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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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 Posted - 04/08/2012 : 09:19:09
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Poll Question:
What will happen in this series?
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 05:17:11
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| i'll be nice and say wings in 6 |
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mandree888
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
400 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 06:51:14
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| i think that the predators are hungry enough to upset the wings. i say nasville in 6. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 11:18:19
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| Preds in 5. Win 1, 2, 4 and 5. Detroit's just not very good away from the Joe. |
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
591 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 12:44:42
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| You need offence to win, and weber and suter will be a little busy shutting down datsyuk and zetterberg to provide it, nashville doesn't have the power up front to provide it. Wings in 6 |
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Guest8875
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 12:59:24
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| No offense may of been the case at the start of the season for Nashville but not so much now. Radulov is supposed to be one of if not the best in the Russian league and the Kostitsyn brothers have been reunited. If you think Andrei was no good in Montreal well he is doing much better in Nashville. More motivated and more happy. It could very well go to game 7. |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 14:56:34
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| Good luck Nay sayers, youll need it, goals win games, and the wings are no slouch on d either, jimmy's alittle shakey tho. |
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
591 Posts |
Posted - 04/09/2012 : 15:01:59
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Originally posted by Guest8875
No offense may of been the case at the start of the season for Nashville but not so much now. Radulov is supposed to be one of if not the best in the Russian league and the Kostitsyn brothers have been reunited. If you think Andrei was no good in Montreal well he is doing much better in Nashville. More motivated and more happy. It could very well go to game 7.
they won't possibly match datsyuk, zetterberg,franzen and filpula |
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 15:51:02
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This is the hardest series to predict. I find these are the best two teams in the west and I predict that whoever will come out of this series will meet Pittsburgh in the Stanley Cup finals.
I say Detroit wins in 7, experience will take over when it matters. |
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Guest8875
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 18:08:04
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Originally posted by sahis34
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Originally posted by Guest8875
No offense may of been the case at the start of the season for Nashville but not so much now. Radulov is supposed to be one of if not the best in the Russian league and the Kostitsyn brothers have been reunited. If you think Andrei was no good in Montreal well he is doing much better in Nashville. More motivated and more happy. It could very well go to game 7.
they won't possibly match datsyuk, zetterberg,franzen and filpula
Nashville has the best defensive tandem in Weber and Suter and one of the best goalies in Rinne. Datsyuk and company will be matched against them not Nashville's offence. And if foolpittier is right in Jimmy being shaky I can only imagine that a top Russian forward that Jimmy don't know how he plays and Shea's 2nd Hardest Slap-Shot will just shake him up even more |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 19:41:47
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Originally posted by Leafs81
This is the hardest series to predict. I find these are the best two teams in the west and I predict that whoever will come out of this series will meet Pittsburgh in the Stanley Cup finals.
Interesting that both St. Louis AND Vancouver finished ahead of them! I still don't like Det's road record where playoff games are so important. |
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Lee Marshall
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 08:33:09
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A tough one. Experience will take Detoilet to the 7th game...which they'll LOSE. Out with the old. In with the new...all the way to the west finals.
Who the cap fits...Let them wear it. |
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Guest7277
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 13:33:27
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i dont think the wings have enough depth and im a wings fan.
i say preds in 7 |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 14:17:23
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Yes I know I'm a little biased but I'll try to be as fair as possible with this post. I voted for Nashville in 7 for a few reasons. First of all, nobody can deny that the Red Wings have superior fire power upfront but the gap between the two teams is not as big as everybody thinks. I matched up the top 6 scoring forwards from Detroit against the top 5 and Radulov from the Predators and I was surprised to see the gap a lot smaller than I had originally imagined:
(In brackets are the projected points for 82 games played)
Datsyuk: 0.96 points per game (79)
Erat: 0.82 points per game (67)
Zetterberg: 0.84 points per game (69)
Radulov: 0.78 points per game (64)
Filpulla: 0.81 points per game (66)
Fisher: 0.71 points per game (58)
Franzen: 0.73 points per game (60)
Legwand: 0.68 points per game (56)
Hudler: 0.62 points per game (51)
S. Kostitsyn: 0.57 points per game (47)
Bertuzzi: 0.54 points per game (44)
Hornqvist: 0.57 points per game (47)
As you can see the points gap between the top 6 forwards on each team is not that big. Nashville can then still throw out a 3rd line consisting of all 30 point scorers while Detroit's 3rd line would have just 1. I also think Nashville has a better defensive style than Detroit , although the wings tend to switch it up to their playoff system. Goaltending I see as an advantage for Nashville as well.
Colin Wilson- The future |
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Cyclonis
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 04/10/2012 : 15:54:08
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I would say Nashvile in 6.
The difference being Weber and Suter as the "shutdown" pair. Love Nick Lidstrom but he is getting older and I think the Preds will have worn the wings down by the 6th game.
Even if the wings pull this game (6) out they have to go on the road for game 7...
