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ryan93
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 Posted - 02/05/2011 : 15:17:28
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| If the Pens look to add a forward, assuming Sidney Crosby is going to be able to come back this season, then maybe they try add a winger. BUT, in if they are trying to a short term replacement to try help fill the void left by the Malkin injury, how about a guy like Jason Arnott? |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/05/2011 : 16:22:29
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PC..... i know what you're saying, i think? You mean to say that if Kaberle is not dealt, BB still has the cap space he clears once Kaberle is a free agent, correct?
If this is what you're getting at that's great, but when you have an asset, which Kaberle still is, why not at least get a pick or two for him???
Ryan, Arnott's not a bad suggestion, but i think they'll try to get someone a little higher profile than him. Pretty much NO chance they replace Malkin's offense, but if they let Staal move up to the #2 spot, they're still pretty strong, except surely they'll want a nice winger for Crosby now???
Think there's any chance they'd be interested in Gagne? Wonder if TB is willing to deal him and if they'd deal him to Pitts?
What about Milan Hejduk? With Colorado struggling right now, they're playing their way outta the playoffs. If they find themselves still in trouble by the end of the month, Milan Hejduk could possibly be moved? Surely Crosby would like a goal scorer like him to play alongside with?
That's just looking at a few guys who are UFA. No telling who's available from teams out of the playoffs? How about Huselius in CBJ? Not sure what his contract status looks like right now?
Regardless, don't be surprised to see Pitts make some sort of move! |
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Porkchop73
PickupHockey Pro
640 Posts |
Posted - 02/05/2011 : 17:17:42
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Originally posted by Alex116
PC..... i know what you're saying, i think? You mean to say that if Kaberle is not dealt, BB still has the cap space he clears once Kaberle is a free agent, correct?
If this is what you're getting at that's great, but when you have an asset, which Kaberle still is, why not at least get a pick or two for him???
Exactly what I am saying but I am not just refering to Kaberle. It could be any UFA. Although this thread somehow seems centered around Kabby so I somewhat used his situation.
Depending on the picks or players offered it may be better to take picks. But IMO if you are freeing up 5mil and have 3mil or 4mil of space already available you may be able to get an impact player that you do not have to wait to develop. This could be better than the picks or players offered in any deal. It all depends on what is available when you are ready to deal.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 01:29:05
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PC....i think i get what you're saying. Basically, there's a risk in taking a guy under salary because of the cap. Therefore, unless you're just getting draft picks, or the oh so famous "future considerations", you're taking the risk that the player you get may or may not pan out and therefore take up "cap space"?
Makes sense....if i understand it correctly? |
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Porkchop73
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 05:30:22
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Originally posted by Alex116
PC....i think i get what you're saying. Basically, there's a risk in taking a guy under salary because of the cap. Therefore, unless you're just getting draft picks, or the oh so famous "future considerations", you're taking the risk that the player you get may or may not pan out and therefore take up "cap space"?
Makes sense....if i understand it correctly?
Not quite Alex, what I am saying is the cap space created is the asset gained if a potential UFA is not dealt before July.
Lets take Bryan McCabe for instance. He will be UFA come July. If he is not traded for "picks" by the TDL at the end of Feb then the panthers are stuck with him until July unless they resign him. If he walks from the panthers and signs elsewhere the idea out there is that the Panthers got nothing in return. But in reality the Panthers just freed up 5.7mil of cap space which I consider a better asset then picking up a 3rd round or 2nd round pick. IMO in the cap world, cap space is just as valuable of asset as players or picks in some situations. |
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Leafs81
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 07:06:25
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Originally posted by Sensfan101
With Malkin on Injured reserve the Pens have some cap room and will probabely be in the market for a forward. Any guesses who?
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky
I would also look for a top six winger, And I think Brad Boyes would fit the bill maybe. he could score a lot of goals beside Crosby. |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
996 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2011 : 08:40:25
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| Yes, but if the Panthers were to trade McCabe for draft picks...they're still going to free up the $5.7 million in cap space, but also get draft picks to boot. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 09:46:14
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Originally posted by ryan93
Yes, but if the Panthers were to trade McCabe for draft picks...they're still going to free up the $5.7 million in cap space, but also get draft picks to boot.
Exactly what i was getting at......
PC, do you see what we're saying? If McCabe remains a Panther till July, they get cap space this summer. If they trade him at the deadline for a pick or two, they not only get the draft picks, they get the cap space AT THE DEADLINE!
