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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  12:00:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Who's your pick?

Ellis or Mason?

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Choices:

Josh Harding
Mike Smith
Antero Nittymaki
Matheiu Garon
Johan Hedberg
John Grahame
Jocelyn Thibault
Other (who?)


Edited by - nashvillepreds on 01/24/2008 12:01:09

Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  12:15:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
GOOD original question, I like it!

But Conklin deserves a spot there Nash! Look at the standings in the East!

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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  12:24:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as I'm concerened though, this season he's not a back-up. If I add him I have to add Emery and Osgood too.

Ellis or Mason?

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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  12:38:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK but Emery was a legitamite starter at the beginning of the season, as was Osgood.

But most of us didn't expect to see Conklin half as many starts as he has wins, what with Fleury and Sabourin as first and second options!

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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  12:40:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Osgood wasn't supposed to be a starter, that was HASEK.

Ellis or Mason?

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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  12:47:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fine but Osgood had a legitamte chance, we all knew that Hasek would not play more than three quarters with his back and Osgood's potential, at his age!

Same story with Emery, we knew Gerber would give him a run for his money as he got to start the season.

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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  14:00:48  Reply with Quote
I'd say Garon has taken over #1 spot in E-Town.
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hkalirah
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  15:54:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've gotta go with Osgoode on this one. It's at the point where Babcock still doesn't know who his #1 is.

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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  15:59:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys I think the point of the question is to ask who is the best backup who is CLEARLY a backup. If not, Price / Huest, Toskala / Raycroft, etc. would be on the list.

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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  17:45:08  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

Guys I think the point of the question is to ask who is the best backup who is CLEARLY a backup. If not, Price / Huest, Toskala / Raycroft, etc. would be on the list.

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I would agree with that Alex. Here's one for everyone...CUJO! Hey, it could happen!
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irvine
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  18:42:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As Alex would say... "a back up is a back up is a back up."

So with that said, I'd have to say Osgood. The fact is, we all know Hasek is the #1 in Detroit. Harder to tell with Ottawa, but the guy there is currently Gerber. So i'd call Emery the back up there.



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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  19:01:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the honour. Look, I am getting quoted! Momma, I made you proud!

But I do not agree, as I do not feel Osgood was in essence a back up, although technically, you are right, he is.

But for this forum, I don't think he counts. Most FSN guys drafted rounds and rounds before other backups. Anybody's guess as to why!

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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  19:05:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
on that list id say smith, and i dont think osgood is the wings back up look at his stats, and they guy who should be on there is ty conklin even though he plays more like a starter

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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  19:06:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leafsfan_94

on that list id say smith, and i dont think osgood is the wings back up look at his stats, and they guy who should be on there is ty conklin even though he plays more like a starter

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Ty Conklin is doing what Ward did in the Cup run of 06. Yeah, he is a starter at the moment. But he obviously is not the STARTER starter!

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PainTrain
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  19:50:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And Alex what is Ward now? Is he not a starter?
Back up goalies can go from back up to starter in 1 year or 1 playoff run.

But right now. I've gotta give it to Carey Price. He WILL be a number 1 goalie and as of now he is playing like one. This is his rookie season and he is putting up great numbers for the Montreal Canadians.
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Pasty7
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  20:48:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain

And Alex what is Ward now? Is he not a starter?
Back up goalies can go from back up to starter in 1 year or 1 playoff run.

But right now. I've gotta give it to Carey Price. He WILL be a number 1 goalie and as of now he is playing like one. This is his rookie season and he is putting up great numbers for the Montreal Canadians.



hes in hamilton and his g.A.A is over 4

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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/25/2008 :  14:21:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
paintrain, i agree price is a good young goalie but the habs are ruining him they played him too many game in the hl for a 20 year old goalie. at the beginning of the season he was good, but they made all this talk about him being a number one goalie, put too much pressure on him now look hes in the AHL and his G.AA is over 4. if they leave im in the minors he'll be fine but if they bring him up for like another 15+ games there going to destroy his career and make him loose his confidence. like wat torono is doin with pogge.i dont liek that he hasnt got any reg. season nhl games but its smart not to rush him.

quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain


But right now. I've gotta give it to Carey Price. He WILL be a number 1 goalie and as of now he is playing like one. This is his rookie season and he is putting up great numbers for the Montreal Canadians.



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Pasty7
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Posted - 01/25/2008 :  16:03:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leafsfan_94

paintrain, i agree price is a good young goalie but the habs are ruining him they played him too many game in the hl for a 20 year old goalie. at the beginning of the season he was good, but they made all this talk about him being a number one goalie, put too much pressure on him now look hes in the AHL and his G.AA is over 4. if they leave im in the minors he'll be fine but if they bring him up for like another 15+ games there going to destroy his career and make him loose his confidence. like wat torono is doin with pogge.i dont liek that he hasnt got any reg. season nhl games but its smart not to rush him.

quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain


But right now. I've gotta give it to Carey Price. He WILL be a number 1 goalie and as of now he is playing like one. This is his rookie season and he is putting up great numbers for the Montreal Canadians.



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right on,,,, couldn't have put it better myself,,,, goalies take time just cuz guys like roy and brodeur did it at 20 doesn;t mean everyone will besides the habs have huet and well how much better can you ask a goalie to play?

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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/25/2008 :  16:19:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thx pasty....i hope u wernt being sarcastic lol

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irvine
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Posted - 01/25/2008 :  21:59:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leafsfan_94

on that list id say smith, and i dont think osgood is the wings back up look at his stats, and they guy who should be on there is ty conklin even though he plays more like a starter

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Okay... so, I don't follow.

If Conklin should be on, but he plays more like a starter.. Should Osgood not be in the same catagory?

Or, is Hasek Detroit's backup? You've lost me. ;)


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MSC
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Posted - 01/25/2008 :  22:51:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I picked other....whether you want to admit it or not Osgood is the BACK UP goalie....here's an easy way to determine who the back up of a team is....it's game 7 of the Cup Finals, who's going to be in the goal?

Also, I guess some of you haven't been paying attention because Garon is currently the go to guy in Edmonton as opposed to a back up.
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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/26/2008 :  09:55:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
im trying to say the osgood is more of a starter this year than hasek because hes done way better and conklin isnt the starter so i think he should be on the list


quote:
Originally posted by irvine

quote:
Originally posted by Leafsfan_94

on that list id say smith, and i dont think osgood is the wings back up look at his stats, and they guy who should be on there is ty conklin even though he plays more like a starter

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Okay... so, I don't follow.

If Conklin should be on, but he plays more like a starter.. Should Osgood not be in the same catagory?

Or, is Hasek Detroit's backup? You've lost me. ;)


Irvine



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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/26/2008 :  10:00:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wait nevermind im getting confused not sure what im talking about here

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