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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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 Posted - 11/09/2007 : 20:39:44
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Poll Question:
Inspired by another thread. They're debating whether highlight goals or hard hitting hockey is better. So that's the question. Do you like to watch highlight real hockey or hard hitting hockey.
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fly4apuckguy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
834 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2007 : 21:09:33
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A bit of both. The best games are the ones where the players act like there is something on the line, play abit angry, and score a few nice goals, mixed with a few amazing saves.
Oh, and no Russians are playing.
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ED11
Rookie
Canada
224 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2007 : 21:52:58
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| The game of hockey is about both. There aren't many who can debate that. But I think that for the game to be at its best you really have to have both hard hits and great goals. But. Lets not forget about the passing game either. It gets overlooked, but for me it's just as good! :) |
Edited by - ED11 on 11/09/2007 21:53:58 |
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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
Japan
891 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 06:53:47
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Obviously I was pleased with the outcome, but take a look at the highlights of last night's Boston-Buffalo game.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=207187&cl=4960716&ch=240479&src=sports
I like these type of games for a few reasons:
1. The INTENSITY is showing big time - good hitting and edginess
2. Some nice wide open play (but not just that)
3. Very good goaltending
To me this is a classic example of a great game without a lot of goals. Boston and Montreal used to have a lot of these too.
Another thing which definitely helps is a great announcer. Compare Rick Jeanneret to the guy who did the Leafs game last night. Even greater, go back and listen to Danny Gallivan doing the Habs games. That's another HUGE intangible that goes into the "excitement" thing I think - for the TV viewer anyway. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 08:21:30
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| Last night's Edmonton and Calgary game was exciting. A lot of shots, great goaltending and a lot of hitting. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 08:23:46
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A bit of both is the best. I love to see a great open ice hit as well as seing a great goal.
As a player, a great goal is slightly better then a big hit, although I love it when a player is over center ice with his head down. Then I line up for the hit... |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2007 : 08:26:10
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For the Boston-Buffalo game I think Fly will be happy with Afinogenov's turnover that leads to a Bruins goal! That announcer is fantastic, he makes the game so much mroe exciting. That should have been a highscoring game but the goalies were on there toes. Just watching that video from the compliments of AndyHack I wish I would have seen the whole game not the Leafs and Rangers play. |
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habshockey
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/11/2007 : 15:33:57
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I like a combonation of the 2. Hitting makes the game exciting and nice goals are just fun to watch
losers since 67 will have to wait another year |
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redwings85
Top Prospect
Canada
20 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2007 : 06:20:37
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I enjoy both.
w/o lame calls.
it gets rather frustrating, watching 2 good teams go at it, to watch cheesey hooking, holding calls. . .
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2007 : 06:24:19
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Hitting is not a 'genre' of hockey, it is an aspect. It is like saying 'Which is better, snipage or dangles?' Hockey is not measured by that. Sure, TSN loves throwing in the crunching-Phaneuf hits, or the pretty plays Crosby or the Sens generate. But is hockey honour rolls? Hockey, at its best, is 60 minutes of end to end action. It is not dump and chase, it is not a clogged up neutral zone, it is not goaltenders playing the puck, and, really it is not powerplays. One sided hockey with a minute and a half of cycling the puck / retrieving it when it is dumped, and a handful of shots, half of which do not hit the net: that does more for your blood pressure than for the actual game. Good hockey is action. End of story. Thoughts?
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2007 : 07:50:57
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quote:
Originally posted by andyhack
Obviously I was pleased with the outcome, but take a look at the highlights of last night's Boston-Buffalo game.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=207187&cl=4960716&ch=240479&src=sports
I like these type of games for a few reasons:
1. The INTENSITY is showing big time - good hitting and edginess
2. Some nice wide open play (but not just that)
3. Very good goaltending
To me this is a classic example of a great game without a lot of goals. Boston and Montreal used to have a lot of these too.
Another thing which definitely helps is a great announcer. Compare Rick Jeanneret to the guy who did the Leafs game last night. Even greater, go back and listen to Danny Gallivan doing the Habs games. That's another HUGE intangible that goes into the "excitement" thing I think - for the TV viewer anyway.
Andy you are 100% right,,, Mtl Boston games are the best and an announcer is actually a big part of a game,, as weird as that sounds but an anouncer who knows what points to really devellop in a game is great for a game
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2007 : 08:05:18
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Pasty, that is also true. Anouncers, and especially colour commentators, that masterfully exhibit the traits to do their job well, make the game a lot more fun. Watching games on T.V. in the US sucks.
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2312 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2007 : 08:23:26
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Originally posted by Alex
Pasty, that is also true. Anouncers, and especially colour commentators, that masterfully exhibit the traits to do their job well, make the game a lot more fun. Watching games on T.V. in the US sucks.
