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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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 Posted - 08/06/2010 : 07:07:41
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Quite a few people wont like this.Maxim Afinogenov will be signing a 5 year deal with SKA of the KHL.That team is like the heat all over again.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 08:58:40
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| nah, let him go. I'm sure teams were sniffing around, but he was not going to get a 5 year deal from any NHL team for significant money. I heard rumours on the Canucks board that he was seeking 3.5 to 5M per year for 5 years. |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 09:05:33
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Quite a few people wont like this.Maxim Afinogenov will be signing a 5 year deal with SKA of the KHL.That team is like the heat all over again.
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the heat got tyhe three best players in the NBA who took discounts to play together,, SKA is getting NHL rejects i fail to see the comparison
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Pasty7
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 12:36:48
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is it just me or does anyone else feel John Madden at 1million per year is a steal,, because according to TSN the Wild have signed the defensive specialist to a 1 year deal for 1 million,,
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 13:07:17
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| yeah, I would have taken Madden @ 1M. Along those lines, I'm a bit surprised that Ryan Johnson hasn't signed anywhere yet. That guy was awesome for the Canucks last year, when he wasn't on the IR with a broken bone... |
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Pasty7
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 14:18:32
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Beans Martin Gerber has signed with Edmonton Oilers.
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 14:47:31
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Beans Martin Gerber has signed with Edmonton Oilers.
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It's a 2 way contract for one season so obviously it not for much.
This is just insurance for if Khabibulin is in the jug for the season or his back surgery didn't work.
As Slozo said a while back, yawn. Nothing special here. |
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 15:23:00
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Chris Chelios retires at the age of 108.(49)
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Posted - 08/06/2010 : 19:26:03
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Well Beans, I wouldn't say nothing completely special . . . it just underlines the chances of the Oil being a contender as slim as Khabibulin's chances of playing a full and healthy season at the top of his game.
'Cause Gerber is not a stop-gap you want, and I speak as a fan with experience on this one.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 00:17:26
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irvine
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Posted - 08/07/2010 : 01:26:44
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The Finnish Flash (Teemu Selanne) has decided to re-sign with the Anaheim Ducks. The contract is expected to be done within the next couple of weeks.
Also, Selanne said in the interview (done with a Finnish magazine), the he has spoke with Paul Kariya (Former teammate) and made a pitch the Ducks to sign him.
He then said Paul has been waiting on Teemu's decision to re-join the Ducks, before deciding his own fate.
Perhaps, since Paul has waited, Kariiya will be taking a low dollar, one year contract to re-join friend and former teammate Selanne.
If so, the Ducks will improve an already impressive offensive core up front.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 10:03:13
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Detroit has signed Ruslan Salei to a 1 year contract.
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Jumbo Joe Rocks
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 11:11:48
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Riley Cote retires becomes phantoms assistant coach.
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Alex116
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Posted - 08/09/2010 : 21:48:26
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Oh, and I am in tears about Afinogenov going to that "superteam" in the KHL . . . a superteam of NHL re-tread C tier players. lol
I really don't know if this Kariya/Selane thing will work.
Selanne is probably in his last or second last year, still an effective 2nd liner who can get close to 30 goals a season . . . he's gotten 27 each of the last two years in 65 and 55 games, amazing stuff really. And yet, I don't know if Kariya will physically survive the next season, seems like he is starting to break down, and his skills have greatly diminished, compared to Selanne's. Not sure how an older, more average speed Selanne gets complemented by an even older looking Kariya (for today's NHL) . . . but we'll see. I just don't see long healthy seasons for either player.
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irvine
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 02:15:54
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Well slozo, I think it would be more of an 'attitude' thing for both players, more than their physical shape at this point.
Selanne is still skilled, we know that. But, Kariya, I think, could play well in an atmosphere where he is re-united with an old teammate and friend. Not playing for the young, St. Luis Blues who are in development mode.
Also, I think this works vice-versa. Both Neidermayer and Selanne last year made their decision for another year, based on each other. I think, Selanne has to have a close friend playing with him at this age, to enjoy being there every day. Or, so it seems.
He has fellow countrymen Saku Koivu who re-signed, and I believe Toni Lydman is also Finnish, who just signed there. Add in an old friend, in Kariya, and I think we could see all four guys benefit.
I honestly think it has a lot to do with making the older guys more comfortable. Mainly, Selanne. With Neids gone, it seems (since selanne brought it all up to both Kariya and management), that he wants an old friend in the lockeroom.
