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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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 Posted - 02/11/2011 : 15:12:11
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Originally posted by nuxfan
hey - are you telling me that Toews is not a legitimate choice over the last 6 seasons?
Just teasin'.... 
Now where's Doublechamp??? I'm ready to pick! |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 15:29:13
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This forum will be solely for commenting, the other one will be for drafting.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 16:01:41
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I think we should have stuck to daily visitors! DC hasn't been heard from since page 1 of this thread which is two days ago?
Beans, sorry you missed, hope Vegas was fun (and profitable). Where'd you stay? |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 16:41:59
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Originally posted by Alex116
I think we should have stuck to daily visitors! DC hasn't been heard from since page 1 of this thread which is two days ago?
Beans, sorry you missed, hope Vegas was fun (and profitable). Where'd you stay?
True, that's why I hesitated to put him in....
Anyone want in?
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Posted - 02/11/2011 : 18:24:40
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Originally posted by nuxfan
hey - are you telling me that Toews is not a legitimate choice over the last 6 seasons?
Toews over some of the other choices you had to choose from. I won't mention any as to give away the future picks. There were some greats that played at least one game after the lockout that is very close Lemieux. If you think Toews is in that category then you are seriously in trouble.
Remember Mario in his prime was god like. The others I'm thinking of would be demi gods then. Toews would seem human beside these guys based on Toews play to date. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 18:56:21
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I think Toews has done more over the last 6 years than Lemieux has done over the last 6 years.
AO - perhaps I'm not clear on the objective of this draft? I was not part of the GOAT draft... I'm assuming that I'm putting together the best team that I can, from players that have played over the last 6 years, measured as to what they've done over the last 6 years. If I thought I was putting together a group of HOF players that might have played a period of hockey since the lockout, then I might have chosen differently... |
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doublechamp7
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/11/2011 : 19:21:17
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IM HERE. I was waiting for my pick, and that pick is:
JOE THORNTON!
consistency for the win
Bring back the Jets! |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 20:27:50
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Originally posted by nuxfan
I think Toews has done more over the last 6 years than Lemieux has done over the last 6 years.
AO - perhaps I'm not clear on the objective of this draft? I was not part of the GOAT draft... I'm assuming that I'm putting together the best team that I can, from players that have played over the last 6 years, measured as to what they've done over the last 6 years. If I thought I was putting together a group of HOF players that might have played a period of hockey since the lockout, then I might have chosen differently...
The objective is that once we are done picking, we have a series of head-to-head tournament polls to decide a winner.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 02/11/2011 : 20:54:25
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Originally posted by nuxfan
I think Toews has done more over the last 6 years than Lemieux has done over the last 6 years.
AO - perhaps I'm not clear on the objective of this draft? I was not part of the GOAT draft... I'm assuming that I'm putting together the best team that I can, from players that have played over the last 6 years, measured as to what they've done over the last 6 years. If I thought I was putting together a group of HOF players that might have played a period of hockey since the lockout, then I might have chosen differently...
Nuxfan, i don't think you got the answer you were looking for. Unless i'm wrong, my understanding is you pick the best team from NHL players who played post lockout, but you assume you get them at the peak of their career(s). For a guy like Crosby, you get what he is today, same for OV, etc, but for a guy like Lemieux, you get him in his prime!
ETA.....i don't mind if you wanna reselect a player instead of Toews? |
Edited by - Alex116 on 02/11/2011 20:55:11 |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:10:03
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| ahhhh... I see. OK, if thats the case, then I definitely want a redo, I have another player in mind that no one has taken yet. AO, is that OK? |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:16:29
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| I only figured that out after AO picked Lemieux, nuxfan, so if I asked for a redo, I might change my player to someone else too, but Ovie isn't a shabby pick, so I won't complain. I don't mind if nuxfan gets a redo. |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:16:45
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Originally posted by nuxfan
ahhhh... I see. OK, if thats the case, then I definitely want a redo, I have another player in mind that no one has taken yet. AO, is that OK?
I say go for it, even though it's likely to be the guy i'm about to pick! I'll wait, there's a ton of talent out there still! I can't see anyone complaining as you're ending up with a late pick and it's obvious you misunderstood (not slighting Toews at all, just a bit early for him really).
You're up, i'll wait for you before my next one... |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:22:41
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alright - I'm dropping unpicking Toews, and my first pick is now Sakic. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:23:20
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it didn't even click that Lemieux was taken first...I saw Sid and Ovie go next...
truthfully Polish, I would have taken Ovie with your pick as well, and stuck with him - he's definitely not shabby. |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:26:17
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Dang it, nuxfan! I was hoping he'd still be there!!!