Either you're missing something here, or i am completely in the dark about what you're saying???? |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 09:53:38
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| but - what does cap space at the deadline do for a team like FLA? Unless they think they're going to make a run at a playoff spot, they have no need for cap space until July 1. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 10:19:49
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Originally posted by nuxfan
but - what does cap space at the deadline do for a team like FLA? Unless they think they're going to make a run at a playoff spot, they have no need for cap space until July 1.
I know the space does nothing for them, i'm just trying to make a point that keeping a guy till he's free agent and not getting anything for him free's up the same cap space does it not?
Sorry guys, maybe my mind isn't working properly here and i'm out in left field or something? I must be missing something???? |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 11:17:07
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Alex, you're correct - I just don't think that it matters. I'm not sure who's point is who's anymore
What are TOR or FLA going to do with freed up cap space at the deadline? They aren't currently in contention (although FLA has an outside chance I suppose), so they don't need the space to get someone new. Anyone they sign now or until the end of the year doesn't count on this year's cap. There is absolutely no advantage, CAP WISE, to them trading away players now vs the summer.
The advantage to trading Kaberle, or McCabe away now, is to get prospects. That cap freedom is going to be there eventually, I'm sure neither team is going to resign their respective player - so no matter what, they'll have cap room come July 1. The question is, do they get something for that player, or do they let them walk for nothing?
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Porkchop73
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 11:58:35
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OK gentlemen, I realize that cap space is there regardless if the UFA gets traded for picks by the deadline or if they wait until July.
My point is simple and I can see where I did not state this clearly earlier. IMO the team does not get nothing in return for a UFA if they can't move him at the TDL and he walks in July. They still free up the cap space and I view that cap space as still having an asset even though the player walked without getting players or picks. In other words, the team still gets something. Before the cap era, it was essential to get picks or players for a UFA because some teams could spend whatever they wanted anyways. Now, with the cap, cap room becomes a valuable asset especially for team up against the cap limit.
I am not saying teams shouldn't try to get some picks or players to top it off, I am only saying that the cap space (in some cases) is more important.
For instance, Dallas has nothing to lose this year by not trading Richards at the TDL, they are legitimate contenders this year and should hang on to him because lets face it, Dallas would not be much of a contender without him. Now if they are unable to resign him by July then at least they still get 7mil in cap space and still gave themselves at chance at getting to the cup this year.
However if we go back to Kaberle, it makes more sense for the Leafs to try and get something by the TDL for him and they still free up the cap space.
Does it make sense now! |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 12:30:40
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Porkchop - you are factually correct, but I still think you're looking at it from the wrong angle, at least for a team like TOR
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I am not saying teams shouldn't try to get some picks or players to top it off, I am only saying that the cap space (in some cases) is more important.
Not to a team like TOR, or FLA - as I said, if they are packing it in for the season, what does cap space now do for them? How is that an asset for a team out of the playoffs at this point in the season?
The only reason cap space is important, at this point in the year, is if you're going to trade for and add a high-priced asset. If you're not a buyer at the deadline, then it doesn't matter how much cap space you have until July.
Saying you get cap space for a player like Kaberle is moot - you're guaranteed to get it in the summer anyway, and anything you get now is useless.
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For instance, Dallas has nothing to lose this year by not trading Richards at the TDL, they are legitimate contenders this year and should hang on to him because lets face it, Dallas would not be much of a contender without him. Now if they are unable to resign him by July then at least they still get 7mil in cap space and still gave themselves at chance at getting to the cup this year.
DAL is a great example of a team that would benefit from your scenario. They are contenders this year, and in theory, if they were to trade away Richards because they don't think they can resign him in the offseason, they would take advantage of that cap space to grab someone else, to make that push to the post-season.
I don't think that's going to happen mind you - I'm not sure what DAL could add at the deadline to make up for the loss of Richards, and a long playoff push might be what it takes to convince Richards to sign in the offseason - but if something like that were to happen, DAL would be a team that would be able to take advantage of cap space right now.
PIT is another example, with Malkin down and his salary on LITR, they now have the cap ability to sign one or two solid assets for a playoff push. |
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Porkchop73
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 13:06:20
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My head hurts now and the horse still won't drink the water.
Hey Nuxfan, I am typing slower now so you can read it at a pace that maybe you actually see what I posted.
I quote myself here....."However if we go back to Kaberle, it makes more sense for the Leafs to try and get something by the TDL for him and they still free up the cap space. "
Holy Yonkers Nuxfan me thinks I already got it correct about Toronto and............ hang on me is rereading your post.................just a couple of more seconds because I want to make sure me gets it............................yep, we said the same thing.
Also, I was only using McCabe as an example because he will be a UFA. I could have used any other UFA as well.
