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 Posted - 02/22/2011 : 08:34:17
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Stastny's 6.6 isn't too expensive for anyone to take, but even a team like Toronto with a bit of cap room would have to get rid of a bit of salary, either in the trade going out or some other way.
This is the key to Toronto being a contender for Stastny IF - and it's a big if at this point, as I have heard no tangible backing to this rumour yet - he is potentially being shopped. Toronto has a wheeling/dealing GM; they have cap room; they need a top forward/centre.
And remember what part a higher salaried player plays in trades, and how it diminishes their worth . . . we have seen many a trade happen where it seems like someone underpaid for a player who had a salary deemed to be very high. Look at how Lupul - a decent second liner - was included in a trade going to Toronto, for instance, with a very good prospect for Beachemin. In terms of value at this time, most would have pegged only the prospect as a good, fair return for Beachemin . . . Lupul is just a salary dump, in retrospect.
The Leafs have 5.1 mil in cap space currently (from capgeek.com), so a salary player would also have to go Colorado's way to work, is my guess.
Slozo's Trade Suggestion (listen up, Burkie!):
Bozak, a first rounder (the highest one the Leafs have) and a second rounder to the Avalanche.
Stastny to the Leafs
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nuxfan
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 09:38:29
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Seguin is getting limited ice time due to Julien not putting any faith in him
And also, BOS is loaded at centre - Krejci, Bergeron, (once was) Savard. We have the same problem in VAN with Hodgson - he's a natural centre, but where do you fit him in with Sedin/Kesler/Malhotra up the middle on your first 3 lines? Tough position to be in, I can see Boston's dilema.
Which is why I wonder why they'd be looking to acquire yet another centre in Richards - unless one was going the other way. Perhaps an upgrade - Richards for Krejci++. Are BOS happy with the centres that they have?
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This is the key to Toronto being a contender for Stastny IF - and it's a big if at this point, as I have heard no tangible backing to this rumour yet - he is potentially being shopped. Toronto has a wheeling/dealing GM; they have cap room; they need a top forward/centre.
If Statsny becomes available, I don't see how TOR is not interested big time - he is exactly what they need. But Beans raised a very good point - can TOR put together a package that is interesting to COL and better than other clubs, without moving a player that he wants to keep?
I can't see your trade suggestion being enough. You may not see much of COL because they're in the west, but Statsny is one of the top 20 centres in the entire NHL right now. If its true that LA is offering Berneir, Jack Johnston and Stoll for Statsny+Galiardi, Burke would probably have to throw in one of Schenn or Kessel, on top of your offer, to have a chance. |
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ryan93
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 12:51:00
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Slozo...if the Leafs have $5.5 million in cap room, then they'd have all kinds of room to add Stastny. The season is about 3/4's over, so Stastny wouldn't count as a $6.6 million cap hit against the Leafs this season, instead his cap hit would only be in the $1.6 range.
There are plenty of teams that would have the space to take on a guy like Stastny. I'm obviously must familar with the Rangers, so i'll use them as an example. I haven't looked into the numbers myself, but if what i heard on tv the other day is correct they have just over $8 million in cap space right now, in large part due to money they've saved this season due to long term injuries & the trading of Michal Rozsival. |
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Posted - 02/22/2011 : 13:04:07
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Slozo, you completely missed the COL wants a franchise goalie as part of the equation. Secondly, what would COL want with Bozak?? They already have 5 centres in their line up and they won't trade one great one for an well below average one.
If TO is in the race, it will need to include Schenn and Reimer at least. And as Burke has said Schenn will be there as long as he is there, TO is out of the race.
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ToeDrag
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 15:40:36
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A friend of mine was saying he heard a rumor that Brad Richards' agent was in talks with the Bruins. I have no idea if this is true or not but why not speculate :P
The deal would most likely involve Krejci as they would need to get rid of a centre, but who else??
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 15:44:47
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Originally posted by ToeDrag
A friend of mine was saying he heard a rumor that Brad Richards' agent was in talks with the Bruins. I have no idea if this is true or not but why not speculate :P
The deal would most likely involve Krejci as they would need to get rid of a centre, but who else??
"I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out"
Really?
GOD I HOPE THAT HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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nuxfan
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 16:28:47
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is BOS just collecting concussed centres? They would lead the league in that category...
Its a tough injury for Richards to have, and any acquiring team would need to be wary that Richards may indeed not play again this season. |
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Posted - 02/23/2011 : 16:53:16
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is BOS just collecting concussed centres? They would lead the league in that category...
Its a tough injury for Richards to have, and any acquiring team would need to be wary that Richards may indeed not play again this season.
