back up Fly on this one. It really confuses me how someone with such a poor grasp of his mother tongue (I'm assuming English is your first language) can attend university. If you are being truthful, I'd suggest you spend more time on your studies, and less time picking fights with someone who is obviously more knowledgable on this subject than you are.
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Thornton.Jr.
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 18:06:27
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 18:23:29
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Crosby sin't the only one going down on one knee. Tucker did it last year, Heatley does it as well as Ovechkin. Croaby isn't doing this to make his goals look fancy, its like Fly said, weight transfer. I dunno what the verbal assults were (Safeway ?!) but it was pretty funny . No offnece but both of you sounded like retards. |
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 18:58:34
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Originally posted by leafsfan_101
Crosby sin't the only one going down on one knee. Tucker did it last year, Heatley does it as well as Ovechkin. Croaby isn't doing this to make his goals look fancy, its like Fly said, weight transfer. I dunno what the verbal assults were (Safeway ?!) but it was pretty funny. No offnece but both of you sounded like retards.
Au contraire. I thought my insults were skillyfully scripted. I fashion myself a bit of a wordsmith, you know. |
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 19:06:41
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Originally posted by Thornton.Jr.
its a hockey form, who cares how people type would you like me to type in well constructed paragraphs with footnotes to back up my opinion.
It's actually a forum, not form. I can do this all day long, dude.
I truly don't care how you spell or construct paragraphs, I really don't. Just don't tell me that because of your extensive law/physics background, you know for certain that Crosby goes down on one knee not due to his body positioning and centre of gravity, but because he is a hotdog trying to show up Ovechkin.
You're a hater. You hate Crosby. Fine. At least be honest and say you think he's a whiner or something. Then at least I'd give your comments some merit.
If you're going into a gunfight, don't bring an elastic band, if you know what I mean.
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ED11
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 20:51:51
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
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Originally posted by Thornton.Jr.
its a hockey form, who cares how people type would you like me to type in well constructed paragraphs with footnotes to back up my opinion.
It's actually a forum, not form. I can do this all day long, dude.
I truly don't care how you spell or construct paragraphs, I really don't. Just don't tell me that because of your extensive law/physics background, you know for certain that Crosby goes down on one knee not due to his body positioning and centre of gravity, but because he is a hotdog trying to show up Ovechkin.
You're a hater. You hate Crosby. Fine. At least be honest and say you think he's a whiner or something. Then at least I'd give your comments some merit.
If you're going into a gunfight, don't bring an elastic band, if you know what I mean.
Haha. I like that post fly. Here we go. Back to this forum. Picking on Crosby. Why do people hate that he scores off one knee? Haha. I mean why is that so bad. Does anyone remember ummm...what was his name...OH YES!!! BRET HULL. He scored A BUNCH of goals off one knee. And he has over 700 goals. Has anyone thought that maybe Sid learned a thing or two watching him play??? |
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willus3
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Posted - 11/12/2007 : 22:19:17
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Au contraire. I thought my insults were skillyfully scripted. I fashion myself a bit of a wordsmith, you know.
I could be wrong but I think you may mean fancy. Somewhat ironic isn't it.
I can't believe the mileage this thread is getting. Let it go people. The OP was trolling and everyone fell for it hook line and sinker and are now are just perpetuating it.
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/13/2007 : 16:49:13
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Originally posted by willus3
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
Au contraire. I thought my insults were skillyfully scripted. I fashion myself a bit of a wordsmith, you know.
I could be wrong but I think you may mean fancy. Somewhat ironic isn't it.
I can't believe the mileage this thread is getting. Let it go people. The OP was trolling and everyone fell for it hook line and sinker and are now are just perpetuating it.
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore
Fashion - Manner or mode; way.
I think it works.
Fancy sounds just a wee bit...you know...not that there's anything wrong with that. |
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Guest4912
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Posted - 11/23/2007 : 09:56:07
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| Would you just leave Sid alone, he is one of the best canadian players of this era to lace up skates, show so pride for god sakes. he plays the way he plays and we have no right to boast about him "blowing the game" he would school all are asses, so just leave him alone and let him play. |
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Guest4912
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Posted - 11/23/2007 : 10:00:05
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| good point, he did have ALOT of hype surrounding him tho |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 11/23/2007 : 15:47:48
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Originally posted by Guest4912
Would you just leave Sid alone, he is one of the best canadian players of this era to lace up skates, show so pride for god sakes. he plays the way he plays and we have no right to boast about him "blowing the game" he would school all are asses, so just leave him alone and let him play.
"This era"? what are you basing that on? the 2 years he's been in the league? For all you know, he'll get a shoulder to his face, like some other "best player of this era", and only have that one hart trophy to his name (a hart trophy we all know should have went to Luongo in the first place).
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/23/2007 : 15:58:59
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One thing I'd like to say though is, so far this year, Sid hasn't bugged me at all...He seems to just be out there having fun...I even feel pretty bad about slamming him as bad as I have...I mean, he's a decent guy (esecially off the Ice)..ya, he's shy in interviews, but he is still a blossoming young kid....That was pretty funny seeing him donning the mask and gloves and making some saves.....And from what I've seen, he seems a lot more mature ON the ice too!...Not nearly as much whining, it's understandable he gets emotional, and this year, it seems to be for good reasons, and ONLY for good reasons that he's busting out his temper.
However, I won't beat Sid off like the rest of you...I mean, show some dignity...Some of you, just like the average tsn analyst, would be jumping right over the cliff having thought you saw Sid doing it.
