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Guest9838
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 Posted - 06/10/2009 : 09:30:17
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He's back...
Well if there was ever a team to sign with I guess this decade's version of the Broadstreet Bullies is as good as place as any.
Personally I think it's a mistake and it will hurt the chemistry of the team.
What do you think? sink or swim?
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 09:57:23
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Emery will be the clear cut #1!
30+ wins, a GAA under 3 and a S% over .900...Ottawa will sure regret getting rid of him...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 10:18:12
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| Or Emery could implode that team like he did in Ottawa, with his its all about me attitude. I mean seriously this guy is a great goalie when he is motivated but bad for team moral when something pisses him off (50% of the time). This is the same goalie who went fisticuffs when his own teamate in practice (can't remeber if it was Neil, Kelly or Mcgratton). If he playes like he did his rookie season or his 3rd season then he could be the bonified #1 in Philly and Ottawa gets screwed again by a player they groomed. |
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 14:29:38
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
Emery will be the clear cut #1!
30+ wins, a GAA under 3 and a S% over .900...Ottawa will sure regret getting rid of him...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
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hockster
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 16:13:36
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I'm sure that after a stretch out of the league he will shape up, somewhat.
But dont expect him to be a bonified #1 because he isnt.
It will be nice to see him battling it out with whoever else they sign, thinking they will sign Niittymaki or Legace.
Iginla for 2010 team captain.
Flames for cup...eventually. |
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Axey
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 07:16:04
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| This guy is good people, he was on a ridiculous Ottawa team on the decline last time around, but before then he was good. Philly is really going to do good next year i believe, and wow this is a tough team. Perfect fit for Emery. |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 08:29:49
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I don't think the question is talent, I think it's a question of character. Has Emery matured enough to be a team player? What's his work ethic going to be like. If he plays a backup roll for say a Nittymaki or a Biron, how long will it be before he gets sulky and starts turning up to practice late.
I think Philly has a strong team with a well defined identity, Emery seems to fit that identity to some degree, but then again Philly also jettisoned bad seeds in the past like Downie. It will be an interesting experiment. |
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tbar
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 08:43:56
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| Im just curious how having a tough team relates to being a good fit for Emery? Goalies are not suposed to be tough they're supose to stop the puck. What diference does it make to Emery if the team in front of him is tough? So he has better dance partners in practice? |
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MSC
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 09:04:21
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Originally posted by Guest9838
I don't think the question is talent, I think it's a question of character. Has Emery matured enough to be a team player? What's his work ethic going to be like. If he plays a backup roll for say a Nittymaki or a Biron, how long will it be before he gets sulky and starts turning up to practice late.
I think Philly has a strong team with a well defined identity, Emery seems to fit that identity to some degree, but then again Philly also jettisoned bad seeds in the past like Downie. It will be an interesting experiment.
Downie did nothing except for what was asked of him by his superiors. |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 13:51:20
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Originally posted by MSC
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Originally posted by Guest9838
I don't think the question is talent, I think it's a question of character. Has Emery matured enough to be a team player? What's his work ethic going to be like. If he plays a backup roll for say a Nittymaki or a Biron, how long will it be before he gets sulky and starts turning up to practice late.
I think Philly has a strong team with a well defined identity, Emery seems to fit that identity to some degree, but then again Philly also jettisoned bad seeds in the past like Downie. It will be an interesting experiment.
Downie did nothing except for what was asked of him by his superiors.
Didn't Downie Injure a Lady bing candidate, Dean Mccammond without prevication in the preseason. Are you suggesting he was told to take out Dean by Flyers staff. Maybe you didn't think that one through. |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 13:53:28
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| I maybe stretch the Lady Bing candidate. You have to be a noticable player to win that award. Mccammond more like to slow turtle version of a lady bing. |
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MSC
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 14:01:02
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What are you going on about? Dean McAmmond? Lady Byng?
Have you ever seen an interview with Bobby Clarke? Have you ever seen an interview with Bobby Clarke discussing Downie?