No kidding! If i'm running a team "in the hunt", i don't take a chance like this at all! He could very well be a rental and not play a single game for you! THAT, would be a HUGE overpayment! |
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 06:29:46
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Beans, in regards to Stastny:
If Colorado is looking for a "franchise goaltender", do you mean to include Reimer in that discussion because you think Reimer is a franchise goaltender?
Because right now, I wouldn't be able to agree with that. It's REAL early days, and we have seen so many young goalies fall off the face of the earth, even after a very successful full season.
So, I guess you are saying Colorado wants Luongo, or maybe Thomas/Rask, or Ryan Miller? Who is on your list of franchise goaltenders at this time?
I think that, even if Colorado IS looking for a franchise goalie, when they realise the reality of the situation, and see that even so-so prospects like Bernier will only be dealt for a very high value coming back . . . that they will accept a much more "prospect" rated goalie coming to them.
I think people will be surprised if Stastny is dealt, at what is going back.
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 10:45:02
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Just in on Yahoo sports:
Apparently, Dallas Stars GM and Rangers GM Sather had a talk about Brad Richards . . . and it was leaked afterward that to get Richards, Dallas would be asking for Marc Staal, Brandon Dubinsky, and Derek Stepan.
ouch.
With Richards still on IR with the concussion . . . it really looks as if this will not happen.
Good luck in the trade negotiations for the rest of the year, Dallas . . .
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 10:47:51
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| I just read that on Yahoo as well Slozo. Ridiculous asking price for a rental!!! Good luck Mr. Nieuwendyk, on getting anything close to that. Hopefully for him, he can find a way to resign him cuz he's not getting that package anytime soon!!! |
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 10:49:39
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Wow! And we were all talking about the amount moving in the Stastny deal!!
If signed long term it's one thing. But for a rental??? Slats would have to have assurances that Richards is going to resign for a favorable deal. Even with that, Staal is a guy would build a defense around.
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 11:19:58
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Wow! And we were all talking about the amount moving in the Stastny deal!!
If signed long term it's one thing. But for a rental??? Slats would have to have assurances that Richards is going to resign for a favorable deal. Even with that, Staal is a guy would build a defense around.
Big asking price.
Beans, do you know how that works? Can Slats get an agreement from Richards in advance and if so, is it strictly a verbal agreement and he would have to take a chance that Richards keeps his word? Or can they do a sign and trade type deal?
I agree, that's the only way this could happen and it'd be a steep price still however, Richards is def a top center in the league! |
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 11:23:22
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ryan93
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 12:11:43
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I'm the biggest Brad Richards fan you'll find, have been since his minor hockey days. Having Richards on NYR would be a dream come true...but as a Rangers fan, even if Richards was signed long term, no way would i even consider trading away that much for him. Marc Staal is one of the best defensemen in the game today, he'd be an absolute untouchable if i was GM. Brandon Dubinsky is a very good all-around player, but there is no denying Richards would be an upgrade at the C position. Derek Stepan is a solid young player, definitely will be a top 6 forward, but not sure yet if he'll develop into a PPG type of player.
That rumored package is WAY too steep. You're talking about 3 young roster players that are all part of the Rangers core moving forward. I would be willing to part with Michael Del Zotto, but certainly not Marc Staal. If Slats ever pulled the trigger on that one, it'd be a step backwards for a Rangers franchise that has finally been doing it right in recent years. |
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Posted - 02/24/2011 : 14:31:16
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Wow! And we were all talking about the amount moving in the Stastny deal!!
If signed long term it's one thing. But for a rental??? Slats would have to have assurances that Richards is going to resign for a favorable deal. Even with that, Staal is a guy would build a defense around.
Big asking price.
Beans, do you know how that works? Can Slats get an agreement from Richards in advance and if so, is it strictly a verbal agreement and he would have to take a chance that Richards keeps his word? Or can they do a sign and trade type deal?
I agree, that's the only way this could happen and it'd be a steep price still however, Richards is def a top center in the league!
What is within the Rules and what actually happens is not always they same thing. There is a fine line between on tampering, however there is something of a blind eye to discussions with agents in and around a trade.
Toxx, no player can 'talk' to any team other than who he is contracted to. Even with permission of the team. That is why you see things like the rights of players getting trade for draft picks like Hamhuis last year.
Of course there can not be a deal in place before the trade, but you bet your junk that when a deal like this happens there are certain assurances that the player is likely to resign. |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 03:41:03
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Originally posted by Beans15
Wow! And we were all talking about the amount moving in the Stastny deal!!
