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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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 Posted - 11/10/2010 : 14:23:26
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Poll Question:
What do you think of the new All-Star format where two team captains will pick teams from a pool of players (determined by fan voting and NHL Office of Hockey Operations)?
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Edited by - spade632 on 11/10/2010 14:31:45
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2010 : 14:46:35
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I really think that this is just another stupid thing that the NHL is doing to attract fans.
1. This means that the team capitains (probably Sid & Ovie) will have to judge players which does not seem right.
2. By ditching the conference vs. conference format, it just makes the all-star game even more meaningless than before.
Is there anything that is still right in the NHL?!?!
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
Edited by - Awesome One on 11/10/2010 14:47:11 |
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1547 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2010 : 15:26:34
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I don't like the allstar game, all I think is I could be watching a good regular season game this weekend though I watch it, I like the skills comp better.
I think, though I don't think they should do this, the only real way of making the game better competition is putting in incentives like the MLB where the winning teams conference gets home advantage during the final, of course in MLB with the 2-3-2 system I would rather lose the game but in the NHL, that is a huge advantage.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 11/10/2010 : 18:22:19
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I always enjoy the all star game, i find it is an excellent shoiwing of the pure talent it takes to play hockey, and i will enjoy very much seeing this years game and espcially see who gets picked in what order,, terrific idea. The game may be meaningless but it entertains me, plus i always loved playing in All Star games when i was in junior and midget,, (6 time all star cough cough)
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Guest0745
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Posted - 11/10/2010 : 18:53:45
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| All I can say is it would suck to be picked last... puts a funny spin on the all star players - "the worst of the best", "the least necessary or wanted player at the pond". |
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Yewcandoit
Rookie
Canada
115 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2010 : 19:15:39
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I think it would be a great idea as long as they choose the right captains.
I would want captains that have been in the league for a while. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 11/10/2010 : 23:06:20
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I don't have a real hate on for the All Star game like a lot of people do. So many complaints about how it means nothing and such but really, look at the other sports and compare.
Football has often been considered the most dull game of the big four sports as far as all star games go. With so much contact in the sport, the Pro Bowl sees most guys wanna take it easy on each other to avoid injury. It's done after the season ends which helps a bit i suppose, but still, no one goes all out. The option of doing trick plays is there of course and from a fan perspective, that can add to it.
Basketball can have a lot of fancy trick plays, great dunks, etc , but the game can really get old quick with no defense and a back and forth game which can resemble a 5 on 5 game of HORSE? The skills comp and rookie vs sophmore games can be fun. I personally enjoy the 3pt contest and dunk contest more than the game itself.
Baseball, while putting up the home field advantage for the winning league is nice, it's only nice for the handful of teams in the hunt at that point in the season. It makes for a competetive game, but often a boring one which rivals a regular season game? Then again, the sport of baseball would be pretty hard to spice up in an allstar sort of way? Hard to have any fan friendly trick plays and such in a sport like baseball. Like basketball and it's skills comps, i enjoy the home run comp more than the game itself.
Which brings us to hockey. Again, the skills contest can often be more enjoyable but the game itself i don't mind at all. As for the captains picking their own teams, i'd be ok with that? All i heard today on sports talk radio was people saying how bad it would be for the last guy picked? Really? C'mon, they'd have still be voted or picked as an allstar! Would this really be a big deal to a professional athlete? I'd like to think not! I'd hope they're grown up enough to handle being the last one picked after being chosen as one of the 40 or so best in the league!!! |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 11/10/2010 : 23:41:01
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I watch the skills competition, and that is it. I do not like the all star game at all, I find it boring and very non-competitive.
The only way that you could improve the game is to make it meaningful somehow. I recall several years ago that MLB put stakes on the allstar game - the winner of the game would see their league get home field advantage in the world series. That would be an interesting incentive to add to the game. |
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Traveller
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/11/2010 : 08:42:28
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The big problem with having any sort of meaningful stipulation in the NHL All Star game is that hockey, unlike the other major games, has PHYSICAL contact. If the players on the ice were out there trying to win because it could help their home club (ie home ice advantage in the playoffs or something along those lines) the level of physical play would rise and one of the big stars would get hurt. What GM in their right mind would allow Crosby, Ovie, Stamkos et al to go to an otherwise meaningless game. The chance of getting hurt out there already exists and many of the GM's already send their players begrudgingly, knowing that the fans go to see them and they are who they need in the seats.
I think this will be a fun change for the year and would love to see some side betting from the captains that are more about fun and humiliation like skating around during the pregame in a dress or something else like that.
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Oilearl
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/11/2010 : 09:59:53
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Allstar games are to showcase and reward the most talented and popular players around the league for having strong seasons. I love the skills competition and I LMAO when Ovie put the hat and glasses on pure entertainment!! 
I really like the young guns game they really get into it and they too can show their skills without being smothered by the tight checking of regular games.
This new format still rewards the players by honouring them with selection, however I would prefer the game to mean something like home ice advantage for the conference winners.
