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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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 Posted - 01/23/2010 : 09:47:58
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/23/2010 : 16:46:08
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*huge sigh*
I see it like this...
Yes, the elbow to the head was indeed, very wrong. Never should have happened. But this kid is not a goon. He's a hard working player, who plays with intensity and physicality. But not a goon.
He made a very big mistake, but this is the type of player I believe will learn from his mistakes, and not repeat the incident in the future. Once he serves his time and reflects on the situation.
He was named Captain of Team Canada for a reason. All of the talent on Canada, he was named Captain as a third-line player. That says something about him on and off the ice.
It never should have happened, but it did. In the end, I believe he deserves what he gets suspension wise, no police action. And I also believe he'll learn from this incident. Give him a second chance.
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fat_elvis_rocked
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 01/23/2010 : 21:12:50
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Just as a little twist to the upcoming going-ons once the discipline is announced.
If Cormier doesn't get suspended for the remainder of the season, does Liambas then have grounds to appeal his suspension? I realize the incidents are from two different sub leauges of the CHL, but does one precedent negate the other if the suspension isn't similar?
I only ask due to the fact that in recent light, Cormier has proven to be a bit of a thug as well, the world junior being of the biggest stage, and him doing something similar.
In my opinion, if they don't give Cormier the rest of the season, the QMJHL is sending out entirely the wrong message. The OHL then also looks overly militant if that is the case. No win for anyone, especially Tam and Fanelli.
Is a plugger thought of with that less of an opinion than a 'prospect'? I guess we'll see. It would be a shame, it takes a lot of pluggers to make that prospect look as good as he does.... |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 01/23/2010 : 21:39:06
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I can't see him getting anything less than the rest of the season. Especially after this other hit (Kassian) gets 20 games and the kid he hit was not hurt at least not nearly as bad.
However, what's the real punishment. Cormier is already drafted and will more than likely crack the Devils next season, or at the least be in the AHL still making cash.
It's almost like a bit of time off for the kid.
To the Kassian hit for a second. Does anyone else find it incredibly telling that these kids are intending on hurting people with these hits when the are skating backwards with their gloves off as soon as they get up after laying the hit?? Kassian anyway. I thought that garbage. |
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Guest8764
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Posted - 01/24/2010 : 08:53:22
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I really don't mean to give offense here but are there a lot of actual hockey players on this forum? This "intent to injure" thing gets thrown around so willy-nilly these days and it drives me crazy.
The fact of the matter was, is, and always will be that in hockey or any other physical sport you sometimes throw a hit that you shouldn't have thrown. You don't think about it before you do it and you certainly feel like an idiot after you do it.
Give these guys a little more credit. If they really wanted to injure each other you would be seeing a lot more injuries. These are two-hundred pound human beings traveling at 30 miles per hour for god's sake!
Yeah, the elbow's up, he goes out of his way to get a piece of the other player, it's dirty but I seriously doubt that there was a significant amount of thought that went into it. Bit of a rant but c'mon, who actually wants to hurt another guys who makes his living the same way you do? |
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Guest0950
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Posted - 01/24/2010 : 19:00:47
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Originally posted by Guest8764
Bit of a rant but c'mon, who actually wants to hurt another guys who makes his living the same way you do?
Mike Tyson. Pick almost any DB in the NFL.
You would like hockey players?
Bertuzzi.
McSorley.
M. Richards.
C. Pronger.
Liambas.
Cormier.
Kassian.
I'm sure I've left out a lot of hockey and non hockey names. |
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Guest2789
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Posted - 01/25/2010 : 12:53:49
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Originally posted by Guest9273
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Originally posted by Guest2789
This punk is an embarassment to Canadian hockey. Why we didn't win a gold..because of goons like this kid on the team.
LOL .. Yes we didn't win because he throws an elbow weeks later. That goon was picked as captain, and you probably loved the guy a few weeks ago. Now you're just jumping on the hate bandwagon.
You obviously did not watch the WJC....You are a goon if you think this is good hockey. |
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sharksfan44
Rookie
Canada
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 01/26/2010 : 00:26:36
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This was def worse than what Liambas did imo. The suspension seems fair and i don't even wanna start getting into the other stuff that gets brought up everytime something like this happens:
1. call the cops
2. what if a guy pulls a knife
3. extent of injury should be defined by how long victim is out
4. intentional / unintentional
5. etc, etc...