If signed long term it's one thing. But for a rental??? Slats would have to have assurances that Richards is going to resign for a favorable deal. Even with that, Staal is a guy would build a defense around.
Big asking price.
Beans, do you know how that works? Can Slats get an agreement from Richards in advance and if so, is it strictly a verbal agreement and he would have to take a chance that Richards keeps his word? Or can they do a sign and trade type deal?
I agree, that's the only way this could happen and it'd be a steep price still however, Richards is def a top center in the league!
What is within the Rules and what actually happens is not always they same thing. There is a fine line between on tampering, however there is something of a blind eye to discussions with agents in and around a trade.
Toxx, no player can 'talk' to any team other than who he is contracted to. Even with permission of the team. That is why you see things like the rights of players getting trade for draft picks like Hamhuis last year.
Of course there can not be a deal in place before the trade, but you bet your junk that when a deal like this happens there are certain assurances that the player is likely to resign.
Please read the first paragraph stating "permission" to talk to:
http://spectorshockey.net/2011/02/updates-on-brad-richards-and-chris-phillips/ |
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 05:09:14
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Darren Dreger of TSN reports that the Leafs are getting an increased amount of offers for MacArthur, from teams looking to bolster their offence (I'd have to think Pittsburgh was one of them).
Funny thing is . . . the Leafs are one of the hottest teams right now, and suddenly only 4 points out of a playoff spot.
I have a feeling that, with the Leafs where they are as they approach the deadline . . . no major roster player is going to be leaving. I predict that at most, we get a nice piece coming back to us for those first rounders, and quite possibly, nothing more of note happens.
For me, notably absent during the current bevy of trades is Florida. Weiss, Wideman, McCabe . . . all could be valuable pieces on a team going forward.
I wonder aloud now . . . would the Leafs be able to get Weiss for two late first rounders and a second? Hmm.
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Porkchop73
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 05:27:04
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Darren Dreger of TSN reports that the Leafs are getting an increased amount of offers for MacArthur, from teams looking to bolster their offence (I'd have to think Pittsburgh was one of them).
Funny thing is . . . the Leafs are one of the hottest teams right now, and suddenly only 4 points out of a playoff spot.
I have a feeling that, with the Leafs where they are as they approach the deadline . . . no major roster player is going to be leaving. I predict that at most, we get a nice piece coming back to us for those first rounders, and quite possibly, nothing more of note happens.
For me, notably absent during the current bevy of trades is Florida. Weiss, Wideman, McCabe . . . all could be valuable pieces on a team going forward.
I wonder aloud now . . . would the Leafs be able to get Weiss for two late first rounders and a second? Hmm.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
I am sure Burke will make use of those picks, but I think he will wait until Draft day when players values are notoriously less then the asking price for deadline day.
However I am going to be a little cliche and say Burke will do another deal at the deadline "if it makes sense for the Leafs and fits their plan".
They were certainly pushing Liles on SNET last night. But didn't the Leafs just trade a dman in his 30's who is a good puck mover and passer that is known for having some lapses defensively in his own end. I say let the kids develop on D and go after something else, like Statsny........even if Beans thinks the Leafs couldn't package something for him. Beans might be right though. Did I just say that, oh jeeze, I haven't had my coffee yet. |
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i never understood the Leafs logic in past years when they traded young talent for proven but aged veterans. they get one maybe two years of use out of them, don't win the cup, and spend the next 10 years watching as the young talent they traded away develops into a solid hockey player.
i surely hope BB doesn't fall into this same trap with MacArthur. clearly he is a valuable asset to this team. rather then spending the next few days trying to work out the best deal to trade him, why not spend the next few months working on a new contract? he's good stuff. keep him here! |
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 05:48:54
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I agree Porkchop - and I think Burke will not trade MacArthur unless someone offers something foolish (like Stastny, for say MacArthur and one of those firsts and a second. Hmmm!).
Versteeg was a different case . . . he was ok, but not great, and he never really fit into the lineup. He was also small, didn't play terribly gritty while on Toronto, and he had high value for a trade to a deep contender.
MacArthur, on the other hand, is cheap, has fit into our top line, and is a reclamation project which may not net as much as Versteeg did, even with the better numbers. He also plays a gritty, hard-nosed style, and is still relatively young.
So yes, 100%, I'd keep him unless blown out of the water.
And I would stop agreeing with Beans . . . that coffee will start to taste sour!
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ryan93
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 06:32:06
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| I like Weiss, but i certainly wouldn't give up a pair of 1st rounders & a 2nd rounder to get him! |
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 07:17:47
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I like Weiss, but i certainly wouldn't give up a pair of 1st rounders & a 2nd rounder to get him!
