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Alex116
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 Posted - 04/06/2011 : 22:45:51
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Surprised no one has mentioned this hit from last night. Torres is surely going to get suspended and likely miss at least the openner of the Canucks' first round series, and maybe more?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWu2gyZ6XcE
Amazing, these guys still haven't figured it out!!! Torres claims if he didn't throw that hit that he'd "be out of a job" and that Eberle shouldn't have put himself in such a vulnerable position. Eberle claims, and i believe him, that he figured Torres would play the puck, and therefore tried reaching for it, thus putting him in a vulnerable spot. I put far less blame on Eberle in a situation like this than i do the ones into the end boards where guys turn into the boards face first!
I'm gonna predict 3 games as the 1 playoff game will be weighted accordingly. Just my guess......
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 04/06/2011 : 23:30:02
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R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me,
R-E-S-P-E-C-T, take care, TCB!!
In the words of the Queen of Soul, this is what is missing sometimes.
A nothing game standings wise, and instead of playing smart, safe hockey, this instead.
I'm all for hard hitting hockey, but the lack of respect and mutual safety is going to be the cause of these types of hits over and over again.
It surprises me that Torres would take that hit against Eberle, I thought he had more class?, maybe not the right word, than that. I inderstand his ideaology of it being his job to finish his checks, but when the check comes before playing the puck, one probably deserves whatever they get, when the hit becomes dangerous.
Funny thing is, this is borderline clean, IMHO, and I am neck and neck with the other Edmonton lover on the site, in support of the boys. This hit a year ago, is still a highlight reel hit, but for completely different reasons.
Thank goodness Eberle bounced right back up, it could have been worse, and I'll give Torres a little credit for simply running straight through him, with his arm tucked in, or it could have been much worse.
I guess we'll see if the league continues it's mandate with headshots. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 05:40:57
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I agree this is a borderline hit. None the less, the rules are what the rules are and the NHL is clamping down. The problem I have with it is Torres trying to defend his actions. I can even get the finishing the hit thing, but when he said "we were both going for the puck" I laughed out loud. Watch the clip and tell me how many players are going for the puck with one hand on their stick, the other arm tucked ready to hit, and their stick not even touching the ice???
Torres might get a game or two but that's about it. Eberle played very, very limited last night against Calgary and did not look very good. Hmmm???? |
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Alex116
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 06:56:30
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Agreed, there's not excuse here. I had to watch it again, to see if Torres perhaps didn't realize Eberle was going to stretch for the puck and end up low / prone like he was, but that's not the case. He's already slouched over and lower than Torres shoulder as Raffi starts at him.
I still think he's gonna get 3 games, though i don't think he's got a history (does he?) so he may luck out and get a 2 game, pre-playoff rest? |
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 09:26:30
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I'm a Canucks fan and I won't defend Torres.
BUT. What happened to the NHL's new concussion protocol? IF that was such a clear hit to the head, shouldn't Eberle have gone to the dressing room to be properly diagnosis'd?
I know he got up quickly. But isn't the whole point of that protocol that concussion symptons can be harder to spot?
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this??? |
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 09:34:37
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I'm not positive, but I think it reads along the lines of 'if the player exhibits symptoms of a possible concussion'. or something similarly vague, and it states the player is removed from the ice for a minimum of 15 minutes, I think. This is probably why it isn't used automatically, unfortunately.
Please correct me if I'm off, anyone, I am working from memory, I am working from memory, what? |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 09:43:59
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I also think the hit was borderline - most definitely blindside, but I do believe that Torres was not targeting Eberle's head. The last second lunge forward by Eberle lowered his head to a point where Torres's shoulder was going to catch it, and he did. 5 and a game are appropriate, and he might get another game suspension - I don't think he'll miss playoff time.
I also don't agree with his defense of the hit, nor that if he doesn't make that hit he's fired. You don't have to make those hits to keep your job - Torres was doing great in the first half of the year by playing an energy game and potting the occasional goal. Keep doing THAT, and you'll always have a job in the NHL. |
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 10:02:32
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Hmm Elvis...I watched the video again. He gets up slowly, but not overly so.
