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nuxfan
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 Posted - 02/02/2012 : 16:01:57
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Originally posted by Beans15
For the line combo I used the site fantasyhockey911.com. It uses the line combinations for each team they most utilized in the previous game. Horton is injures. Also, I would suggest that Hemsky with Lucic or Hemsky with Horton would be a likely combination.
But in reality, BOS would be foolish to mess with what is a very effective line of Horton/Krejci/Lucic - even if Hemsky is more skilled than either Lucic or Horton. Were BOS to pickup Hemsky at the deadline, I think he would show up on the second line, probably dropping Seguin or Bergeron down to the 3rd line. |
Edited by - nuxfan on 02/02/2012 16:03:31 |
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Guest7116
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Posted - 02/02/2012 : 17:42:28
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Guest4306
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Posted - 02/02/2012 : 19:07:43
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If you agree that Hemsky is not one of the top 50 forwards in the NHL, I don't see how he can be described as an elite level talent or player?
If you add goalies and defensemen to the mix, I doubt Hemsky ranks as one of the top 100 players in the NHL.
But this is an opinion site, and an opinion topic. I think an elite player is a player who is the 1st or 2nd best player on his own team, or one of the top 10 players at his position. (And not every single player in the NHL who plays on their team's first line.)
There are obvious elite players, like the top 15-20 scorers (or leaders in points), the top 10-15 defensemen, and the top 10 goalies to name a few categories. Hemsky is no where near being a top forward with his production this season. I maintain that he's over-rated, which is a cousin of being an under-performer.
I will name five players (there are many more) who have at least twice the offensive production as Hemsky this season, and while they're very good players, I personally wouldn't put them in the elite category: Matt Moulson, PA Parenteau, Scott Hartnell, Kris Versteeg and Radim Vrbata. (Granted Hemsky has only played 37 games, but each of the guys mentioned has 40 points or more so far this season as compared to Hemsky's 20 points, and these other players provide other elements to their game, elements which Hemsky sorely lacks.)
But elite is a subjective term. Some people might say that every player in the NHL is an elite hockey player because they're one of the top 700-800 players in the world.
My definition of elite is as described, and to put it another way, a player who is one of the top 10% players in the NHL, and while Hemsky is a decent player, he is not in the top 10% in my opinion. |
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Guest1451
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Posted - 02/02/2012 : 19:52:36
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| 20 points in 37 games? Maybe trade him for a Zamboni, they both log about the same amount of ice time. Although Zambonis are pretty expensive, so maybe a used one - or a shovel. |
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Guest8875
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Posted - 02/02/2012 : 22:44:04
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In the second intermission of the Sam Gagner show tonight they said L.A., Detroit and Nashville are interested in Hemsky.
L.A. has
Brown, Kopitar & Williams - 1st Line
Penner, Richards & Stoll - 2nd Line
Detroit has
Franzen, Datsyuk & Bertuzzi
Flippula, Zetterberg & Hudler
Nashville has
Wilson, Legwand & Hornvquist
Kostitsyn, Fisher & Erat |
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Posted - 02/03/2012 : 07:58:01
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Originally posted by Guest8875
In the second intermission of the Sam Gagner show tonight they said L.A., Detroit and Nashville are interested in Hemsky.
L.A. has
Brown, Kopitar & Williams - 1st Line
Penner, Richards & Stoll - 2nd Line
Detroit has
Franzen, Datsyuk & Bertuzzi
Flippula, Zetterberg & Hudler
Nashville has
Wilson, Legwand & Hornvquist
Kostitsyn, Fisher & Erat
Funny thing is, Gagner only had three points after 2 periods - a nice night, but no "show" at that point in a 3-3 game. But certainly after the night was over . . . I do think it put Gagner suqarely off the trading block - and Hemsky now certainly has the spotlight on him to get traded!
No doubt that the Oil would be looking for a d-man or two back in any deal. Not sure why Detroit or LA would be mentioned though, can't see Hemsky as a centre fitting in their lineup.
Myself, I'd look at teams with promising young defencemen to spare who want an upgrade at centre - not a terribly long list. This would include the Leafs, maybe Calgary (tough deal to make though obviously), Minnesota, maybe even Washington? Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head . . .
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/03/2012 : 09:34:59
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Originally posted by slozo
No doubt that the Oil would be looking for a d-man or two back in any deal. Not sure why Detroit or LA would be mentioned though, can't see Hemsky as a centre fitting in their lineup.
Hemsky is not a centre, he plays RW. |
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Guest5744
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Posted - 02/03/2012 : 10:25:11
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| i really can't see him going to any of those teams (nashville, detroit, LA). what prospect or draft pick do any of those teams have to send edmontons way that would be worth the while? possibly, possibly ryan ellis but that would be a huge mistake on nashville's part |
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Guest8875
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Posted - 02/03/2012 : 11:25:16
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Originally posted by slozo
Funny thing is, Gagner only had three points after 2 periods - a nice night, but no "show" at that point in a 3-3 game. But certainly after the night was over . . . I do think it put Gagner suqarely off the trading block - and Hemsky now certainly has the spotlight on him to get traded!
Not the ganger show my ***, Lol. So what 3 points after 2 periods.How about 5 points in one period. It's rare to see anyone other than Crosby, Malkin, Or Ovechkin do that in a game let alone a period. Not to mention he claimed all three stars. Last time i seen 8 points in one game i was knee high to a midget and chances are I wont see it again for 20yrs. Ganger was reminiscent of Russel Crowe in Gladiator. Just look at him and you can see him going "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?, IS THIS NOT WHY YOU ARE HERE?" LOL, Don't be a hater.. |
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Guest4306
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Posted - 02/04/2012 : 07:41:01
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TSN did a segment last night on the top players most likely to be considered in trade-deadline deals.
The segment was called "Trade Bait," and in their graphic, they listed Hemsky as a 2nd line right winger, an assessment which seems reasonable to me.
Sam Gagner was listed as a 2/3 centreman (not two thirds the size of a centreman, but as either a 2nd or 3rd line centreman), an assessment which also seems accurate to me.
I believe these assessments were made on a player's current value and status, not their potential, etc.
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Hemsky - Time up in Edmonton? 