So you think Toronto could pry Weiss from Florida with one first rounder and a second rounder perhaps? Even with a minor roster player thrown in, I'd say that would be a sweet deal for Toronto, actually . . . and yet, I am not so sure that Burke wants a guy like Weiss specifically - it was just musing. I think Burke wants a bigger guy, with more high-end potential (and who doesn't?).
McCabe is rumoured to be going to the Rangers, perhaps. Weiss though, I have no idea, and there hasn't been much talk about him at all . . .
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 07:50:23
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I think everyone in Leaf Nation has something to cheer about right now and it's not the 4 pts out of the playoffs. Burke said one of the smartest things I have heard him say maybe ever when he said he is not going to fight for 8th place only to get smashed in the first round. His moves in the past few weeks have shown he is not chasing a pipedream for this year.
If MacArthur is moved it is because his agent and Burke disagreed with his value.
Weiss would be a good fit in TO's plans, but in all this movement of players in the past few weeks the Leafs defense is looking very thin. I like Liles and he would fill the gap made by Kaberle leaving. I think that puck moving defensemen is more important than the 2nd line forward. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 08:26:11
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Very good point about Florida being very quiet so far for a team expected to make some moves. Is the asking price too high for the Fla guys who're up for grabs?
Maybe they'll be the team to make deadline day interesting after all? |
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 08:28:28
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maybe i'm smoking something over here, or perhaps it's because of what i saw last night..........but what 's wrong with Lebda filling in for Kaberle?
in theory he was signed this past summer because BB was expecting to have traded Kaberle before his NTC kicked in again. so now that Kabby's gone, why not use Lebda like you had originally planned?
i think his stats are a litle misguided this year because he never got to play on a regular basis. give him some playing time and see what he can do. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:03:20
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All the talk around here (Van) is about the Canucks really wanting to find a 4th line center they can rely on. Hodgson played under 5 mins the other night and only got 5:03 last night. He doesn't appear to be ready, or at least the coach doesn't appear to be ready to trust him?
Who's out there that the Canucks might be interested in? Has Rob Niedermayer got anything left in the tank? Would he be available? I'm thinking they'd love to have someone with some playoff experience and he certainly would fit the bill? Judging by the following article, he might be available and still have some gas left in him on the right team and in the right role? Remember, he does have BC roots....
http://www.examiner.com/buffalo-sabres-in-buffalo/in-defense-of-rob-niedermayer |
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doublechamp7
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:10:40
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Good point you made about Florida Alex, I thought, how about Cammaleri there? But as you said the asking price may be high for Florida.
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:16:13
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This might be a bit off topic, but does anyone else think it's a little scary that the Canucks have to trade for a 4th line centre?? Is there no one in their system they can trust to cover 5-8 minutes a game??
Seriously, if I am a fan of that team I am scared as that means there is nothing in the tank for the future.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:21:40
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Why would FLA trade away Weiss? He's a very productive forward, under contract for the next 2 years at a reasonable cap hit. The reason that it would be a good trade for TOR is because Weiss is a pretty good player - FLA probably realizes that.
The only 2 players of significance that I can see FLA moving are McCabe and Vokoun - and only if they're sure that they're out of the playoff race. |
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:23:59
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The only 2 players of significance that I can see FLA moving are McCabe and Vokoun - and only if they're sure that they're out of the playoff race.
I can definetly see them moving McCabe, maybe get a good draft pick or prospect or both?
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nuxfan
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:29:28
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This might be a bit off topic, but does anyone else think it's a little scary that the Canucks have to trade for a 4th line centre?? Is there no one in their system they can trust to cover 5-8 minutes a game??
Seriously, if I am a fan of that team I am scared as that means there is nothing in the tank for the future.
All their eggs in one basket??? Scary
Our usual 4th line centre is Rypien, and he plays that position very well. Unfortunately, he doesn't look likely to come back.
I'm not worried about a team that hasn't developed any quality 4th line centres in their system. I recall in our last Rypien thread that you inferred they were a dime a dozen in the NHL - so why would the Canucks bother trying to fill their farm with those players? Trade for one when you need one, for a 4th round or worse pick.
They have been trying to get Glass to assume the role (he's been taking faceoff lessons from Malhotra), and that might work. As Alex said, they've tried Hodgson in that role, but he's not really suited to it. We'll see what MG does leading up to the deadline.
But seriously, I'm plenty happy that its all we need - its like having a race car and only needing a spark plug, as opposed to needing an engine, 3 tires, and a steering wheel. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 09:34:28
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nuxfan....Weiss's name has been thrown around quite a bit and from everything i've heard, he's available, at the right price. Tallon has said, pretty much everyone is available.