But I thought the wording was the protocol came into action if a player was hit to the head. The whole "signs of a concussion" thing just leaves the diagnosis with the guys on the bench or the refs again - wasn't the whole point getting the guys real medical attention? |
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 10:30:43
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So Torres gets 5 for elbowing, 5 for fighting and a game misconduct. Eberle gets up and keeps playing.
Makes no sense, as others posted he should have been sent for evaluation. I don't think the hit was outrageous, Eberle is a young player and maybe doesn't know any better than to reach for a puck like that. Now Torres take the fall for being the bad guy.
Soon players will be scared to play the body at all for fear of being suspended. I get that concussions are a problem and the looming suspension is more of a detterant to himself/others than anything. |
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Guest4803
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 10:44:51
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| If bertuzzi got off the hook then torres doesnt deserve a thing, personally i think and eberle even admitted he put himself in a vunerable position, never does torres target and raise his elbow. 2 years ago this would of been considered a clean hit and would of made Don Cherrys rock em sock em video. How come O'mara didnt get an extra 2 for instigating? and like others have said if they called it a headshot eberle needs to go get evaluated for 15mins minimum, its like the nhl implimented a new rule but forgot to remind the officials. |
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Guest7830
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 11:25:51
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Hey Moron, the Bertuzzi incident was how long ago??? Times change. This is the way of the NHL.
And what kind of mental midget claims the player putting themselves in vulnerable positions that are to blame?? Torres wasn't even going for the puck.
It is complete waste of skin idiots like you that give hockey fans a bad name.
Retard. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 12:23:22
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Guest7830 - I think the "Bertuzzi incident" in question is the elbow to the head he committed a couple of weeks ago, not THE BERTUZZI INCIDENT.
So, it looks like Torres got 4 games for the hit. I am a bit surprised - perhaps he got some extra due to his comments after the game. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 12:34:34
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Originally posted by nuxfan
So, it looks like Torres got 4 games for the hit. I am a bit surprised - perhaps he got some extra due to his comments after the game.
Ouch! 4? Man, i thought my prediction of 3 might have been a bit harsh considering he's a first time offender (from what i've heard). I guessed 3 because due to the importance of the playoffs, 1 game is more like 1.5 or 2 reg season games.
This seems pretty harsh, comparatively speaking. Maybe the league is getting frustrated and thinking the message isn't getting through?
Of course, others will use the conspiracy theory and try to convince you the league doesn't want the Canucks to win! At that point Beans, it'll be ALL BETTMAN's FAULT!!!
I can only imagine how many games this would get in today's NHL.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oYABjkWiJc&feature=related
Gotta love the 1st youtube comment: "2 mins for diving"... lol |
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 12:55:14
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One of very few blurbs I've been able to find reagrding the workding of the new concussion protocol;
'2. The NHL Protocol for Concussion Evaluation and Management has been revised in three areas: 1) Mandatory removal from play if a player reports any listed symptoms or shows any listed signs (loss of consciousness
Motor incoordination/balance problems
Slow to get up following a hit to the head
blank or vacant look
Disorientation (unsure where he is)
Clutching the head after a hit
Visible facial injury in coombination with any of the above). 2) Examination by the team physician (as opposed to the athletic trainer) in a quiet place free from distraction. 3) Team physician is to use an acute evaluation tool such as the NHL SCAT 2 [SCAT stands for Sports Concussion Assessment Tool] as opposed to a quick rinkside assessment.'
From what the video shows, Eberle was up quickly, lucid, and obviously the training staff must have been comfortable that he wasn't concussed. That being said, it may show up later, if at all, and the game will have to continually adjust, as it always has when changes have been introduced.
