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Guest9808
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Posted - 05/14/2013 :  10:13:02  Reply with Quote
Here it is folks. I present you with the winner of the loser cup Alex Ovechkin.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=423143

Alex116
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Posted - 05/14/2013 :  11:32:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, Luongo, Raymond, Edler and Ballard to Washington

For....

OV?

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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 05/14/2013 :  11:46:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the Vancouver players of the trade would be onboard.

"I now realise that the Toronto Maple Leafs, Canada's finest hockey team, is better than the Ottawa Senators - and always will be. PS - LOVE that Dion Phaneuf! "
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The Duke
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Posted - 05/14/2013 :  12:28:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice one Alex but OV is going to Toronto.......wait and see

After Luongo goes to Toronto......

Diffrent deal of course.....
OV to the leafs,,,,,plus some tinkering

Gardiner...Reimer....Graboski to wash

Some1`s got to start a rumor
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Guest5052
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Posted - 05/14/2013 :  14:30:38  Reply with Quote
Its not admirable when an athlete blames their failure on anyone but themselves. But at the same time, in light of that culture I sometimes admire when a player stands up and says the unpopular thing. Shane Doan did it last year.

In truth I didnt see much of the series so I cant comment substantively on that, but there are games that the officials officiate poorly and the outcome is effected. On egame in a series matters and one or two bad calls in a game matters.

If Ovie genuinely believes that, then isnt he right to voice it, even if that makes him less popular?

...now im not saying that there was any conspiracy here, but if he believes the officials let the game down by not meeting a certain standard, isnt he entitled to say so?

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Beans15
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Posted - 05/14/2013 :  17:22:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Winners overcome adversity. Losers use it as a crutch.

The definition of a winner is not always winning. It's not make excuses for losing. Ovie was legitimately one of the best players in the NHL this season and Washington is likely not in the playoffs without him. Then, he completely disappeared in the playoffs with just a goal and an assist in 7 games.

Maybe Ovechkin should talk about himself being better before worrying about the refs.


Loser

Ottawa, the best coached team in the NHL, with MVP like players such as Chris Neil, will win the Cup in 2013!

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slozo
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Posted - 05/15/2013 :  05:36:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The reffing WAS terrible in the series, and overall, I totally agree with Ovechkin on the officiating. But that is not the point.

The point is that, saying this and talking about it, instead of manning up and being "big" about it . . . makes you a loser in everyone's eyes no matter which way you cut it.

If Ovie had the brains and true leadership qualities of a stand-up guy, he would have said, "I have to first look at myself before blaming the refs or hot goaltendng or dirty plays . . . and I could have been a lot better, period. If I am playing the way I know I can, I think this series would have gone a different way."

Even if the sour grapes are legitimate - which they are in this case - you have to take ownership of your own actions first.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Guest9808
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Posted - 06/04/2013 :  06:01:47  Reply with Quote
This is after the first two crushing loses to the Bruins. See the difference between what winners say and losers say?

We dont sit here and accept that," Crosby said. "We know were looked upon to score and produce. Im not going to sit here and make any excuses. We have to be better. Thats the bottom line."

I dont think anybody in our room is happy with the first two games, the way weve played all the way through it as individuals and as a team, Iginla said. We all know we have to be better. I had a tough couple of games, and Im gonna throw that out and find a way to be effective and be better going forward, and I think thats everybody in our rooms mentality."

They might lose the series but they are not losers.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 06/04/2013 :  08:58:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest9808

This is after the first two crushing loses to the Bruins. See the difference between what winners say and losers say?

We dont sit here and accept that," Crosby said. "We know were looked upon to score and produce. Im not going to sit here and make any excuses. We have to be better. Thats the bottom line."

I dont think anybody in our room is happy with the first two games, the way weve played all the way through it as individuals and as a team, Iginla said. We all know we have to be better. I had a tough couple of games, and Im gonna throw that out and find a way to be effective and be better going forward, and I think thats everybody in our rooms mentality."

They might lose the series but they are not losers.



There was no excuse for game 2 other than themselves. However after game 1:

- complaints about the start times for the games being 8pm instead of 7 or 7:30
- complaints about the referees being "inconsistent"

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/penguins/penguins-notebook-adapting-to-strange-start-time-not-issue-690301/

I don't hear anything from the Pens that is different from any other team in the NHL, its standard post-game information:

- we weren't happy with <insert list of subtle gripes here, with the hope that refs/NHL office/schedulers/press will pick up on it and adjust>
- but, we can't blame any of that for our loss, we have to be better/more consistent/find ways to win, and forget about what happened before. Only thinking about next game.

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