And just for good measure..
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Guest2162
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 17:46:50
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
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Originally posted by MSC
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Originally posted by Guest9838
I don't think the question is talent, I think it's a question of character. Has Emery matured enough to be a team player? What's his work ethic going to be like. If he plays a backup roll for say a Nittymaki or a Biron, how long will it be before he gets sulky and starts turning up to practice late.
I think Philly has a strong team with a well defined identity, Emery seems to fit that identity to some degree, but then again Philly also jettisoned bad seeds in the past like Downie. It will be an interesting experiment.
Downie did nothing except for what was asked of him by his superiors.
Didn't Downie Injure a Lady bing candidate, Dean Mccammond without prevication in the preseason. Are you suggesting he was told to take out Dean by Flyers staff. Maybe you didn't think that one through.
No he wasn't told to take out Dean but he was told to play a high intensity physical game and thats what he did. Do you know anything about hockey? |
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hanley6
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 17:56:27
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Philadelphia must be out of their minds.... Emery hasn't changed his ways at all... The guy has mental issues and I don't mean he's mentally handicap, he's a psycho, and he don't show up for practices because he's a hot head... Philadelphia made a huge mistake signing him even if it is for just 1 year. He'll be backup to Biron. There is no way Emery is better than Biron, not even close....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiHHS-wjyw8
Former Ottawa Senators goalie Ray Emery, was caught on camera assaulting Atlant Mytishchi the trainer for his the Russian Hockey team that he currently plays for. This guy can't seem to do anything right lately and it was not that long ago that he was playing in the Stanley Cup Finals.
"From what I understand, Ray was upset about being pulled, he was hot and his head was sweaty. He told the trainer three times that he didn't want the hat and then the guy gave him a tough-guy stare. Ray then pushed him away." Said agent JP Barry
He looks like he has finally lost his mind. Supposedly, he gave up five goals in the game and was pulled. After that, the trainer approached him and tried to force him to wear the team sponsors hat, while he was riding the pine. Emery decided that good way to tell him that he didn't want to wear the hat was to punch him in the face. Good job Ray, way to show that Canadian hospitality.
Can someone please tell this guy that he running out of leagues to play in, maybe he should just join the UFC, where he can properly vent his frustrations. Hopefully it won't take long for the Flyers to realize they made a HUGE mistake signing him.. He don't deserve to play anywhere for money. |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 18:21:51
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Originally posted by MSC
What are you going on about? Dean McAmmond? Lady Byng?
Have you ever seen an interview with Bobby Clarke? Have you ever seen an interview with Bobby Clarke discussing Downie?
And just for good measure..
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Do you want me to add a smiley face to every joke, so you can get it?   
There now I feel better. |
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Guest0971
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 09:10:33
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| don't forget Downie was suspended this past Mar in the AHL for physical abuse of an official (20 games), do you think his coaches told him to do that too... |
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Guest4163
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 11:16:03
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Hanley6 it's the first time I agree with you.
Emery doesn't deserve to play in the NHL. He as issues and brings a lot of problems to a team. Plus he is not that talented. He had one good year. And many goalies come and go, they have a good year, then they fade out. Jim Carrey, Andrew Raycroft... just to name a few.
After they have their one hit wonder, teams will sign him for 3 to four years after just to hope he comes back to form and then they don't and you never hear about them again, except for two guys at a bar naming old hockey players. "Hey remember Ray Emery that guy was fighting a lot" "Oh yeah Emery hahahah good one" |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 12:08:57
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I disagree. Emery has the skill to be a #1 goalie, he just needs to get his head screwed on straight. Living in Russia for a year would definatley make you a little more appreciative of what you have back home. I think he'll be good in Philly.
He definatley fits the flyer style. With that being said, I dont beleive he is really an upgrade on Biron...he should be able to deliver similar stats as Biron...but I dont think he is really a step up.
Philly will never have a BONIFIDE #1 goalie.... maybe one day...