I still think that it is better to send the message regarding these hits, and if I'm not mistaken, Torres has been suspended before for a hit or two, not sure about that, just niggles at the back of brain somewhere, past the porn, hot cars, hot girls, Mcdonalds value meals, and jumpsuits with sequins and big collars. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 12:58:39
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ha, Bure dishing out elbows to the head, thats classic stuff. I can imagine that would be 10 games today. 2 if he wasn't with the Canucks  |
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 13:32:10
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The asinine comments from Torres continue. Clean hit?? Eberle put his hand up at the last second??? Eberle knew Torres was coming???
Not sure how any of those things are relevant when Torres hit Eberle directly in the head.
What a meatball. |
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leigh
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 13:45:00
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Eberle was vulnerable and although he was reaching for the puck he didn't quite touch it, so in that respect it was a bad hit.
As for an elbow, it wasn't; it was a shoulder. The elbow came up on the follow through and was a non-factor.
As for a hit to the head, it looked incidental. Initial contact was to the shoulder and arm.
Didn't like the fact that Eberle was vulnerable, but loved the rest of the hit. Don't like the suspension at all. Personally I didn't think he deserved a suspension but these days who knows. |
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tbar
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 13:49:01
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Originally posted by Alex116
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Originally posted by nuxfan
So, it looks like Torres got 4 games for the hit. I am a bit surprised - perhaps he got some extra due to his comments after the game.
Ouch! 4? Man, i thought my prediction of 3 might have been a bit harsh considering he's a first time offender (from what i've heard). I guessed 3 because due to the importance of the playoffs, 1 game is more like 1.5 or 2 reg season games.
This seems pretty harsh, comparatively speaking. Maybe the league is getting frustrated and thinking the message isn't getting through?
Of course, others will use the conspiracy theory and try to convince you the league doesn't want the Canucks to win! At that point Beans, it'll be ALL BETTMAN's FAULT!!!
I can only imagine how many games this would get in today's NHL.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oYABjkWiJc&feature=related
Gotta love the 1st youtube comment: "2 mins for diving"... lol
Love this video, is this not one of those moments that could have been avoided, had Vancouver sent a tough guy to take care of this guy instead of letting Bure do it?? |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 14:41:38
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the thing that bugs me about this hit and makes me see it as suspendable is the fact Torres Clearly leaves the puck behind to deliver the hit. you can see Torres would have been first on the puck and he leaves the puck to make this hit,,
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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Guest4830
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 15:05:58
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Originally posted by fat_elvis_rocked
There it is! I remembered the incident, no suspension though, probably should have been.
http://youtu.be/D0KC91Wuz2k
or was it this one?
http://youtu.be/XyOiI0Kl570
this one looks eerily like the Eberle hit;
http://youtu.be/qB_DCwQtYS4
I like Torres, but am beginning to see why they gave him 4.
With todays rules the first one is suspendible. Lateral/east west, blind side hit. The last two were both north south with the responsibility being with the hitee to protect them selves. although, the fact that he didn't let up on Skrastins shows how little respect he has.
I was expecting 3, but am happy with 4. |
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Guest4803
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 15:09:53
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Originally posted by Guest7830
Hey Moron, the Bertuzzi incident was how long ago??? Times change. This is the way of the NHL.
And what kind of mental midget claims the player putting themselves in vulnerable positions that are to blame?? Torres wasn't even going for the puck.
It is complete waste of skin idiots like you that give hockey fans a bad name.
Retard.
Bahahaha do you watch hockey? im not talking about that loser steve moore and bertuzzi, but about bertuzzis flying elbow a week ago that went un punished. its fine people like you that make hockey fans shake their heads |
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Pushrod
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 15:18:46
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Love this video, is this not one of those moments that could have been avoided, had Vancouver sent a tough guy to take care of this guy instead of letting Bure do it??
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Guest7100
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 15:26:11
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| I can understand suspending him maybe 1 or 2 games because it was a blindside hit, other then that though he doesnt raise his elbow he just finishes his check, there have been a few headshots since the nhl talked about their 5 step plan back in march at the GM meetings, unfortunatley the refs have failed in the fact they havent sent a single player to be assesed by the medical staff for the mandatory 15mins. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 15:33:22
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When has it ever been legal to 'finish your check' to a players head??? Elbow, shoulder, knees, toes, it doesn't matter.