Oh well! Serves me right for picking Ovechkin!
Double dang it! Alex took forsberg!
Should I go and pick both sedins out of spite? |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:28:50
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Not a chance PE, i was actually thinking of trying to get Sakic / Forsberg with the 7th and 10th pick but couldn't pass up Jagr! No way was Burnaby Joe getting past me twice!
BTW, it's gonna be interesting to see how the Sedin's go. If you don't have back to back picks, you may not get'em both, however, does the guy taking the second one really want him on his own? Kinda set up for either of the two at the ends of the "snake" to take them? That's the only guarantee you get both!
Anyway, it's on to DC's pick now.... |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
525 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2011 : 21:34:45
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| Well, I do have a 15th and 18th picks, so it is possible for me, but I'm gearing in a different direction. |
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
996 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 05:28:22
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| why am i just opening this thread now!! lol Count me in next time :) |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 06:53:59
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No Nuxfan, I would have allowed a redo for you, but Doublechamp and Alex have already picked, I'm confident you'll get who you want with the next pick and there's also someone in the same league who's still available.
Sorry for the inconvenience!
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 07:02:26
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On second thought, I will allow Nuxfan (this is the only time) to switch for Sakic as long as he picks Toews with his next one because you already claimed him.
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
525 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 08:31:17
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FYI: I'll be busy today until about 2:30est, 12:30pst, so if my pick rolls around before then, I have guys in mind, just give me a chance to get until that time. Thanks!
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 09:33:40
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| A1....i don't see why Nuxfan should have to pick Toews at all. He clearly didn't understand the concept and in the end, ended up picking his first guy (Sakic), 10th overall. That means he's getting 9th pick and then 13th. I think that's punishment enough. Not saying Toews isn't worthy of a second rounder, but i don't see why he'd be forced to take him? |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 09:35:22
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Originally posted by Alex116
A1....i don't see why Nuxfan should have to pick Toews at all. He clearly didn't understand the concept and in the end, ended up picking his first guy (Sakic), 10th overall. That means he's getting 9th pick and then 13th. I think that's punishment enough. Not saying Toews isn't worthy of a second rounder, but i don't see why he'd be forced to take him?
Okay then, Nux, you can pick whoever you want, I didn't really want to do redos because I thought that if you got one, everyone would want one.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 10:32:12
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| thanks AO - I think I was the only one that didn't understand the concept, I don't think others will want a redo - everyone else made good choices. And when I did my redo, I made sure it was someone that no one else had taken yet... |
Edited by - nuxfan on 02/12/2011 10:32:40 |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 10:35:03
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Originally posted by nuxfan
thanks AO - I think I was the only one that didn't understand the concept, I don't think others will want a redo - everyone else made good choices. And when I did my redo, I made sure it was someone that no one else had taken yet...
No problem Nux!
P.S. I recall making (a fairly stupid) bet about the Canucks making the playoffs and I've pretty much lost already, so I will be changing my picture for 1 week.
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/12/2011 : 15:32:15
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So what happens when the draft is done? Debate/vote thread?
I'm hoping we don't use the built in polls on this forum, because they are easily rigged. If you clear cookies, you can vote multiple times.
Is it going to be head to head, or one giant free-for-all? |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 17:58:50
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Originally posted by polishexpress
So what happens when the draft is done? Debate/vote thread?
I'm hoping we don't use the built in polls on this forum, because they are easily rigged. If you clear cookies, you can vote multiple times.
Is it going to be head to head, or one giant free-for-all?
Head-to-head voting tournament in polls exclusive to members.
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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
451 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 20:06:19
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Did i miss something about gretzky and orr being banned from this draft?
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2011 : 20:10:25
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Originally posted by Utemin
Did i miss something about gretzky and orr being banned from this draft?
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful
You missed everything, this is post-lockout players only.
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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 14:06:59
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I read that but then I got confused when Lemiux and Leech were picked. My bad didn't relize they played one year in
Don't hate me because i'm Beautiful |
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 14:53:42
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| Who is picking next? We've slowed up in the drafting thread, haven't we? |
Edited by - polishexpress on 02/13/2011 20:13:23 |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
3670 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2011 : 15:37:03
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| Toxxik is up next....awaiting a pick! |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 22:11:56
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I just want to throw a little something out there as it might seriously impact the voting outcome. Is the plan to create the best team of players that have played since the lock out or a team of the best players since the lock out?