Also, Kariya played some time there. Perhaps, it's where he wishes to retire, so a last year (and cup run perhaps), in Anaheim would benefit him.
For older guys, I really think attitude and comfort begins to play a big part.
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Posted - 08/10/2010 : 10:56:19
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Well, as an example for both Kariya and Selanne's prospects for the coming season (if Kariya signs with the Ducks at a huge discount, as is being reported), look at when they joined up in Colorado.
03/04 season - Colorado Avalanche (still a powerhouse team at the time)
Kariya: 51gp, 11g, 25a, 36 pts
Selanne: 78gp, 16g, 16a, 32 pts
All the poolies thought Selanne was washed up after that season, and he obviously came back strong a couple seasons later with an amazing 40 goal effort.
All I am pointing out is, I think this could well turn into a year like the one they had in Colorado. For Kariya, it might be expected a bit; but for Selanne, it's be a disappointment.
Just my two cents from a veteran poolie! 
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irvine
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 14:47:23
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Well Slozo,
No one is expecting Paul Kariya to even play 1st/2nd line minutes, so expecting the guy to be a huge point producer, shouldn't be expected either.
Just because both guys failed to produce 70+ points while playing on the same Roster in Colorado for the season, a few years ago that, should not dictate what both are capable of (as we've seen before), and still do with Selanne. In fact, we should disregard that year altogether as it really is irrelevant now.
Kariya would make a good addition to the Ducks 3rd line. He likely will not see a ton of PP time (not even 2nd unit), but as you pointed out, he is still capable of roughly 40 points. Even on the 3rd line.
40 Points, playing 3rd line minutes is pretty decent in my opinion. Especially, if being shifted around getting time with Selanne, I see this as a real possibility.
No one expects Kariya to lead the team in goals, assists nor points. That's left to Getzlaff, Perry & Ryan. Kariya & Selanne would be slotted in as secondary scoring, along side of Koivu & Lupul.
Then, the younger guys like Sexton & Bonino.
Anaheim have enough offensive guys. Adding Kariya, would simply be for more depth and to again, as I mentioned, leadership and attitude. Which, is worth more than his production.
Kariya is a leader. After losing Neidermayer, they could use a little more veteran leadership there with Selanne & Koivu.
Selanne will see his ice time slowly dropping too, as guys like Sexton & Bonino are developing, and will require more ice time.
So Lupul, Koivu, Sexton & Bonino, will likely rotate 2nd/3rd time ice time with Selanne and Kariya.
So at $2M (we'll say), for a depth guy with offensive upside still, and a real leader in the NHL, seems like a good pick up to me. Especially, if it makes the Finnish Flash happier too.
But, as a veteran poolie, you should know that they are not bringing Kariya in for his offensive skills. :)
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irvine
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 16:08:40
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The Calgary Flames have re-signed former Captain Craig Conroy to a 1-year deal. The financial terms of the deal have yet to be disclosed.
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This, adds on to the salary cap that Calgary is already over. The deal is likely worth $1M or less (Or, atleast, should be). So, it does not add a great deal more.
But, you have to think that one of Calgary's 8 NHL playable defenders, will be moved out of town soon. Who that will be, is unknown to me at this time. But, without looking, including Conroy's deal I would suspect Calgary is nearing $3.2M over the Cap. (I have little time, as I am leaving for work in a moment), but please, if somebody can, post their current Cap hit for me. And, we'll add $1M or so for Mr. Conroy to it.
That means, the Flames must remove atleast $3.5M in CAP, and preferably, $5M to have injury space.
Not sure what real value Conroy brings, but.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/11/2010 : 22:48:01
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Jokinen, Tanguay, Conroy...they're putting the band back together!
Other than veteran leadership and a somewhat dependable centre, I'm not sure either. I can only think that they still hope that the Conroy/Iggy fire can be rekindled again. |
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 05:43:46
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Irvine - If they are not bringing in Kariya for offence . . . they are bring him in for what - his stellar defence? His banging and crashing? Other than a bit of leadership in the dressing room (and that is really debateable at this point), what else is there?
I don't think Kariya is a very good 3rd line player, that's the thing . . . and I don't think he'd spend a lot of time there. Who does Anaheim have at LW? Carter, on the first line. Then they have the amazing Jason Blake, who is a hard enough skater that he could play on the third line (not my third line, you understand!). And then, you have prospect Beleskey, who could turn into another young top 6 player, but who knows, and Vorros on the fourth line.