I don't get it......... |
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Guest4803
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 15:52:41
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| his head is at his own knees, he couldnt possibly hit anything else |
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Guest4803
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 16:17:17
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| hopefully we can all agree no matter what side your on that the nhl needs to be WAY more CONSISTENT in handing out punishment. |
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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 16:19:46
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Originally posted by leigh
Eberle was vulnerable and although he was reaching for the puck he didn't quite touch it, so in that respect it was a bad hit.
As for an elbow, it wasn't; it was a shoulder. The elbow came up on the follow through and was a non-factor.
As for a hit to the head, it looked incidental. Initial contact was to the shoulder and arm.
Didn't like the fact that Eberle was vulnerable, but loved the rest of the hit. Don't like the suspension at all. Personally I didn't think he deserved a suspension but these days who knows.
You're not the first Flames fan I've met who couldn't tell an elbow from another part of the human anatomy.
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 16:38:03
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Originally posted by leigh
Eberle was vulnerable and although he was reaching for the puck he didn't quite touch it, so in that respect it was a bad hit.
As for an elbow, it wasn't; it was a shoulder. The elbow came up on the follow through and was a non-factor.
As for a hit to the head, it looked incidental. Initial contact was to the shoulder and arm.
Didn't like the fact that Eberle was vulnerable, but loved the rest of the hit. Don't like the suspension at all. Personally I didn't think he deserved a suspension but these days who knows.
Incidental??? How can you say incidental????
These are super duper athletes who have superhuman vision of about 1000 1000 and they react one billiion times faster than you or I. Incidental? Really? That...............(wait for it).................boggles my mind!!!!!
And besides it wasn't an elbow to the head, it was an upper arm shiver to the neck causing the head to snap back in the direction that it wouldn't be conventionally possible, only looking like a head shot, instead of the head butting major that should have been called against Eberle!!!
Beans is right, it's fun being 12. |
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leigh
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 16:46:57
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Originally posted by fat_elvis_rocked
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Originally posted by leigh
Eberle was vulnerable and although he was reaching for the puck he didn't quite touch it, so in that respect it was a bad hit.
As for an elbow, it wasn't; it was a shoulder. The elbow came up on the follow through and was a non-factor.
As for a hit to the head, it looked incidental. Initial contact was to the shoulder and arm.
Didn't like the fact that Eberle was vulnerable, but loved the rest of the hit. Don't like the suspension at all. Personally I didn't think he deserved a suspension but these days who knows.
Incidental??? How can you say incidental????
These are super duper athletes who have superhuman vision of about 1000 1000 and they react one billiion times faster than you or I. Incidental? Really? That...............(wait for it).................boggles my mind!!!!!
And besides it wasn't an elbow to the head, it was an upper arm shiver to the neck causing the head to snap back in the direction that it wouldn't be conventionally possible, only looking like a head shot, instead of the head butting major that should have been called against Eberle!!!
Beans is right, it's fun being 12.
ummm that is far too many exclamation marks FER. I am unable to determine which sentence is more emphatic for you. But now that you've told me what my opinion should be I feel a lot better. Thanks. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 16:49:36
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Wow, this thread sure took off! 
I think the worst part is what someone already mentioned, and that's the fact that Torres could have got to the puck and got possesion. If anything, HE should have been the one getting hit! Finishing your check? Eberle shot, rebound was put wide by someone else, Eberle turns to go after it but never touches it, therefore, it's not a case of finishing a check, moreso a case of blatant interference, roughing, etc!!! It's not as though Eberle just dished off a nice pass and was admiring it! I guess what i'm saying is, i agree with Pasty!
FER, earlier i said he was a first time offender as that's what i'd heard but i just heard on the radio that in fact he's been caught with reckless play before, so i guess he does have a history. Maybe that's why the suspension was a little more than most thought it would be.
