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PainTrain
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Canada
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 Posted - 08/28/2007 : 17:10:16
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Poll Question:
Who will win the Canada vs. Russia Super Series?
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 17:50:51
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Canada had a good first game...or more like secong and third period. I think we will win it but thats what they said 30 years ago and it was pretty close. Only time will tell.
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Tyler 26
Top Prospect
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 20:10:32
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| Canada has a very good chance at winning this thing I think. They came out of the gate a liitle shaky in game one but managed to come back which was good. If they can manage to stay out the penalty box in game two and the rest of the games they shouldnt have a problem with Russia. |
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Huntman
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 08/28/2007 : 21:01:41
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the hockey guy
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 08/30/2007 : 09:09:38
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| Canada is definatly dominating the series. They are winning all the races and face offs. They are out-hitting them and out shooting them. They have solid goaltending,defense and consistent offence. They also have a better coching staff. Sutter hasn't lost a game behind a Canadian bench! (knock wood) |
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 11:51:05
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Canada won the Super Series 7-0-1 outscoring the Russians 39-13.
Clearly this series din't have the same impact as the Summit Series in '72. However, I can see the drubbing that the Canadian team laid on the Russian serving as a wake-up call to their national program as the 1972 series served as a wake-up call to Canada.
Any thoughts? |
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admin
Forum Admin
Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 12:18:45
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| Well it can be used as a benchmark for future Russian programs anyway. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 12:41:25
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I am a little rusty at history, but in 1972 we played the USSR (CCCP) which in 1991 split into 15 different countries. Russia is the largest by far, but I am sure there are some good players that are not playing that are from some of the others like Belarus, Ukraine, Latvia, and Kazakstan, just to name a few…
We were much better as a team, and if you watched all the games the Russian goal tenders were their weakest link.
In 1972 goal tending was their strong point, without Tretiak I do not think the series would have been that close...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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willus3
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Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 16:34:35
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quote:
Originally posted by spade632
Canada won the Super Series 7-0-1 outscoring the Russians 39-13.
Clearly this series din't have the same impact as the Summit Series in '72. However, I can see the drubbing that the Canadian team laid on the Russian serving as a wake-up call to their national program as the 1972 series served as a wake-up call to Canada.
Any thoughts?
The 72 series wasn't necessarily a wake up call. Canada didn't have all it's best players even playing in the tournament. Bobby Hull wasn't allowed because the NHL was choked that he went to the WHA. Gordie Howe could probably contributed nicely as well. Bobby Orr was injured and couldn't play. Those are three of the games all time greatest. Had they been playing the series would have been a sweep for Canada. That's not a knock against Russia, it's just how good those three guys were.
The latest series could end up being a wake up call for Russia. We'll know in a few years I guess.
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 09/11/2007 : 23:33:25
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Originally posted by PuckNuts
In 1972 goal tending was their strong point, without Tretiak I do not think the series would have been that close...
Tretiak was scouted as being unable to stop a beach ball. (Based on one game where he let in 8 goals just a few weeks before the series was to start) Clearly, he was much better than that, he became a hero for Soviet Russia and out of all the Soviet players probably won the most respect from Canadian fans. That said, crediting Tretiak as THE reason the series was close seems a bit farfetched. While I recognize that a few of the best Canadian players weren't playing, the Soviet's team game, at least initially blew the Canadians away. And, the Soviet players were no slouches either, Valeri Kharlamov was one of the best players in the tournament. Yakushev and Mikhailov weren't bad either.
In some ways, the '72 series and the '07 series are polar opposites.
In '72 Soviet teamplay played havoc with the Candians and in '07 the Canadian team game decimated the Russians.
Interestingly, Lebedev credits Canada's relentless physical game for their winning the series. The constant hard checking interrupted the flow of the Soviet Game.
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Going into the tournament, the prediction was an 8-0 sweep... the series would be over before they even left for Moscow. Losing 7-3 in Game 1 was a complete shock to Canada. After going up 2-0 6:32 in Rod Gilbert has admitted that he thought the score would get to be 15 or 17-0 and he wanted to get on the ice to get some goals (In "The Days Canada Stood Still") Also, even if Howe, Hull, and Orr had been playing for Canada I don't think that Canada would have swept. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 09/12/2007 : 11:04:34
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In 1972 we outshot the USSR team 267 to 227, 40 shots more over 8 games.
Tretiak save % was .895.
Dryden/Esposito save % was .859.
Yes the USSR had some great players, but Tretiak out played our top Goalies, and that was what kept the series so close...
I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/07/2008 : 23:23:04
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I predict Canada will. :D haha
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 01/08/2008 : 15:21:20
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PuckNuts makes a good point. We palyed the USSR back then. But I think that by making it Russia, you are only losing out on at most one or two players that would make the team.
IN the NHL right now, notable guys from the former USSR that might make the team:
Ruslan Fedetenko
Alexei Ponikarovsky
Alexei Zhitnik
Nik Antropov
I can't think of any others
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/08/2008 : 16:02:34
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Nabakov is originally from Kazahakstan, but plays for the Russians. :(
Wish he'd play for Kaz, might have a chance in some tournies. lol
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Who will win the Canada vs. Russia Super Series? 