I don't know how many times I have say "in some cases' or "it depends on whats available".
I guess I should not use "IMO" anymore because Nuxfan thinks I am not allowed to have one.
Wait........my 6 yr old just confirmed my opinion was the same as what Nuxfan was saying only that Nuxfan was saying I was wrong. Does that make Nuxfan wrong too? Hmmmmm, just a thought! |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 16:20:16
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Oh, hey porkchop, thanks for clarifying. So, what you're saying is that sometimes its a good idea to trade a UFA at the deadline, but sometimes its OK to hang onto them, and it depends on the UFA and the situation of the team trading the UFA and picking up the UFA. Thanks for the "clarity".
I guess my confusion came from your comments such as:
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But in reality the Panthers just freed up 5.7mil of cap space which I consider a better asset then picking up a 3rd round or 2nd round pick
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IMO the team does not get nothing in return for a UFA if they can't move him at the TDL and he walks in July. They still free up the cap space and I view that cap space as still having an asset even though the player walked without getting players or picks
that you thought it was a good organizational move to hang onto UFA's that you have no chance of resigning, when you're not in a playoff hunt. Your McCabe example was a good one, both FLA and TOR are in the same situations with their pending UFA dmen. Neither one of them gain anything by hanging onto their respective players past the deadline, as its clear that both will likely walk come July 1. From your last comment, it would appear that you at least think getting something for Kaberle (other than cap space) would be a good thing, so perhaps we are writing the same thing in different words. |
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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 17:40:52
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Kessel and Kaberle
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Yandle 1st round draft pick 2012 4th round 2011
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful |
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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/06/2011 : 17:42:41
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5o Chicago Halak
to St Louis Hossa (extra)
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful |
Edited by - Utemin on 02/06/2011 17:43:44 |
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T-RAV
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 03:17:54
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I have a good idea... I call it the "CONDITIONAL" pick.
If I were shopping Kaberle I would look at making a deal like say..."if he DOESN'T sign with you for next yr he is equal to a 3rd round pick, if he DOES sign with you for next yr, he is worth a second round pick"
You see how I did that? pretty clever eh? Maybe I should peddle my ideas to the NHL...or maybe everyone else already knows about this except for PUH poolies.
I don't want anyone to get their panties in a bunch over this so...
Just to clarify...Leafs fans, I am not saying Kaberle is only worth a 3rd round pick.
And everyone else, I am not saying Kaberle is WORTH a 3rd round pick(or second) This is simply food for thought.
Some of you guys get so angry arguing your point that you completely forget that NONE OF IT MATTERS. Take other peoples opinions as just that. And do we really need to call each other names?? How will we ever survive if we are always at each others throats??
Peace and Respect
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 04:30:18
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Originally posted by Utemin
5o Chicago Halak
to St Louis Hossa (extra)
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful
Crawford has one of the best GAA's in the league why is chicago looking for a goalie again??
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 04:47:22
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Originally posted by Beans15
Alright, I would agree that the term Pylon might be a bit harsh. However, I don't recall Kaberle being one of the Leafs top penalty killers is he? So, if he is not a PK guy on one of the worst defensive teams in the NHL, is it not fair to say that defense is not his strong suit??
Much like a Lubomir Visnovsky, he's simply an offensive guy. No harm in that. It is what it is.
Finally, I still find it interesting in a heated debate about the worth of a players like Kaberle at the deadline, still no opinion from Mr Leafs. Nothing. No idea other than will a team overpay.
Slozo, what would an overpay for Kaberle look like???
A high (top 5) first rounder and a prospect would be an overpayment. A low first rounder and decent position player would be an overpayment. A young top 6 forward would be an overpayment.
I think a fair payment - for a good contending team, even if it is just as a rental for the playoffs - is a mid to low first rounder, or a high second rounder with a decent prospect, or a very young, potential top 6 guy in the minors.
Guys like Kaberle do not grow on trees, and a contender should HAVE to pay decent value to get him. That doesn't necessarily mean they will . . . it's just my humble opinion.
And that is all I will say on Kaberle for now, thank-you, unless I get a real tip on an upcoming trade. 
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ToXXiK1
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Canada
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 04:57:22
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Well it's official, Savard is done for the season. What do you guys think the Bruins can pick up?
"Hockey is a man's game. The team with the most real men wins.” - Brian Burke |
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 05:44:09
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The centers are dropping like flies, and two very strong contenders - the Pens (Malkin) and the Bruins (Savard) have lost a major part of their offence.