OIL...i'm ont a Flames fan by any means, but i kinda agree with Leigh. It wasn't a blatant elbow. See the link to the Bure hit i provided, or look at Matt Cooke's most recent, if you wanna see what a true elbowing penalty is all about! Fact of the matter in regards to hitting is that every NHL player has an arm dangling down from his shoulder. When hitting a guy, it's usually with the side of your body and therefore said arm is there! Does Torres' elbow come up BEFORE contact? NO! Have another look.
It's still a hit to the head, i won't argue that, and deserved of a suspension.
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Guest4803
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 17:18:50
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| The more i watch it the less of a headshot i see, torres first makes contact with eberle's shoulder which is leaning out towards the puck, hard to see if it does catch his head or like FER said if its just the whiplash reaction from being crushed, either way i dont agree with the punishment based on recent events i can understand people saying it looks like a blindside hit and that he wasnt going for the puck yes thats kinda true, however most the time when your linining a guy up for a hit your generally not playing the puck its the guy your hitting who has it or is attempting too, for the blindeside aspect he should of received a game or two tops, eberle mentioned he did see him but expected him to play the puck. Those statements about people putting themselves in a vunerable position not receiving any blame is like saying some guy who jumps into a lions cage isnt to blame if the lion attacks him, or someguy crossing a freeway isnt to blame if he gets flattened by a car, know where you are and what or who else is around you is your responsibilty. |
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 17:19:33
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Originally posted by leigh
ummm that is far to many exclamation marks FER. I am unable to determine which sentence is more emphatic for you. But now that you've told me what my opinion should be I feel a lot better. Thanks.
Not a problem my friend, if you'd like we can work on which Alberta you should really be cheering for as well?
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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 17:21:56
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Alright. Looked at it plenty. When the hit occurs, Raffi's arm from shoulder to elbow is at about a 10 degree angle. As he follows through, however, it increases to close to 45 degrees, with the elbow raising at Eberle's head level. Seems to indicate intent. Just glad Eberle is OK.
The Oil WILL make the playoffs in 2012. |
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 17:46:45
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Originally posted by Guest4803
Those statements about people putting themselves in a vunerable position not receiving any blame is like saying some guy who jumps into a lions cage isnt to blame if the lion attacks him, or someguy crossing a freeway isnt to blame if he gets flattened by a car, know where you are and what or who else is around you is your responsibilty.
I remember the 70's, when hungry lions and speeding cars were used as a deterrent to cheapshots. Bring back those days, and we wouldn't need helmets, visors, video replay, debates, Colin Campbell, goons, salary caps, Beans, The Duke, stanchions, concussions, playoffs, Slozo, Nucks fans, OILINONTARIO, Peter Forsberg, Bettman, Fat Elvis, Todd Bertuzzi, MINNESOTA, SAN JOSE, WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE TO SAY?
Some of you know the rest. Just having fun with the above comment.
Sorry. |
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sahis34
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 20:04:46
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He's targeted the head before(jason williams in the 06 playoffs), it looked like he did it again
Go OILERS Go!!! |
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Pushrod
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 20:53:36
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Originally posted by Guest4803
The more i watch it the less of a headshot i see, torres first makes contact with eberle's shoulder which is leaning out towards the puck, hard to see if it does catch his head or like FER said if its just the whiplash reaction from being crushed, either way i dont agree with the punishment based on recent events i can understand people saying it looks like a blindside hit and that he wasnt going for the puck yes thats kinda true, however most the time when your linining a guy up for a hit your generally not playing the puck its the guy your hitting who has it or is attempting too, for the blindeside aspect he should of received a game or two tops, eberle mentioned he did see him but expected him to play the puck. Those statements about people putting themselves in a vunerable position not receiving any blame is like saying some guy who jumps into a lions cage isnt to blame if the lion attacks him, or someguy crossing a freeway isnt to blame if he gets flattened by a car, know where you are and what or who else is around you is your responsibilty.