I say they try Kariya on the second line, and when that fails, he sits in the press box. They are looking for some old magic with Selanne, and if it happens, it happens - and if it doesn't, no biggie, and Kariya will be released by the club and Beleskey will move up.
How often did you see Kariya play on the third line in St.Louis? Because I certainly don't ever remember seeing that . . . and to suggest that I am expecting "huge numbers" is disingenuous of you - it's a strawman argument, as I never claimed that Kariya would be expected to play the first line. But second line, yes, and my thinking is that he would never be a true third line player.
But that's just the veteran poolie in me talking.
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 08:50:28
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Apparently the Leafs have sign Eric Belanger...
and Kaberle is a done deal.
Leafs can't confirm the Belanger trade until the Kaberle trade goes through because they have too many players under contract... |
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 08:59:48
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Guest 7924 - source?
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irvine
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Posted - 08/12/2010 : 12:01:23
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Slozo: Not all teams have to follow the 3rd line, grinder mold.
By 3rd line, I meant minute wise when compared to other teams. He may be considered the 2nd line player, but, he's not going to get more ice time than younger guys. Essentially, he'll receive 3rd line minutes when compared.
Now, as for 'strawman' argument that you allude to every time somebody says something to you, that you do not agree with -- you pointed out his 36 points. By suggesting that was a terrible year (For Kariya, sure. For an NHL player not playing top-line.. no.) You implied (to me anyways), that you expect a lot more points out of him. And, he's not going to do it at this age.
Anaheim will be bringing him in (if they do), because Selanne wants it. As I already stated. It's to keep the Flash happy. Perhaps, Selanne only re-signed if he could play with his old friend, in Kariya. As, Mr. Selanne kind of alluded to already.
Having a happy core is important. Selanne is a leader, Kariya is a leader & so is Koivu. Having all of them help out Getzlaff, Perry & Ryan, etc... is good for the future of those guys.
And, as I said. He will provide secondary scoring, which helps and of course is useful.
But, they are not bringing him in to be their leading scorer. That's all I was saying.
What being a poolie has to do with any of it, is beyond me.
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 04:59:22
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irvine - please don't take offence too easily, just joking around with the poolie thing . . . humour doesn't always translate well on the keyboard.
Well, the reason I though it was a "strawman" argument - an argument which supposes that I am arguing something which I never did, then defends it vociferously - is because you mentioned first line player, that's why. We all know the top line in Anaheim is set, so it's a moot point.
For ANY second line player - that is, a player getting regular second line minutes - the 45-60 point range is expected, with the lower point guys bringing something more to the table. In Kariya's case, I would argue he is somewhat one-dimensional, in that he is only there for offense. He's small, will get pushed around, and isn't one of the fastest guys on the ice anymore . . . and he is certainly not a physical player. Which means, from a practical standpoint, he should be producing above 50, 55 points per season if healthy and playing second line - something I find very unlikely. Well, maybe Anaheim thinks so too, which is why it's a gamble.
All to my point which is, Kariya is unlikely to stick around in a regular NHL lineup if Anaheim signs him. From a poolie standpoint, I'd be very wary of him . . . because the "romantic hockey" side of you may WANT him to succeed with Selanne again, but the reality is, it probably isn't going to happen.
He has never been the same player since that hip thing.
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 09:49:07
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Just to chime in, I think people grossly overestimate the number of 45+ point forwards there are in the NHL.
Last season, there were just 116 forwards who scored 45 or more point. My crazy math tells me that on average, 4 players will have more than 45 points. To go even further than that, only 53 NHL players had more than 60 points, or less than 2 per team.
To say that ANY 2nd line player is expected to have be in the 60-45 point range is simply not true. The fact of the matter is a 1st line player is expected to be 50 or more(the top 90 forwards in the NHL) with 2nd line players expected to be between 30-50(90-180 top forwards in the NHL).
I know not every player is there for their offence, however when you are considering a Paul Kariya, who is obviously is an offensive player, his 43 points last season as a 35 yr old put him as the 127th ranked scoring forward. Also, considering the other players in that range of scoring (Versteeg, Hartnell, Bertuzzi, Frolik, Vrbata, Boyes, Handzus to name a few), he is in the top teir of 2nd line players in the NHL today.
