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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
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 Posted - 06/16/2009 : 14:22:55
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| no offense beans or Rambo... It wasn't Emery that took Ottawa to the finals. As i remember Emery looked horrible in the playoffs... If Ottawa wasn't so much of a stacked team at that time Ottawa would have been in trouble... They have never really had a good goalie... When Dominic Hasek played for them he was at the end of his career and couldn't stop a beach ball to save his own life... When Emery and Gerber played for Ottawa Gerber was the better goalie and still is, Emery didn't even see the Playoffs that year... Emery may have playoff or ever Stanley Cup final experience but he can thank his teammates for that, because he sucked |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 17:10:35
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Hanley, there is a problem with your memory. Although I would agree that Emery was not the only reason they went to the finals last year, he was one of the reasons. He did his job very well in those playoffs, beating the likes of Pittsburgh, New Jersey, and Buffalo(President's Trophy winners)before running into Anaheim. They beat New Jersey and Buffalo on the road and Buffalo was the President's trophy team.
I guess Emery's .907 save percentage, 3 shutouts while facing more than 25 shots/game had no impact on the Sens making the finals. He played really bad, I have no idea why they didn't play their back up. Wait, I remember now! It's because their goalie was Martin Gerber. That phenom of a keeper that both coaching in Carolina and Ottawa didn't play all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals!
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 21:44:03
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I'd hate to say this but Ottawa probably would have won the cup that year if they had played Gerber instead of Emery... The only reason why Ottawa got so far was because of the team they had... Ottawa out shot and out played Anaheim.. It's easy to score on a goalie when he's down all the time, That's Emery's main problem, besides his mental problem...
In 2007-08 Gerber proved to be the better goalie hands down |
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Thrasher
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 06/16/2009 : 23:06:15
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Originally posted by hanley6
I'd hate to say this but Ottawa probably would have won the cup that year if they had played Gerber instead of Emery... The only reason why Ottawa got so far was because of the team they had... Ottawa out shot and out played Anaheim.. It's easy to score on a goalie when he's down all the time, That's Emery's main problem, besides his mental problem...
In 2007-08 Gerber proved to be the better goalie hands down
Hanley, most of this stuff maybe sounds good in your head, but before you put it on the internet think about it for a second. How in the world would you know that Gerber would have won them the cup? I think you should stop thinking about Emery's mental problem and start looking at someone in a mirror. Show me stats from 2007-08 that prove to me hands down that Gerber was a better goalie. Im not saying he wasn't, but if you are going to say it, back it up with evidence. Stats are far more telling of a goalies performance than a players performance for the most part.
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/17/2009 : 08:29:53
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I'm just saying, Emery led the league in GAA and S% in 06-07, and they still pushed for Gerber to be the #1 in Ottawa in 07-08. He had the right to be pissed at the situation. In comparison, thats like you getting married to a girl, but another guy doing her on the honeymoon...and you can quote that haha
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/18/2009 : 02:31:06
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Originally posted by Thrasher
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Originally posted by hanley6
I'd hate to say this but Ottawa probably would have won the cup that year if they had played Gerber instead of Emery... The only reason why Ottawa got so far was because of the team they had... Ottawa out shot and out played Anaheim.. It's easy to score on a goalie when he's down all the time, That's Emery's main problem, besides his mental problem...
In 2007-08 Gerber proved to be the better goalie hands down
Hanley, most of this stuff maybe sounds good in your head, but before you put it on the internet think about it for a second. How in the world would you know that Gerber would have won them the cup? I think you should stop thinking about Emery's mental problem and start looking at someone in a mirror. Show me stats from 2007-08 that prove to me hands down that Gerber was a better goalie. Im not saying he wasn't, but if you are going to say it, back it up with evidence. Stats are far more telling of a goalies performance than a players performance for the most part.
I Promise I didn't give her the STD, I'm not a sharing person.
no problem. In 2007 Emery's stats, 31 games, 12 wins, 13 losses, 4 overtime losses, 88 goals against, 800 shots against, .890 save %, 3.13 Goals Against Average, 1689 Minutes played..
Gerber's stats, 57 games, 30 wins, 18 losses, 4 overtime losses, 2 Shutouts, 145 goals against, 1619 shots against, .910 save %, 2.72 goals against average 3197 Minutes played....
Gerber also has a more successful overall NHL Stats record with .910 save % and 2.65 goals against average |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 06/19/2009 : 19:31:10
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Hanley, you get less credability when you don't show the entire story. Why not show both sides and let people decide on their own??? If you want to prove something, you have to show both sides of the arguement or you look like you are trying to manipulate the stas.
Sure, Gerber had a better season in 2007/08. What about 2006/07??
Gerber played in 29 games, was 15-9-3(.517 win %) with a 2.78 GAA and .906 save %
Emery played in 58 games, was 33-16-3(.569 win %) with a 2.47 GAA and .918 save %
What about the playoffs???
Gerber has played in 12 games and is 1-5 (That's right, he didn't get a decision in 1/2 of his playoff games because he got pulled) with a 3.50 GAA and an .890 save %.
Emery has played in 30 playoff games, is 18-12 (not pulled once) with a 2.46 GAA and a .904 save percentage
And Gerber's NHL superior 2.65 GAA and .910 save percentage is only .12 GAA and .003 save percent better than Emery.