How hard do these teams shop for a center, or at the very least, a serviceable top 6 forward? What bottom feeders have a player of worth to give up, and when the situation is desperate (as in Pittsburgh's case, I'd say) how much are they willing to overpay?
I wonder . . . will Toronto get a good offer for Versteeg? Will Edmonton get a good offer for Hemsky? Are any of the Devils moving (Arnott, Rolston, Parise, Zajac)? Would FLorida give up Weiss for the right offer? Would the Islanders consider moving one of their young guns?
I think all these players are potential trades that could happen for these contenders in need of an offensive replacement. But for now, it really seems pretty quiet . . . whether it is before the storm or not remains to be seen.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 10:37:02
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I think the Pens will be shopping bigtime for any top-6 forward, and probably more than one. Crosby is still not working out, and word is that he won't be back until March at the earliest. How long can the Pens go without Malkin and Crosby?
BOS, I'm not sure - they have actually done quite well without Savard in the lineup (earlier this year, and so far since he went down). Do they really think they need to replace him? They're pretty deep down centre with Krejci, Bergeron, Seguin.
NJ is an interesting one - a month ago they looked to be sure sellers, but they seem to have regained their abilities, so maybe they will not completely dismantle. I think they'd get rid of Rolston if any offer came along (and I mean ANY offer), if only to free up the 5M his salary carries to make some room for Parise. Zajac, I think, is staying.
Weiss is an interesting one, they were talking about him on hotstove, apparently no one anticipated him being available. FLA is an odd team - to get good, they actually have to hold on to a couple of their promising players, yet they don't seem to. |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 11:03:18
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| Bruins don't need to replace Savard, but, they could use a puck mover on the blueline. Maybe McCabe? |
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Awesome One
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Canada
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Posted - 02/07/2011 : 14:41:06
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Okay, (first real prediction since coming back)
To Toronto/Ottawa: Smith or Ellis (depends on who they want backing Roloson)
To Tampa: Beauchemin/Phillips
There was once a license plate in Toronto that abbreviated "Go Leafs" it read "Golfs". |
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T-RAV
Top Prospect
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 06:04:09
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Originally posted by Awesome One
Okay, (first real prediction since coming back)
To Toronto/Ottawa: Smith or Ellis (depends on who they want backing Roloson)
To Tampa: Beauchemin/Phillips
I get why Tampa might want Beauchemin, but why on earth would Toronto want another second string goalie? We have plenty. Ottawa may be able to use this, but Toronto will most likely be looking for a big forward (preferably a Centreman)
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 10:11:59
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I am absolutely gobsmacked and how delusional Leaf fans are. Seriously, if Kaberle could have fetched a single 1st round pick and a prospect in the offseason Burke would have dropped him like a hot potato. How is it even fathomable that it would be considered even and remote possibility at the deadline. What Leaf fans consider an equitable trade of a 2nd round pick and a top 6 prospect is laughable.
The saddest thing about this is that I doubt anyone will be proven right or wrong. Burke is far too stubborn to move Kaberle and show that he made a mistake. So Kaberle leaving in July for nothing is the most likely outcome and none of us will the bragging or eating crow.
What I can't seem to get past nor have any Leaf fans comments on is that a player with a very similar skill set(Wisnewksi) who is also a UFA at the end of the year and is 4 years younger was recently traded for a single, 2nd round pick. If Wisnewski will move for that, why do the blue tinted viewing Leaf nation figure that GM's will just bend over and take it for Kaberle?? |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 11:05:11
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Originally posted by nuxfan
I think the Pens will be shopping bigtime for any top-6 forward, and probably more than one. Crosby is still not working out, and word is that he won't be back until March at the earliest. How long can the Pens go without Malkin and Crosby?
BOS, I'm not sure - they have actually done quite well without Savard in the lineup (earlier this year, and so far since he went down). Do they really think they need to replace him? They're pretty deep down centre with Krejci, Bergeron, Seguin.
NJ is an interesting one - a month ago they looked to be sure sellers, but they seem to have regained their abilities, so maybe they will not completely dismantle. I think they'd get rid of Rolston if any offer came along (and I mean ANY offer), if only to free up the 5M his salary carries to make some room for Parise. Zajac, I think, is staying.
Weiss is an interesting one, they were talking about him on hotstove, apparently no one anticipated him being available. FLA is an odd team - to get good, they actually have to hold on to a couple of their promising players, yet they don't seem to.