Habs get number 25 this year
I'm from montreal and most of the time if i watch a game its in french (im not french but i speak it well) and well rds i find produce a great hockey game i just really despise the announcers,, they are so one sided for example ryder hasn't been so hot lately and oh do they ragg on him all game long,, but latendress who is medicore on his best days is some sort of god out there,, then you have koivu where on games like last night they call him god and a great leader then on a night where he doesn;t make an obvious difference we should get rid of him as soon as possible... just things like that get to me and make the game less enjoyable to watch
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 12/16/2007 : 08:29:46
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Well I think it can be argued that impartialism is, simply put, boring. Why do you think Don Cherry was up for Top 10 Canadian and not Mr. Maclean, I think I may have spelled that wrong. It is because he gives his opinion, while Ron shies away from ever contradicting him. Maybe his ego runs a little too freely, but I respect someone who says what is on their mind. You get a more accurate picture when the analysts come out and say point blank 'you know what, Ryder stinks' rather than 'well, Ryder has not been so hot as of late, but fortunately Kovalev has been putting pucks in, which is good. Let us talk about Kovalev...'
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Berniefan4life
Top Prospect
Canada
20 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 08:07:09
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Both...
Remember a check is to remove the puck from the player. There is nothing better than watching someone hits the puck handler and comes up with the puck and passes it to a teammate and take off. That's Hockey. Hard check, and moving the puck the other way. To a highlight scoring opportunity... Not always a goal but an opportunity.
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I´m also Cånädiön
Rookie
Sweden
217 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 09:03:43
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I prefer watching Detroit games if its NHL as they play a skilled puckcontrolling european style of hockey. Some big hits now and then just makes it better.
Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZoX_nlYKg8
Adding Hemsky and Lundqvist to the Wings wouldn´t hurt the watchability if there is such a word. |
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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
877 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 09:32:04
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| I like speedy, hard-hitting hockey. A wide-open game with end to end action with alot of flow to the game. i know people will say "well you don't know hockey if you dont appreciate the defensive sit-back game", well yes I know its smart hockey and gets the job done, but I don't find it as exciting as the hockey I've just mentioned. The annoucers also play a huge part as well, I get alot more into the game watching HNC then watching TSN, maybe because I've grown to it and I'm old fasioned with that, but hey its what I like. Also games with a rivalry are good games as well (EX: MTL & TOR/BOS), alot of history and hate makes for an exciting 60 minutes of intense hockey |
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Guest4912
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Posted - 12/17/2007 : 12:10:52
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run and gun, hard hitting, intense, high light reel stuff.
of course, there will be few games like that , realistically thinkgin. |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 15:21:07
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quote:
Originally posted by I´m also Cånädiön
I prefer watching Detroit games if its NHL as they play a skilled puckcontrolling european style of hockey. Some big hits now and then just makes it better.
Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZoX_nlYKg8
Adding Hemsky and Lundqvist to the Wings wouldn´t hurt the watchability if there is such a word.
It is true, the European style of today greatly outclasses the gritty, dump and chase, defensive first Canadian stlye of today in terms of entertainment value
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Antroman
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
537 Posts |
Posted - 12/17/2007 : 21:39:37
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| The games played by these trapping teams like the Habs and Boston are generally a snore. Coaches like Carboneau and Julien are defensive tacticians and do more harm to the game than good and most especially on the road. I felt sorry for the people who paid major bucks to see the last Tor/Bos game, There are a good many who only get to go once a year and they really look forward to the game and the spectacle they have been waiting for is a borer like that one. The only good thing was the score was close. Unfortunately this type of defensive hockey wins for mediocre teams and now I can see where some of the better teams are using it. Their motto is if you can't beat them join them. Odd man rushes are becoming less and less common and many teams are starting to look the same in their systems with just the uniforms being different. |
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Antroman
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
537 Posts |
Posted - 12/18/2007 : 08:30:12
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| Alex, They have some very fast forwards who counter attack from the trap that lead to some exciting plays for sure but once the opposition gets control of the puck they play a very tight fall back to the neutral zone type defense with usually one high fore checker and sometimes none. Sometimes the neutral zone is so crowded you couldn't get a snake through there. Once they get a lead on you they are one of the best at protecting it and slowing the game down to a crawl. Boston is the exact same and so is Jersey. Alot of other teams are adopting this style as well and it works, especially for teams with an abundance of small fast forwards. The last Bos/Tor game we counted all ten players in the neutral zone four times and the zone ain't that big anymore? Scoring is down big time in the new NHL as this is the defense of choice now. Because the players have adapted to the hooking and holding there are less penalties and generally more choppy play. What the league didn't take into consideration was that neutral zone hooking and holding or generally interfering with the opposition allowed the more skilled players a lot more open ice because when like Antropov for instance illegally held a forechecker up a little, then Sundin and Ponikarovsky could break away. You can't do that anymore. Sometimes now it looks like a professional shinny game out there!!!!! |
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What kind of hockey do you like to watch? 