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 12:09:37
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I agree that Emery back in the NHL is a joke. Kinda like a Avery situation. You know it will happen, just have to figure out how long it will take.
However, skillwise, I take Emery over Biron every day of the week that ends in Y. There is no contest. Emery is a bonified #1. Although not an elite goalie, definately has the skills to play every night. Biron was a back up in Buffalo. They tried to make him a starter in Philly and obviously that didn't work as they went out to get Emery.
Emery is a more than capable goalie skill wise. But he is still a tool that is a cancer in the dressing room. |
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tbar
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 13:32:16
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Originally posted by Beans15
Emery is a more than capable goalie skill wise. But he is still a tool that is a cancer in the dressing room.
And you know this from all the time you spent with him in the dressing room?
Seriously you and nobody else on this website know what Emery is like in the dressing room.
We do know he wasn't considered great in Ottawa but we dont know the reasons why. Just like we dont know why they seem to have 2 coaches a season in Ottawa.
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 13:51:26
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i played with ray. hes a d***.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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tbar
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 14:20:01
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
i played with ray. hes a d***.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
OK that was funny ill give you that. |
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umteman
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Posted - 06/12/2009 : 14:42:33
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Obviously the Flyers forgot about their cities NFL franchise who a few years ago signed a free agent receiver named Terrel Owens.
Did you hear about the retired proctologist? He spent 40 years saying "what's a place like this doing in a girl like you?" |
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 04:21:51
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
I maybe stretch the Lady Bing candidate. You have to be a noticable player to win that award. Mccammond more like to slow turtle version of a lady bing.
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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Guest0614
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 04:24:30
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Sorry having some computer troubles with my last post but as I was about to say how is Mcamond a slow turtle? I'm pretty sure he won fastest skater in the sens skills competition how does that make him slow?
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Originally posted by Sensfan101
[quote]Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
I maybe stretch the Lady Bing candidate. You have to be a noticable player to win that award. Mccammond more like to slow turtle version of a lady bing.
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 04:26:08
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| Still having computer troubles that was me |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 08:42:12
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Originally posted by Guest0614
Sorry having some computer troubles with my last post but as I was about to say how is Mcamond a slow turtle? I'm pretty sure he won fastest skater in the sens skills competition how does that make him slow?
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Originally posted by Sensfan101
[quote]Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
I maybe stretch the Lady Bing candidate. You have to be a noticable player to win that award. Mccammond more like to slow turtle version of a lady bing.
I dont think Mccamond won any type of skating competition. He's known as a big grinder with good defensive skills. If he did I would be surprised, with Fisher and Alfredson on the team, those guys are excellent skaters.
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 08:49:21
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| Vermette and Foligno won the skating competition's in the sens Team red VS Black. Mcammond played on the 3rd line, or checking line with Neil and Kelly alot. |
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Axey
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 09:01:14
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Originally posted by hanley6
Philadelphia must be out of their minds.... Emery hasn't changed his ways at all... The guy has mental issues and I don't mean he's mentally handicap, he's a psycho, and he don't show up for practices because he's a hot head... Philadelphia made a huge mistake signing him even if it is for just 1 year. He'll be backup to Biron. There is no way Emery is better than Biron, not even close....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiHHS-wjyw8
Former Ottawa Senators goalie Ray Emery, was caught on camera assaulting Atlant Mytishchi the trainer for his the Russian Hockey team that he currently plays for. This guy can't seem to do anything right lately and it was not that long ago that he was playing in the Stanley Cup Finals.
"From what I understand, Ray was upset about being pulled, he was hot and his head was sweaty. He told the trainer three times that he didn't want the hat and then the guy gave him a tough-guy stare. Ray then pushed him away." Said agent JP Barry
He looks like he has finally lost his mind. Supposedly, he gave up five goals in the game and was pulled. After that, the trainer approached him and tried to force him to wear the team sponsors hat, while he was riding the pine. Emery decided that good way to tell him that he didn't want to wear the hat was to punch him in the face. Good job Ray, way to show that Canadian hospitality.
