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PuckNuts
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Posted - 12/13/2007 :  17:16:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Alex

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Originally posted by kingwoody2

I would pick Chad Kilger. This guy competes every single night. If they all worked as hard as him they would win quite a few more games.


Yes, but he is not very talented. Compared to the other options.



Who said you have to be the most talented to be the captain.

You need to be a leader, and lead by example.

There is not a Leaf player on the team that deserves to be captain in Toronto. They will have to trade for a player that has the qualities to be a Leaf Captain.

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan


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Alex
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Canada
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Posted - 12/13/2007 :  17:21:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And really, you want Kilger to go up with Sittler Sundin and GIlmour? Kaberle has been with the team forever, he deserves it the most. He could be on that list eventually, not the greatest by a long shot, but he could be there. KILGER?

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Jeremy12
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Canada
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Posted - 12/14/2007 :  16:14:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PuckNuts

quote:
Originally posted by Alex

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Originally posted by kingwoody2

I would pick Chad Kilger. This guy competes every single night. If they all worked as hard as him they would win quite a few more games.


Yes, but he is not very talented. Compared to the other options.



Who said you have to be the most talented to be the captain.

You need to be a leader, and lead by example.

There is not a Leaf player on the team that deserves to be captain in Toronto. They will have to trade for a player that has the qualities to be a Leaf Captain.

I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.
- - Marshall McLuhan






A good example for that would be Jason Smith

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Alex
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Canada
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Posted - 12/15/2007 :  17:59:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not to seem like a know-it-all, but I think it would be a slight to the honour of the greats the franchise has seen to name anybody on the squad right now captain after Mats. Kaberle maybe, but it is a puch. In three years, you never know.

If the confusion is this high then, personally, they should go with no captain.

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Posted - 12/17/2007 :  22:59:27  Reply with Quote
A duck they found in the parking lot
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ERTW0T9
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Posted - 12/18/2007 :  02:08:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well,

If you recall when Mats was made captain, this whole debate whether Mats was good enough or had the leadership popped up several times. For all the people who doubted the skill set of Mats' leadership, I feel they were proven wrong. So, interestingly enough what would happen if players like Kaberle or McCabe got the C on their sweater? I have a feeling their play would elevate.

Just remember, captains in the NHL are leaders, but leaders by example. The qualities of a good captain are exhibited in reliant and clutch players and can handle the brunt of team underachievement. Scoring a clutch goal, making a stirring speech in the dressing room, a physical shift are all examples of what captains need to do on a regular basis to be effective. Even more so, however, the next Leaf captain will have to be able to absorb the pressure of being captain of the Leafs with the poise that Mats has.

So what does it come down to? In my eyes, Kaberle is the only player on the Leafs' roster who would be directly in line for the captaincy. One could argue that his lack lustre play of late hasn't been inspiring but I'm sure his play would elevate should he be promoted. What he really lacks is the grit and noticeable desire and passion that Mats exhibits. When he gets a burr under his saddle, you can see it in his eyes. Kabby, not so much emotion. As for trading for a captain, I don't know of anyone who could fill the shoes of Mats who isn't a captain already.
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Axey
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Canada
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Posted - 12/18/2007 :  04:54:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't imagine a Habs/Leafs battle without Koivu and Sundin, both awesome captains. But back to the topic I would say Blake, Kaberle or Wellwood. Stajan or Steen will be future captains for sure, no question
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Alex
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Canada
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Posted - 12/18/2007 :  06:11:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Axey, why Blake? Is he really a leader on the team? The guy is softspoken and timid, which are not bad qualities, but yet... He has not been with the guys his whole career as other guys have. He does not have the experience in T.O. others do. So why him? Talent alone doesn't make you a captain.

I'm not doubting he is an option, I am saying that he is not a good one.

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Bleeding Blue and White
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Posted - 12/18/2007 :  06:36:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is too early to tell if any player on the Leafs can pick up their game. Tomas Kaberle would probably be the best choice right now.

~Long Live the Leafs~
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