By no means do I think he can produce like he did 5-8 years ago. However, he would be a solid pick up to shore up Anaheim's top 6 group of Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, Selanne, and Koivu but also depth into the 3rd line if needed with guys like Lupul and Blake. Furthermore, depending on the type of draft you are in, as long as it's not a keeper draft, Kariya in a late round 40+ point player is a fine pick. The risk with him is not if he still has the chops to score, the question is and always has been his health. |
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 10:52:02
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Well, that's all fine and dandy Beans, but I also think that the league is so watered down now, that it is nearly impossible to have true first and second line players fill out a squad for every club. To put it another way, I am really referring to any team that wishes to be a playoff team, say, or even a contender.
Coming from you, it sounds strange that 43 points is enough for a second liner, and 60 points enough for a first liner . . . because I remember all our conversations we have had about teams such as the Leafs.
I'll put it this way: On my COMPETETIVE team, I want my second liners to be 45 points or greater, OOOOOOOORRR (you forgot this one in your rebuttal) BRING SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO THE TABLE - very good defence, great checker, big body/toughness while putting up more than 35 points.
I think many, if not most GMs would feel the same way, although it wouldn't be stated as such in that way. And with young talent waiting in the wings in Anaheim, my guess is Kariya has a good chance to be a bust, unless he finds some offensive majic while avoiding injury.
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 13:04:53
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All I was saying, Mr. Slozo, was that 60-45 points is the high end for 2nd line players, condenders or not. In fact, just 1 team in the NHL last season (Vancouver) with enough forwards with 45 or more points to fill a 1st and 2nd line. I do agree that competative teams usually have 2nd line scoring depth, but not many have 45+ point players through their 2nd line.
Considering that 18 teams in the NHL have 4 or fewer 45+ point scorers, it is a luxury to have more than 1-2nd line player producing at more than 1/2 per game.
Don't get me wrong, I agree that you want a player on the 2nd line with more than a little offensive chops. All I am saying is that having a guy on your second line who can get you 45 points is solid. Considering that of the 116 NHL forwards with more than 45 points last season, just 32 of them played less than 18 minutes a game. I would consider anything more than 18 minutes a game to be 1st line minutes.
And you are correct when you bring up my conversations with the Leafs. But you are now bringing up one of two teams that had only one players with more than 45 points. Sadly, the other was Edmonton........
So, I guess the moral of the story is a team does not need more than 4-45+ point scorers to be competative, but they do need more than one!! |
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 15:50:42
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[quote]Originally posted by Guest7924
Apparently the Leafs have sign Eric Belanger...
and Kaberle is a done deal.
Leafs can't confirm the Belanger trade until the Kaberle trade goes through because they have too many players under contract...
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Belanger signed with Washington again 1-yeat deal worth 1.85 million |
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polishexpress
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 17:31:58
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I really hope Burke gets nothing for Kaberle. Why would a team trade for Kaberle if they have to give up a lot for a player that might not resign?
And, guest, I really don't know what you are talking about. |
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irvine
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Posted - 08/13/2010 : 21:31:17
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Thank-you Beans for inserting the numbers for me, that i was alluding to.
I was trying to say just that, as Beans pointed out. The numbers Kariya should produce, while playing not a lot of minutes is equal to that of your average second line players.
He's not being brought in to produce any more than that, as Slozo, you have even agreed to.
Adding Kariya to the lineup would be good for Anaheim, in my opinion. He will bring in leadership and a friendship with Selanne. Making Selanne happy, is a good thing. Selanne obviously wants Kariya there, as all of this is his idea.
Now, add in his 40 or so points, and it's icing on the cake. Anaheim already have offensive producers there. Adding another 40ish points, is just icing really. Especially, if he's averaging low 2nd line minutes, as I'm suspecting he will. He'll play less than most 2nd liners in the NHL, but I also figure, he'll produce similar to the guys playing more.
I really fail to see how adding Kariya, for a very low price, isn't a good thing.
If he does get injured, the Ducks will still be able to fill in his spot. As, the IR will free up his cap room. Allowing another youngster to fill his spot for a while. So, they are not wasting cap room.
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Posted - 08/14/2010 : 07:20:07
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The one thing I can see with Slozo's point is that Anaheim has many 2nd line type players.
It's hard to think that anyone other than Perry, Getlzaf, and Ryan will be on the first line. That means Koivu and Selanne are virtual locks for the 2nd line. However, who takes the final 2nd line spot?? Blake, Lupul, and Sexton are already in line for that job. Add in Kariya and you have a fight on your hands.