For example, since the lockout, Steve Yzerman played 61 games after the lock out for a grand total of 14 goals and 31 points and he was drafted very high. Mario Lemiuex playedin 26 games since the lock out. Comparatively speaking, Dany Heatley and Ilya Kovalchuk have more goals since the lock out than any player other than Ovechkin and niether have been drafted yet.
Alex Mogilny played 34 NHL games and 19 AHL games since the lock out. Why was he picked and Marian Hossa, a player who has been to the Cup final 3 times with 3 different teams winning once not been picked. Where is Datsuyk, easily the best 2 way player in the NHL since the lock out.
What are you guys picking???? Is it the best team since the lock out or simply players that have played since the lock out?? I think that half of the people are picking their team one way and the other half are picking the other. Although I am on the sidelines, picking a player that played in like 20 games since the lockout but taking their talents in their prime is not cool. Might as well have another GOAT draft.
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2011 : 22:21:37
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Beans, as i understand it, it's more of a team of best players, meaning that when picking a guy like Mogilny, you assume you're getting him in his "prime" years.
As far as picking a "team", as it gets down to it, i don't think you're gonna see guys picking 4th line grinders to fulfill a role. Teams will likely look more like Team Canada 2010 is my guess.
The suggestion to do another "GOAT" draft was there but it was agreed that it's too hard for people to pick guys they likely never saw play and compare them to todays players. Sure, taking Lemieux now and getting him in his prime may seem a little cheap but by keeping it to post lock out players, it allows everyone to be able to judge the teams because everyone will likely have seen all the players play at some point!
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 02/13/2011 : 23:02:32
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Originally posted by Alex116
Beans, as i understand it, it's more of a team of best players, meaning that when picking a guy like Mogilny, you assume you're getting him in his "prime" years.
As far as picking a "team", as it gets down to it, i don't think you're gonna see guys picking 4th line grinders to fulfill a role. Teams will likely look more like Team Canada 2010 is my guess.
The suggestion to do another "GOAT" draft was there but it was agreed that it's too hard for people to pick guys they likely never saw play and compare them to todays players. Sure, taking Lemieux now and getting him in his prime may seem a little cheap but by keeping it to post lock out players, it allows everyone to be able to judge the teams because everyone will likely have seen all the players play at some point!
Yes and No. With all due respect to everyone on this site, someone under the age of around 28 has absolutely zero clue about Lemieux in his 'prime'. Even in that regard, some who is 28 was around 4 yrs old with Lemieux started playing and 10-15 yrs old when Lemieux was actually in his prime.
How much hockey do you remember when you were 10? I know I don't recall much.
Going with the best players since the lock out levels the playing field and will give even younger folks a reasonable and fair vote. |
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2011 : 14:20:41
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Originally posted by Beans15
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Originally posted by Alex116
Beans, as i understand it, it's more of a team of best players, meaning that when picking a guy like Mogilny, you assume you're getting him in his "prime" years.
As far as picking a "team", as it gets down to it, i don't think you're gonna see guys picking 4th line grinders to fulfill a role. Teams will likely look more like Team Canada 2010 is my guess.
The suggestion to do another "GOAT" draft was there but it was agreed that it's too hard for people to pick guys they likely never saw play and compare them to todays players. Sure, taking Lemieux now and getting him in his prime may seem a little cheap but by keeping it to post lock out players, it allows everyone to be able to judge the teams because everyone will likely have seen all the players play at some point!
Yes and No. With all due respect to everyone on this site, someone under the age of around 28 has absolutely zero clue about Lemieux in his 'prime'. Even in that regard, some who is 28 was around 4 yrs old with Lemieux started playing and 10-15 yrs old when Lemieux was actually in his prime.
How much hockey do you remember when you were 10? I know I don't recall much.
Going with the best players since the lock out levels the playing field and will give even younger folks a reasonable and fair vote.
It's kind of late now...
but, most of the retired "legends" are gone now
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Sundance School Pool
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 02/14/2011 : 15:43:09
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if there are any more spots count me in suckka!
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/14/2011 : 17:05:52
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| Alex, I think you're up! Then semin with 2 in a row, then alex again. (if I'm right!) |
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 02/15/2011 : 03:29:19
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is it my pick?
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Awesome One
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
505 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 06:20:36
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Originally posted by Sundance School Pool
if there are any more spots count me in suckka!
UserShawMeadows
Craaaaaaaap, you're never on!!!!!
Listen, we can do one at school or something.
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