Bottom line is this, it was a brutal, flagrant, attempt to injure and he should and has been punished. Hopefully Tam recovers and can resume his career and Cormier can get past an incident that i'm sure he truly regrets. |
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Guest9661
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Posted - 01/26/2010 : 18:45:09
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Originally posted by sharksfan44
cormier got his suspension today. it's for the remainder of the season and the playoffs as well.
http://www.tsn.ca/chl/story/?id=307618
This kid is a joke. First he fully accepts the decision. Now he respects the decision but thinks it is a little harsh and setting up to appeal.
You know what is harsh Patrice? Not being able to count to ten because you can't remember what number you are now at because some punk elbowed you in the head and injured your brain. You know what else is harsh, not ever being able to play hockey again because of your brain injury from an elbow to the head.
If he appeals, I hope this goes before a judge and let's see how much respect he has for a judge's decision. Hope he fully accepts that decision.
Do the crime, do the time. Cormier is a punk a$$ kid. If he appeals and gets his time reduced, I hope he gets injured on the first game he comes back (I know that's harsh - but damn it this kid is seriously pi$$ing me off). |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/26/2010 : 19:03:09
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I think the appeal is more coming from the team, they invested a lot in him and only had him for 3 game.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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Guest9661
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Posted - 01/26/2010 : 20:49:00
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Originally posted by Canucks Man
I think the appeal is more coming from the team, they invested a lot in him and only had him for 3 game.
Too fXXXXXXX bad for the team. Michael Tam had quite a bit invested in his life too.
This quote I find disturbing coming from the Rouyn Norand Huskies:
"It’s unreal to have Patrice take the blame for all past incidents. One person alone cannot carry that heavy responsibility,” Tourigny said."
Cormier is not alone to carry the responsibility. Tam and all victims like him carry a much higher burden that this heartless coach Tourigny will ever experience. He should talk to Tam and all victims like him and ask who has a heavier burden, Cormier being suspended for the season or Tam not remembering meeting Tourigny ever as Tourigny is standing there before him. I guess that 's the kind of heartlessness needed when another coach can send out his son to cross check another kid in the head during a stoppage in play.... but that's another rant.
My respect for this team and Cormier has just sunk below that of a sewer rat. C'mon Q, stick to your guns and if I may suggest add another year for every appeal.
R-N Huskies is quite the classless org. |
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Posted - 01/27/2010 : 05:48:39
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I think the suspension is light.
I hope Cormier gets his due once he reaches the NHL, because he deserves it. Hopefully he doesn't end anyone else's career before that happens . . .
I love hockey, but a lot of things in Canadian hockey culture are really rotten right now, and getting worse.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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HawkinOilCountry
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 01/27/2010 : 06:55:37
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Yea the Huskies are appealing, not Cormier. Tourigny is trying to win a Championship, or at least make a good run for one becasue his team is almost bankrupt and they want to attract sponsors. They're appealling becasue they brought Cormier in to try and save the team. I have no sympathy for them myself, but thought I'd share the "feel good" story I heard on TSN last night.
Cormier thinks the suspension is harsh, I personally think it's not harsh enough. But you can't hand out suspensions across different leagues so i guess this is as tough as it's going to get.
I hope he never makes it to the NHL, especially to New Jersey. Don't want to see a good team tarnished by garbage like Patrice Cormier. Let him languish in the AHL until he's too old to play.
The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal. |
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/28/2010 : 15:50:51
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I have a cousin, who is currently around 30 years of age.
Anyways,
When he was playing minor hockey he was cross-checked from behind, head first in to the end boards.
The sad part of this, is that he is paralyzed from this incident. He has never walked since. But one thing he said to me is this...
"Although I can never play hockey again, due to somebody else' actions. I don't wish it upon him to suffer the same as I did. Accidents happen, extreme as the consicience may be."
So to say that you hope Cormier gets "his" upon arriving in the NHL, is the harshest of this. You don't ever wish the same upon anyone, especially if it never happened to you. Things happen, extreme yes.
But in the end, I'm sure he'll learn his lesson. So don't ruin the rest of his life and career over an accident. As extreme as it may be.
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Patrice Cormier Ejected From QMJL Game 