Everyone should be aware of what's around them, can't argue that. But everyone now knows that they may be getting a suspension for hits anywhere near the head. Unfortunately it's not consistent yet but hopefully that comes.
In other words, the person who makes the reckless hit should get a lot of the blame, as they are well aware of the potential consequences and can no longer play the ignorant card. The game is changing and it's up to the players to adjust. |
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 21:16:07
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Disclaimer--------
The whole head snapping back thingy is in reference to a rather odd debate that happened in here a while ago, involving Joe Thornton and David Perron, I wasn't being serious.
Also, any references made to incidental contact were a tongue in cheek shot at the whole Steckel/Crosby dialogue, also not serious.
As well, I refer to peanut butter and banana sandwiches every now and then, but don't let that lead anyone to believe that I could actually be Elvis and Fat, he is obviously dead....maybe.
But....I do actually rock.
The preceding message is brought to by the Society of Unknowing Characters who don't Know Easily how to tell Reality from Sarcasm.
I'm not only the president, I'm a member too!! |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 21:21:12
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What angers me the most about this is that Torres is quoted saying this: quote:
"It was a fine hit," Torres said after the game Tuesday. "I was finishing my hit and he had his head down. We were both going for the puck. I've got to finish my hits. He was obviously in a vulnerable position but at the end of the day I have to finish my hit or else I am out of a job.
"If they are trying to get rid of clean hits like that, what's this league going to be in a couple of years?"
Here's the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=6305001
Now tell me, Torres says he knew that Eberle was in a vulnerable position, yet he still hit him! Torres said "we were both going for the puck" the puck was feet away from Eberle, in fact, Eberle's head was down because he was reaching for a puck that was away from him!
This is what I never have understood about hockey: checking came to the sport in order to separate the player from the puck. If a player is already away from the puck, is there any need to try to remove the player from the puck again? (Yes, I understand the intimidation factor plays in...)
In addition, there was already another Canuck player around the puck, all Torres needed to do was to protect the puck for a second, and the other player would have had it.
There was absolutely no HOCKEY reason to lay the hit on Eberle. If you want to intimidate them, lay a good hip check on them like Doughty did earlier in the year on Hall. |
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fat_elvis_rocked
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 21:30:16
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Originally posted by Guest4803
The more i watch it the less of a headshot i see, torres first makes contact with eberle's shoulder which is leaning out towards the puck, hard to see if it does catch his head or like FER said if its just the whiplash reaction from being crushed, either way i dont agree with the punishment based on recent events i can understand people saying it looks like a blindside hit and that he wasnt going for the puck yes thats kinda true, however most the time when your linining a guy up for a hit your generally not playing the puck its the guy your hitting who has it or is attempting too, for the blindeside aspect he should of received a game or two tops, eberle mentioned he did see him but expected him to play the puck. Those statements about people putting themselves in a vunerable position not receiving any blame is like saying some guy who jumps into a lions cage isnt to blame if the lion attacks him, or someguy crossing a freeway isnt to blame if he gets flattened by a car, know where you are and what or who else is around you is your responsibilty.
You may have a point there, but I know for a fact if you happen to run over a lion on the freeway.....it's 5 and a game for sure. Now if the lion is in a cage and you hit him on the freeway? You're obviously DUI and took a left in to the zoo, instead of the right you needed to take to get back home to IHaveNoValidArgumentsville. |
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Lunchbox
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Posted - 04/07/2011 : 22:03:30
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I think the league got the message across perfectly. Torres wasn't trying to play the puck, he was trying to hit Eberle. If Eberle has the puck on his stick, maybe he gets a game or two because of the heightened sensitivity of the whole blind side thing.
How Torres can say he was going for the puck, when the puck is going towards the boards and Torres is going north-south towards Eberle is beyond me. If he turns towards the boards and pushes sideways on Eberle, knocking him skates over teakettle, no penalty at all...maybe two for interference.
The suspendable offence was targeting a player in a vulnerable position, on a non-hockey play, which it looks to me is what happened. Maybe four games is pushing it, but not out of this world. |
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