Can someone please tell this guy that he running out of leagues to play in, maybe he should just join the UFC, where he can properly vent his frustrations. Hopefully it won't take long for the Flyers to realize they made a HUGE mistake signing him.. He don't deserve to play anywhere for money.
I don't think he is psycho, little extreme but after getting shelled with 5 goals and pulled, would you want some idiot in your face trying to put a hat on you like a little kid? The trainer was a complete douche and he looks like a moron in the video and should know better not to pull that kind of sh*t with Emery.
I like Emery he adds character and isn't a little girl, he adds excitement like Avery does. Can you imagine how many more people would watch a game if they knew when the crazy antics of either Avery or Emery were going to take place? Whether they like it or not everyone wants to see it, some because they do enjoy it and others so they can complain and nag about how stupid it is. Not to mention he isn't a bad goalie, and Philly isn't an organization to mess around with him, there is a build up of testosterone in that locker room so to say, unlike Ottawa's. Who let's their goalie fight Andrew Peters? |
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 09:05:42
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| Honestly, this last comment is frustrating. I don't watch any sport for the antics. I watch them for the sport. No different than Manny in Baseball or TO in football. It's a side show. True fans are not interested in the side show. |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 09:20:22
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| C'mon Beans sometime its the contriversies that make this game so fun to watch. He's not the 1st goalie to have a screw loose. Look at Belfour, Roy and Fuhr. That being said its what Emery does in the locker room that makes this guy dangerous. |
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Axey
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 15:48:24
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| Yes Beans, I don't watch it for that either but it is a bonus. With that being said, the game isn't just for you and I, whatever a persons reason for watching it is who cares its more viewers. Whatever will get more people into the game and make the game more popular is what we need in the game (not saying only antics, the sport as well but why not get everyone in on it). This is the NHL not the KHL fighting is a part of the game, as is physical play and tempers for the game. |
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hanley6
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 21:29:25
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Originally posted by Beans15
I agree that Emery back in the NHL is a joke. Kinda like a Avery situation. You know it will happen, just have to figure out how long it will take.
However, skillwise, I take Emery over Biron every day of the week that ends in Y. There is no contest. Emery is a bonified #1. Although not an elite goalie, definately has the skills to play every night. Biron was a back up in Buffalo. They tried to make him a starter in Philly and obviously that didn't work as they went out to get Emery.
Emery is a more than capable goalie skill wise. But he is still a tool that is a cancer in the dressing room.
Biron is one of the most underrated goalies in the NHL, Emery like Toskala has very poor goaltending skills, Emery is always down, you want to score shoot the puck up.... Biron is better by a long shot.. Emery should be backup |
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hanley6
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 21:46:20
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Originally posted by Axey
This is the NHL not the KHL fighting is a part of the game, as is physical play and tempers for the game.
yes fighting is part of the game, as it should be... But it's the bad attitude, not showing up for practice, thinking he can get away with anything, I'm king s*** attitude, constantly starting fights with teammates, coaches and trainers. That's out of line... The NHL or any sport doesn't need losers like Emery or Avery... Attack a trainer because you don't want to be a team player enough to wear a hat, that was way out of line on Emery's behalf, he is psycho meaning he snaps over pretty much nothing and he can't seem to control his temper, if he could he wouldn't have done that |
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 15:49:25
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What was I thinking.
Biron is a super star goalie and people just can't wait until July 1st so they can make him an offer and he can be their #1 goalie! Those guys in Buffalo were morons for letting him go and giving the starting job to Miller and these guys in Philly are morons for bringing in a guy like Emery.
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 06/15/2009 : 07:04:51
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I think the fact that Emery was a Senator is the reason why he was able to get away with so much crap. That dressing room seemed to have poor leadership and there didnt seem to be anyone to stand up and put Ray in his place. He could just get away with whatever he wanted, than the coach would get fired.