That being said, having a 3rd line with of Blake, Lupul, and Sexton wouldn't be too bad of an issue.............. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/14/2010 : 12:17:27
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yah, I like that 3rd line too, plenty of speed and scoring ability. Leafs fans, you can be forgiven for being down on Blake after his (un)performance in TOR, but when he moved to ANA he did have some success (15pts in 26 games). I think he'll have a resurgence in ANA, playing with a much higher calibre of player and having relatively little pressure to produce.
Ultimately, I think the lineup will be built based on chemistry in camp. I agree that the first line looks set - and plenty scary as well I might add, that is a highly skilled and physically large line. The next 6 players (Selanne, Kariya, Koivu, Blake, Sexton, Lupul) will figure into the lineup in some order.
The only thing that group of 6 lacks in general - size. None of them are very big, or very physical players. For that reason, you may see the first line broken up later in the year. |
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Posted - 08/15/2010 : 09:11:13
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No size after the first line.
Which is why I keep hammering home the point that unless Kariya is playing at a pace to get MORE than 40, 45 points playing on the second or third line (doubt it), he won't play out the season. Why? Because I can nearly guarantee one of the other kids with better speed and size can do the same (Belesky). And I maintain that Kariya will fail in a third line role.
But Anaheim has yet to sign him, so it could all be a moot point.
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Posted - 08/16/2010 : 10:28:11
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Nobody mentioned that Ponikarovsky signed with the LA Kings yet?
He should do very, very well there in a secondary role, with a lot less of the "questionable effort", and only a little less offence perhaps. And, he's a lot cheaper.
Heck, the Leafs could have used Poni right now . . . there isn't exactly a huge amount of 20 goal, 50-55 point guys left out there as free agents.
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Posted - 08/16/2010 : 10:54:24
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Nobody mentioned that Ponikarovsky signed with the LA Kings yet?
He should do very, very well there in a secondary role, with a lot less of the "questionable effort", and only a little less offence perhaps. And, he's a lot cheaper.
Heck, the Leafs could have used Poni right now . . . there isn't exactly a huge amount of 20 goal, 50-55 point guys left out there as free agents.
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Ponikarovsky's signing was in fact mentioned a few pages back i believe. Not a lot of comments followed but he could be a good pickup for LA? |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 08/16/2010 : 11:02:54
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there is still a lot of chatter out there regarding Bieksa moving. After Salo went down with his yearly Big Injury, I figured Bieksa was staying put, but maybe not. The Canucks are apparently interested in moving him, and then resigning Mitchell at a cheaper price.
Current rumours revolve around SJ, with Bieksa going for Derek Joslin or Jamie McGinn and SJ's first round next year.
There is also some chatter that Burke's ability to trade Kaberle was thwarted largely due to Bieksa being a more desirable acquisition in the eyes of many GM's - younger and more physical.
I got this off the Canucks board, so take it for what you will. Still, the Bieksa deal talk is just not going away. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 08/16/2010 : 11:44:48
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there is still a lot of chatter out there regarding Bieksa moving. After Salo went down with his yearly Big Injury, I figured Bieksa was staying put, but maybe not. The Canucks are apparently interested in moving him, and then resigning Mitchell at a cheaper price.
Current rumours revolve around SJ, with Bieksa going for Derek Joslin or Jamie McGinn and SJ's first round next year.
There is also some chatter that Burke's ability to trade Kaberle was thwarted largely due to Bieksa being a more desirable acquisition in the eyes of many GM's - younger and more physical.
I got this off the Canucks board, so take it for what you will. Still, the Bieksa deal talk is just not going away.
nuxfan, i'll take it for what it's worth and that's home town fans pimping their guy and having a bias to his worth. Not saying Bieksa's not a good asset and won't become an impact dman, but i really don't see how his possible trade would have affected Kaberles? They play a totally different game and likely any team inquiring about one, would either be interested in both, for different reasons, or one or the other.
As for the Mitchell talk, LA is supposedly close to signing him for 2 years?
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Beans15
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Posted - 08/16/2010 : 11:56:49
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I heard the exact same deal for Bieksa to go to SJ.
However, to say that teams were interested in Bieksa so Kaberle didn't move is a joke. No one in their right mind would compare to the two players. Kaberle is not as physical but that is the only thing Bieksa has over him.
Bottom line, no one was willing to give Burke what he wanted. Period. Good on Burke for standing firm for his expectations, however this is much like the Kessel deal last year. Everyone says it's good now, but wait 12 months. If Kaberle leaves as a UFA for nothing, it will be 2 seasons in a row that TO fans can complain about something their GM did a year earlier. |
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