I wonder if there'd be any takers for Rolston now? He was something like 14 points in his last 11 games. I've seen him play twice recently, and he looked really good. It still might be hard to move him though with another year @ $5 million left on his contract, unless of course the Devils take on some salary in return. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 14:07:04
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| I don't think 11 games is going to lure some team into getting Rolston for the next year @ 5M, but you can always hope I suppse. That contract sucks, you can't even bury it in the minors. I'm sure NJ would move him for a bag of pucks if they could... |
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 20:53:50
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Just got a tweet from Dregger that says Kabby is a Bruin shortly for T.O.'s 1st pick in return.... Stay tuned.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 21:36:28
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| really? I see nothing about it in Dredger's tweet history... |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 02/08/2011 : 22:24:55
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| I did read that the Bruins are very interested in Kaberle, but that the asking price was TOR's first round pick back - and that it was too steep. |
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ToXXiK1
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Canada
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 03:26:38
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| Dregger's tweet I got last night was "Boston very intersted in Kabby and are willing to cough up Toronto's first", ball was in BB court. Still to be confirmed of course. If this is remotely true, it'd what BB wanted, a 1st rounder and it doesn't get much better than a lottery pick. |
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T-RAV
Top Prospect
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 05:51:20
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I heard this rumor on SportsCentre this morning. I don't really know how much truth there is to this yet, until it's confirmed or denied.
You know the media. They ask a lot of questions and get ambiguous answers, then fabricate the rest to fit their situation.
For example, I saw a clip on Sportsnet where they interviewed Chiarelli and asked him if he would give up his draft pick from Toronto to make a trade. He said, and I para-phrase, he would consider it, as they have a good chunk of prospects. And of course, everyone knows Burke is shopping Kaberle. So it is completely conceivable that the media slams these together and speculates on it for ten minutes to fill their hour slot, or what have you.
That said, I personally, along with most Leafs fans (I would think), would be very happy with this trade, and it would calm a lot of hostility in Toronto.
However, Realistically, I do not see this trade happening "as is" without Toronto adding more to the package.
"If we succumb to a dream world, then we will wake up to a nightmare" - Jimmy Carter
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 07:01:40
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Let's not get too excited or make things into things they are not. I found this tweet from Dreger dated Feb 8th. Check out the bolded area.
•Darren Dreger of TSN: The Penguins could be looking for a top 6 forward, preferably a center with Malkin don’t for the year, and questions surrounding Crosby. Cap number is not an issue, and they could look at players like Stephen Weiss or Devin Setoguchi as examples. It might take Alex Goligoski in a deal to get Setoguchi. Jason Arnott could draw some interest. The Bruins are still interested in Tomas Kaberle but it’s hard to see them paying a premium to the Leafs. Chiarelli could look at Eric Brewer, Chris Phillips, Joe Corvo and Joni Pitkanen. With the uncertainty of Dallas ownership it doesn’t look like they’ll get a deal done before the trade deadline, but it’s unlikely Brad Richards will get moved. But there is the small possibility that Dallas could look to move him, and he might consider, especially if an extension was in place.
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ToXXiK1
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Canada
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 08:26:05
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| I'll be happy if it's just a rumour Beans, because, a 1st (possibly lottery pick) for Kaberle is a bad deal, Schenn and someone maybe. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 09:13:12
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If it's straight up, Kaberle for their #1 pick back to them i will:
1. eat all the crow served by the rest of you
2. assume BB somehow found pics of Chiarelli and a farm animal
3. cheer for the Leafs (only when they play the Bruins )
4. expect the Canucks to trade Rick Rypien in return for P. Datsyuk
Can you tell i don't see this happening, even if Boston agrees to a long term deal in advance with Kaberle! |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 09:27:30
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Um, hard to tell what you're trying to say here Alex, canya be more specific please?  |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 09:40:05
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Toronto has traded Beauchemin to Anaheim for Lupul, Gardiner & conditional 4 pick 2013.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=353098
Also read this:
" Tons of speculation Burke isn't done. Gustavsson pulled when up 7-1. " Anyone know if this happened? |
Edited by - ToXXiK1 on 02/09/2011 10:27:16 |
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Posted - 02/09/2011 : 10:53:17
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quote:
Originally posted by ToXXiK1
Toronto has traded Beauchemin to Anaheim for Lupul, Gardiner & conditional 4 pick 2013.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=353098
Also read this:
" Tons of speculation Burke isn't done. Gustavsson pulled when up 7-1. " Anyone know if this happened?
Gustavsson was pulled from the Marlies game due to health reasons - trainer stated that it was precautionary due to an elevated heart rate.
That doesn't seem like a fib to cover up an upcomign trade, so looks like Gustavsson is still a Leaf - hope the kid is ok.
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Trade Deadline 2011 - Predictions 