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/20/2009 : 23:39:43
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Originally posted by Beans15
Hanley, you get less credability when you don't show the entire story. Why not show both sides and let people decide on their own??? If you want to prove something, you have to show both sides of the arguement or you look like you are trying to manipulate the stas.
Sure, Gerber had a better season in 2007/08. What about 2006/07??
Gerber played in 29 games, was 15-9-3(.517 win %) with a 2.78 GAA and .906 save %
Emery played in 58 games, was 33-16-3(.569 win %) with a 2.47 GAA and .918 save %
What about the playoffs???
Gerber has played in 12 games and is 1-5 (That's right, he didn't get a decision in 1/2 of his playoff games because he got pulled) with a 3.50 GAA and an .890 save %.
Emery has played in 30 playoff games, is 18-12 (not pulled once) with a 2.46 GAA and a .904 save percentage
And Gerber's NHL superior 2.65 GAA and .910 save percentage is only .12 GAA and .003 save percent better than Emery.
wait and see.... Gerbers career goals against average will stay below 2.90 and save % will stay around .910...
Emery on the other hand I can see him above 3 goals a game and around .886 save % by the end of his career.... Just a feeling |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 06/21/2009 : 04:14:07
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Originally posted by hanley6
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Originally posted by Beans15
Hanley, you get less credability when you don't show the entire story. Why not show both sides and let people decide on their own??? If you want to prove something, you have to show both sides of the arguement or you look like you are trying to manipulate the stas.
Sure, Gerber had a better season in 2007/08. What about 2006/07??
Gerber played in 29 games, was 15-9-3(.517 win %) with a 2.78 GAA and .906 save %
Emery played in 58 games, was 33-16-3(.569 win %) with a 2.47 GAA and .918 save %
What about the playoffs???
Gerber has played in 12 games and is 1-5 (That's right, he didn't get a decision in 1/2 of his playoff games because he got pulled) with a 3.50 GAA and an .890 save %.
Emery has played in 30 playoff games, is 18-12 (not pulled once) with a 2.46 GAA and a .904 save percentage
And Gerber's NHL superior 2.65 GAA and .910 save percentage is only .12 GAA and .003 save percent better than Emery.
wait and see.... Gerbers career goals against average will stay below 2.90 and save % will stay around .910...
Emery on the other hand I can see him above 3 goals a game and around .886 save % by the end of his career.... Just a feeling
his numbers wll stay around there forsure Gerbers numbers will probably stay right about there you know why he's a free agent,,,, ooops... maybe he doesn;t even play this year,,, or he plays twenty games a year as a back up,,,, hanely if you really think emery didn;t play well during the playoffs for ottwa when they made their cup run you're nuts and current events prove emery wasn;t the only thing wrong with that locker room,, wake up and be objective,,, pretty sure philly's gm isn't going to lose his job to you any time soon,,, and on a side note the story is on tsn it was a couple weeks ago i'll try and find a link..... The flyers are looking at Robert Esch to comeback aswell! btw i will find it somewhere they were talking about emery as a conn smyth candidate the year ottawa made the run
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/22/2009 : 14:00:26
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Originally posted by Pasty7
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Originally posted by hanley6
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Originally posted by Beans15
Hanley, you get less credability when you don't show the entire story. Why not show both sides and let people decide on their own??? If you want to prove something, you have to show both sides of the arguement or you look like you are trying to manipulate the stas.
Sure, Gerber had a better season in 2007/08. What about 2006/07??
Gerber played in 29 games, was 15-9-3(.517 win %) with a 2.78 GAA and .906 save %
Emery played in 58 games, was 33-16-3(.569 win %) with a 2.47 GAA and .918 save %
What about the playoffs???
Gerber has played in 12 games and is 1-5 (That's right, he didn't get a decision in 1/2 of his playoff games because he got pulled) with a 3.50 GAA and an .890 save %.
Emery has played in 30 playoff games, is 18-12 (not pulled once) with a 2.46 GAA and a .904 save percentage
And Gerber's NHL superior 2.65 GAA and .910 save percentage is only .12 GAA and .003 save percent better than Emery.
wait and see.... Gerbers career goals against average will stay below 2.90 and save % will stay around .910...
Emery on the other hand I can see him above 3 goals a game and around .886 save % by the end of his career.... Just a feeling
his numbers wll stay around there forsure Gerbers numbers will probably stay right about there you know why he's a free agent,,,, ooops... maybe he doesn;t even play this year,,, or he plays twenty games a year as a back up,,,, hanely if you really think emery didn;t play well during the playoffs for ottwa when they made their cup run you're nuts and current events prove emery wasn;t the only thing wrong with that locker room,, wake up and be objective,,, pretty sure philly's gm isn't going to lose his job to you any time soon,,, and on a side note the story is on tsn it was a couple weeks ago i'll try and find a link..... The flyers are looking at Robert Esch to comeback aswell! btw i will find it somewhere they were talking about emery as a conn smyth candidate the year ottawa made the run
Pasty
I'm hoping for the best for the Leafs that they sign Gerber and buy off the remainder of Toskala's contract... Than Toronto can have a decent season and maybe make the Playoffs... And whatever fool signs Toskala can deal with his problems...
That's just me though... I'm sure there are a lot of Leafs fans that want Toskala gone as well, in fact I know there is.
Maybe Philly could sign him and they can have 2 backup goalies fighting for number 1.... That's a toss up which one sucks more Emery or Toskala, that's a tough one, I wouldn't want either of them |
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Emery signs with the Flyers 