Beans...I'm not worried at all. The key here with the Canucks is that they WANT some veteran experience and without messing around with the other 3 lines that are "clicking", the 4th line is the best spot to aquire a guy with those characteristics. The Canucks have played about 7 different guys there, and yes, if they're only playing 6-8 mins a game it shouldn't be a big deal, but are they better off with a rookie (Hodgson) there, or a veteran who's "been there" (playoffs/cup) before (ala Niedermayer)? I believe that the worry here is if they go with Hodgson (or Desbiens or any of the others they've tried) and end up not playing them enough, it tires out the other 3 lines over a cup run. IF they go all the way or even to the conference finals, relying on 3 lines can be a worry. Having a guy (veteran) that they know they can trust might be easier. It's clear that it's a timing thing with this team as it approaches the playoffs. They obviously thought that they'd find their guy during the season (shown by the fact they gave multiple guys the chance there) but with injuries and some being ineffective, it might be wise for them to aquire someone at the deadline. Certainly won't be a blockbuster deal, but for me as a fan, i'm def not worried about our 4th line center looking to the future! |
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ryan93
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 14:57:26
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Alex...i heard rumors that John Madden might be available. Not sure if that's the case or not considering the Wild among the pack of teams tied at 70 points. I heard a couple of rumors that the Hawks might be interested in bringing him back.
He'd be a nice fit centering the Canucks 4th line. He'd bring a wealth of playoff experience (2 Cups with NJ, 1 Cup with CHI), and is only making $1.25 million this season, so with the season approx 75% over, he'd be a very affordable cap hit of just over $300,000. He's a UFA after this season. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 15:03:37
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Alex...i heard rumors that John Madden might be available. Not sure if that's the case or not considering the Wild among the pack of teams tied at 70 points. I heard a couple of rumors that the Hawks might be interested in bringing him back.
He'd be a nice fit centering the Canucks 4th line. He'd bring a wealth of playoff experience (2 Cups with NJ, 1 Cup with CHI), and is only making $1.25 million this season, so with the season approx 75% over, he'd be a very affordable cap hit of just over $300,000. He's a UFA after this season.
Yup, that's a guy they might be interested in. Haven't seen him play much this year but he played a role in last year's run and at minimal minutes, he's the kind of experienced guy they'd likely covet! I'd have no problem with them getting him as long as it doesn't cost to much! |
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doublechamp7
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 15:05:57
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John Madden would be a great addition for the canucks. He was perfect in the role of a 4th line centre for the Hawks last year and that is exactly what the Canucks want.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 16:12:49
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nuxfan....Weiss's name has been thrown around quite a bit and from everything i've heard, he's available, at the right price. Tallon has said, pretty much everyone is available.
OK, fair enough. I think EVERYONE is available at the right price though... . Its tough to see FLA moving Weiss.
Yes, Madden would be the perfect kind of player for the 4th line role. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 16:23:24
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OK, fair enough. I think EVERYONE is available at the right price though... . Its tough to see FLA moving Weiss.
nux....i agree that it's strange to think they'd consider trading a guy who should be part of their rebuild expecially since they have him locked in for a few years at a reasonable salary! However, his name continues to come up. I'm guessing that Tallon will only deal him if there's a big overpayment involved! |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 16:54:10
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I think my fine Canuck bretheren are looking at things through Orca colored glasses. Any team in the NHL can and should be able to fill any 4th line spot with players from the farm. The Canucks have far more than enough leadership and veterens in their line-up that they should not be giving up assets for a 4th line player. It's absurd. 4th line players are a dime a dozen. The AHL is FULL of players like that.
Orca colored glasses might be as askew as blue and white colored glasses!! It appears that copper and blue glasses are the clearest out there. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/25/2011 : 17:26:42
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I see your point Beans, sort of anyway. As it currently stands, they have numerous options at the 4th line center spot. BUT, if they could pick up an experienced guy, why wouldn't they? A guy like Niedermayer or Madden is gonna cost very little but bring not just playoff experiance, but Stanley Cup Finals experience. Off the top of my head, the only guy with a ring on the Canucks would be Samuelsson who i think has just one?
Regardless of whether or not you and i agree that this is the right move for them, i can tell you this much (to your original statement), i'm not in the least worried about having "nothing in the tank for the future"!!! How that statement makes any sense is beyond me when we're discussing a 4th line center who are "a dime a dozen in the AHL"??? |
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Trade Deadline 2011 - Predictions 