I don't think the Philly Flyers would put up with any of the crap the sens did. I'm also a beleiver in second chances and the year is Russia probably did Emery alot of good. I think he has a good bounce bad season in his career. Biron is a middle of the road goalie at best, Emery (at the top of his game) is probably a slight notch above, but again (like i said earlier) I don't really see it as a huge upgrade...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Alex
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Posted - 06/15/2009 : 08:49:05
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
I think the fact that Emery was a Senator is the reason why he was able to get away with so much crap. That dressing room seemed to have poor leadership and there didnt seem to be anyone to stand up and put Ray in his place. He could just get away with whatever he wanted, than the coach would get fired.
I don't think the Philly Flyers would put up with any of the crap the sens did. I'm also a beleiver in second chances and the year is Russia probably did Emery alot of good. I think he has a good bounce bad season in his career. Biron is a middle of the road goalie at best, Emery (at the top of his game) is probably a slight notch above, but again (like i said earlier) I don't really see it as a huge upgrade...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Just cause they're the broadstreet bullies doesn't mean they don't take crap. If you think there was a leadership issue in Ottawa I'm interested to hear how Philly is any stronger in that department. Emery will change for himself and to thank the guy who gave him a chance, not out of fear or respect for the Flyers players.
There are very few teams in the league that wouldn't crumble under internal strife after inviting a bad apple into the bunch. Detroit would be one of them. I'm hard pressed to find another. Emotions run high in hockey and only a select few can rule their emotion with their heads when things aren't going well. |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 08:18:11
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Your right Alex, if Emery has changed its beacuse its what he wants, and out of respect for Philly brass. I still think that the "Flyers Culture" is a much more powerful one than the "culture of losing" in Ottawa and it commands a certain level of respect the moment you walk in the dressing room. Ottawa just doesnt give off that same vibe.... Im a huge Mike Richards fan as well and while he is young, he seems to be emerging as one of the best leaders in the game.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 10:53:39
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Emery is like a bad imitation of Mike Tyson. Who says if he does change one minute for the good of the team he doesn't go loco again the next. This guy will be bad news wherever he goes, guaranteed. As for Phily having a better hockey culture than Ottawa, this team gets roasted alive as many playoff rounds as Ottawa and the pressure is gonna be higher here to produce a winner than it has ever been for Emery in Ottawa.
I say he snaps in the 1st 2 months (pulls a Happy Gilmore, your gonna die clown) and starts beating on players on the opposing team, maybe even someone on his own team or coaching staff. I'm actually looking forward to it. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 11:11:07
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This is a pure Hero or Goat situation. If Emery stays level headed, and Philly has any kind of success next year, Holmgren is a Hero. If Emery goes Happy Gilmore (I dig that) as many people feel he will, Holmgren is a goat.
As I stated, if Emery can keep his wits, he is a step up on the other goalies in Philly. A proven regular season guy and a proven playoff guy. Take a look at the current goalies in the league. There are only about 5 that have won the Cup before and maybe another 5-8 that have Finals experience. Emery is one of those.
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 12:25:39
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Emery is like a bad imitation of Mike Tyson. Who says if he does change one minute for the good of the team he doesn't go loco again the next. This guy will be bad news wherever he goes, guaranteed. As for Phily having a better hockey culture than Ottawa, this team gets roasted alive as many playoff rounds as Ottawa and the pressure is gonna be higher here to produce a winner than it has ever been for Emery in Ottawa.
I say he snaps in the 1st 2 months (pulls a Happy Gilmore, your gonna die clown) and starts beating on players on the opposing team, maybe even someone on his own team or coaching staff. I'm actually looking forward to it.
Wow...what a sour Sens fan, bet you miss him taking you guys to the finals eh? Love how he's better then any of the goalies the Sens have now. Also, I would have snapped too in Ottawa, look at what he did, the numbers he put up, and any chance Murray got, he would bring in another goalie and he never got the respect he deserved, you'll all be missing his 2.30 GAA and .920 S%....
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