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/24/2007 : 08:00:25
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Originally posted by I HATE CROSBY
One thing I'd like to say though is, so far this year, Sid hasn't bugged me at all...He seems to just be out there having fun...I even feel pretty bad about slamming him as bad as I have...I mean, he's a decent guy (esecially off the Ice)..ya, he's shy in interviews, but he is still a blossoming young kid....That was pretty funny seeing him donning the mask and gloves and making some saves.....And from what I've seen, he seems a lot more mature ON the ice too!...Not nearly as much whining, it's understandable he gets emotional, and this year, it seems to be for good reasons, and ONLY for good reasons that he's busting out his temper.
However, I won't beat Sid off like the rest of you...I mean, show some dignity...Some of you, just like the average tsn analyst, would be jumping right over the cliff having thought you saw Sid doing it.
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day!
Shoulda woulda coulda.....
Didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liking Sid has nothing to do with anything other than hockey. You ever notice you are the one bringing up inappropriate behavior towards him all the time? Maybe you should come out already. |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/24/2007 : 11:37:53
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Originally posted by fly4apuckguy
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Originally posted by I HATE CROSBY
One thing I'd like to say though is, so far this year, Sid hasn't bugged me at all...He seems to just be out there having fun...I even feel pretty bad about slamming him as bad as I have...I mean, he's a decent guy (esecially off the Ice)..ya, he's shy in interviews, but he is still a blossoming young kid....That was pretty funny seeing him donning the mask and gloves and making some saves.....And from what I've seen, he seems a lot more mature ON the ice too!...Not nearly as much whining, it's understandable he gets emotional, and this year, it seems to be for good reasons, and ONLY for good reasons that he's busting out his temper.
However, I won't beat Sid off like the rest of you...I mean, show some dignity...Some of you, just like the average tsn analyst, would be jumping right over the cliff having thought you saw Sid doing it.
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day!
Shoulda woulda coulda.....
Didn't!!!!!!!!!!!!
Liking Sid has nothing to do with anything other than hockey. You ever notice you are the one bringing up inappropriate behavior towards him all the time? Maybe you should come out already.
well, maybe you should come out of the closet and propose to Sid...Cause that's the impression I'm getting, hahahaha.
Sugar Ray over Hasek any day! |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 11/24/2007 : 13:51:06
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I think most of the whining from his career was without somebody backing him up in fights or prtecting him from the opposing teams tough guys. Since Larauque has been a penguins, no more whining.
It just shows how much teams still need enforecers.
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Guest4912
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 09:53:17
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| Ihatecrosby... you are the biggest idoit on this entire sight, Sidney crosby has revolutionized the way canadian hockey is played why don't you stop bitching and give credit were it is due |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 11/27/2007 : 10:31:00
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Originally posted by Guest4912
Ihatecrosby... you are the biggest idoit on this entire sight, Sidney crosby has revolutionized the way canadian hockey is played why don't you stop bitching and give credit were it is due
Ya, I know eh? Hockey's so different in canada now isn't it? I mean, in these two years a huge revolution has come about hasn't it? f*** off!
OK the NHL already had Wayne...Hockey's already been revolutionized(it was "revolutionized" before wayne too, but he was the final icing on the cake)
Unless some robot is permitted on the ice that does backflips on breakaways, we've seen it all folks......They'll be no "revolution".......I can't get over that retarded that guest was......and people wonder why I'm quick to slam sid....one reason is cause I hope I can get some of you sheep out there to refrain from getting some boner every time he's on the ice.
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 10:44:46
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Folks, please keep the language clean and the personal attacks out.
That being said, I have to agree with IHC on this. Firstly, he has the right to dislike or like any player/team/whatever. Secondly, I have to agree that Crosby has not "revolutionized" the game. He's doing nothing different than anyone else in the league has, or is today for that matter. He's a incredibly skilled offensive player who has a decent head on his shoulders and loves playing the game. That isn't revolutionary in my books.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!! |
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Guest9252
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 11:06:32
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Crosby is a great player -definitely one of the best and his numbers speak for themself.
However, when all is said and done he will not be remembered as a hockey legend for one reason. Unlike all-time greats such as Gretzky, Crosby plays a little differently. Instead of showing a 'nobody can stop me' flair for the game, Crosby will often play to draw a penalty and that is what sets him apart. (and thats what people talk about)
For example, in the Ottawa game he started the game being cheered, but then after blatantly diving to draw a 5-on-3 powerplay the fans booed him for the remainder of the game.
Forum conversations also show that instead of focusing on Crosby's achievements there is always the question of his diving and I personally think the way he is playing will not put him in the same class as the top players of all time. |
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willus3
Moderator
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Posted - 11/27/2007 : 11:34:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest9252
Crosby is a great player -definitely one of the best and his numbers speak for themself.
However, when all is said and done he will not be remembered as a hockey legend for one reason. Unlike all-time greats such as Gretzky, Crosby plays a little differently. Instead of showing a 'nobody can stop me' flair for the game, Crosby will often play to draw a penalty and that is what sets him apart. (and thats what people talk about)
For example, in the Ottawa game he started the game being cheered, but then after blatantly diving to draw a 5-on-3 powerplay the fans booed him for the remainder of the game.
Forum conversations also show that instead of focusing on Crosby's achievements there is always the question of his diving and I personally think the way he is playing will not put him in the same class as the top players of all time.
Gretzky never tried to draw penalties?
I saw Gretzky take dives that were perfect tens across the board. It always amazes me how short and selective peoples memories are.
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Get off your knees Sid, you're blowing the game!!! 