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2012 : 23:14:12
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Originally posted by nashvillepreds
Yes I know I'm a little biased but I'll try to be as fair as possible with this post. I voted for Nashville in 7 for a few reasons. First of all, nobody can deny that the Red Wings have superior fire power upfront but the gap between the two teams is not as big as everybody thinks. I matched up the top 6 scoring forwards from Detroit against the top 5 and Radulov from the Predators and I was surprised to see the gap a lot smaller than I had originally imagined:
(In brackets are the projected points for 82 games played)
Datsyuk: 0.96 points per game (79)
Erat: 0.82 points per game (67)
Zetterberg: 0.84 points per game (69)
Radulov: 0.78 points per game (64)
Filpulla: 0.81 points per game (66)
Fisher: 0.71 points per game (58)
Franzen: 0.73 points per game (60)
Legwand: 0.68 points per game (56)
Hudler: 0.62 points per game (51)
S. Kostitsyn: 0.57 points per game (47)
Bertuzzi: 0.54 points per game (44)
Hornqvist: 0.57 points per game (47)
As you can see the points gap between the top 6 forwards on each team is not that big. Nashville can then still throw out a 3rd line consisting of all 30 point scorers while Detroit's 3rd line would have just 1. I also think Nashville has a better defensive style than Detroit , although the wings tend to switch it up to their playoff system. Goaltending I see as an advantage for Nashville as well.
Colin Wilson- The future
I don't think anyone would claim bias against a Preds fan picking their team in 7! But, i don't like your reasoning really, well, as far as the chart of points / players you provided. First off, Datsyuk theoretically outscores Erat by 12 points and Datsyuk has had an unusually slow year. THEN, you still have Zetterberg outscoring the #1 guy on Nashville AND a third guy in Filpulla who only misses by 1 point! I think that just highlights the fact that Det's offense is def superior.
I do think the D and goaltending is the difference maker though and while i don't like to bet against Detroit in round 1, Nashville really does look to have enough, especially considering Detroits rather meagher road record!
I see Nashville winning unless the pressure gets to them (they really need to go at least 2 or 3 rounds to convince some of their big FA's to stick around) or someone get's "Kronwalled" and the momentum swings Det's way (could especially happen if Det can get one of the first two in Nashville).
Should be a good series to see progress. |
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Alex116
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
247 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2012 : 21:25:48
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It's about time the "superstars" get suspended for things. I don't think Weber will get anything, but I think he deserves at least a game.
The punch is one thing but the head slam is what deserves the suspension. There's no way that will ever be a "hockey play. If I were in Shanahan's shoes I'd say 1-2 games.
(Of course, I've said before about getting draconian to get the cheap/dirty stuff out of the game BUT that can't be instituted on no notice. Not that I think the NHL would ever institute such a policy) |
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mandree888
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Cyclonis
Top Prospect
Canada
56 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 11:01:47
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Weber got fined the max $2500.
He will be gtg for Game 2. NSH didn't play exceptionally well but still got the win on the effort of the 3rd and 4th lines.
Can i change my vote to NSH in 5?
Funny seeing Bert get bent out of shape due to seeing someone punch someone in the back of the head...LOL.
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
374 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 12:31:42
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It dosent look like weber will be going to detroit next year, after that.
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 12:42:53
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Originally posted by mandree888
i sit corrected. weber gets a slap on the wrist.
Sadly, just as I thought. Would be nice to see superstars actually get suspended for something meaningful.
As an aside, while I recognize that playoff games matter more than the regular season. I still think that what constitutes a three game suspension on October 6th should be a three game suspension on April 12th (or anytime during the playoffs) too. |
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foolpittier
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
374 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 12:56:11
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well if your allowed to do that, i hope to see him take a two hander in the face... after all, its the playoffs right
and if datsyuk does it, who cares, he'll get to play game 3.
this pisses me off, the nhl has to stop letting superstars from thinking their above the law.
SHANNY YOUR BLIND!!! |
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mandree888
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
400 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 13:06:50
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this is an interesting situation (and i agree this is absolutley absurd that there was no suspension.) but IMO i think that if shanny gave a suspension he would be accused for favoritism, as he played for the wings.
that being said the fact that only 2500 was given(wich is peanuts) is absurd. definetly should have been more money if not a suspension.
i swear shanny said "ok now weber hold out your hand *smack*, now here's a candy dont do it again"
that "punishment" was bad it will not deter weber from doing it again. |
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mandree888
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
400 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2012 : 13:41:31
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| One this is certain thought. This series just got A LOT more interesting. the division rivals are gonna tear each others heads off. if you though the phi pit games were gonna be rough. this one will most likely be right up there with it. |
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 15:55:17
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Poor call by the NHL and Shanahan not to suspend Weber for at least one game - he deserved it. Quite simply, it's star treatment for a star player, and I am sure that Nashville being Nashville comes into play as well.
I hate it when politics muddies a sport.
I never posted before the first game, but I predicted that Nashville would take the series in 6 games. I think they match up well, and Detroit won't have the moxy to push back under a big and stifling defence that is accompanied by a fairly solid, defensively sound forward cast.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/12/2012 : 16:36:00
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I too think a game suspension was due here. It wasn't the most vicious slam of the head into the boards, but it was one nonetheless! This is basically to say now that you can whack a guy over the head with your stick as long as it's not too hard? Know what i'm saying?
What if, tonight, someone does the exact same thing, but a little harder and results in a slight concussion? How then will Shanny explain the resulting suspension? |
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PREDS VS. RED WINGS 