I will watch this because their could be some funny situations during selection period but in the end the game will still be boring compared to regular games. |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 10:03:28
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Originally posted by Awesome One
I really think that this is just another stupid thing that the NHL is doing to attract fans.
1. This means that the team capitains (probably Sid & Ovie) will have to judge players which does not seem right.
2. By ditching the conference vs. conference format, it just makes the all-star game even more meaningless than before.
Is there anything that is still right in the NHL?!?!
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs".
Despite my points here, I think it will be cool to see how the order of the selections goes.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
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sahis34
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
591 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 12:06:17
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What about the rookie game?
If they have captias there too, it's gotta be hall and seguin as captains
Go OILERS Go!!! |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 12:09:20
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Originally posted by sahis34
What about the rookie game?
If they have captias there too, it's gotta be hall and seguin as captains
Go OILERS Go!!!
The report did not include the criteria for the rookie game.
I wonder what the team names will be?
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 13:03:39
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oh man, I just read the details for the new format. "Captains" picking teams from all over the NHL? How lame... I haven't done that since I was 10 years old playing street hockey...
The *only* redeeming feature of the all star game was at least it was a chance to see how the west stacked up against the east, and now that is gone as well.
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Despite my points here, I think it will be cool to see how the order of the selections goes.
as will a lot of players too... could make for some interesting tensions, I don't recall the last time an active player was asked to effectively rank other players in the NHL based on perceived skill and contributions. How will Malkin feel when Crosby doesn't pick him first? Or how will others feel when Crosby does pick Malkin first? |
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spade632
Rookie
Canada
247 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 20:38:21
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I think the draft at least will be interesting. The game will probably be more of the same - no hitting, no defence, pretty passing, and plenty of goals.
The draft idea appeals to me for a few reasons:
1) For all the poolies out there, this is like a real live fantasy draft - will Crosby / Ovechkin / Toews / whoever pick like you? (And be honest, who won't be watching and going "he picked Spezza ahead of Ovechkin? - what?!?")
2) Will the captains pick based on teammates, friends, "enemies," countrymen or something completely different? If there's a captain from the West and one from the East will they stick to their conference?
What if Crosby doesn't pick Malkin (though the way he's playing right now you can see why he wouldn't ) or Ovechkin doesn't pick Green or Backstrom - what will their reaction be? Or, imagine if both Sedins are Captains (of opposing teams).
3) I'm interested in seeing the general order too as far as forwards - defence - goalies goes. Offhand, I'd think that the forwards will go first since the All-Star game is about offence.
Will captains pick strategically for the skills challenge? Will they try to pick for "chemistry?"
4) As for the game itself, it'll be interesting to see if the players picked near the bottom will "step up" their game to show that they deserved to be picked higher than they were. I don't think it's particularly likely that the intensity level will be significantly upped but you never know.
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Off the top of my head those are a few things that come to mind - I think it'll be interesting - at least - to see it unfold.
As far as the Rookie game goes, I think it's been scrapped. Each team will instead select 6 rookies to compete in the Skills competition. |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 20:58:56
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Having the Sedins as capitains on different teams would be awesome!!!!
Pair each with either Crosby or Ovechkin to add a rivalry, and you have yourself a marketing ploy.
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 11/11/2010 : 21:10:10
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quote:
Originally posted by sahis34
What about the rookie game?
If they have captias there too, it's gotta be hall and seguin as captains
Go OILERS Go!!!
No more rookie game. Each "captain" will pick 6 rookies outside of the main team to round out the line ups for the skills competition in place of the rookie game.
Really, I think there are worse ways to picking the team, like letting the fans do it. Anyone remember that tool from Vancouver a few years ago who nearly made the All Star team just because some fans of my favorite team decided to make a joke of it???
The All Star games is a nothing game anyway.
And it's funny how every perceived bad idea is always the "NHL." Didn't this change come from the GM meetings?? Or does Gary Bettman control the GM's too?? |
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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
451 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 21:45:58
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I think it is a Great idea due to it being a wake up call it is not all about the money Hockey can be played the same way it is at school's.
The Monkey is me |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 21:48:20
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nyone remember that tool from Vancouver a few years ago who nearly made the All Star team just because some fans of my favorite team decided to make a joke of it???
Ah, the Rory Fitzpatrick scandal...good times, good times. Allowing the fans to pick players is as good as any system. However, allowing fans to vote as many times as they wanted was stupid, which the Rory fiasco exposed. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2010 : 10:29:00
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Originally posted by Beans15
And it's funny how every perceived bad idea is always the "NHL." Didn't this change come from the GM meetings?? Or does Gary Bettman control the GM's too??
C'mon Beans, you know that Bettman runs it all! NHL, all the teams, the NHLPA, White House, etc. Heck, i think he might even be "Admin" here at PUH? |
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irvine
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1315 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2010 : 16:24:36
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I recall proposing this exact format of selecting the All-Star game, sometime last year on a post here on PUH.
I guess I got my wish!
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