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Sensfan101
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 Posted - 04/28/2011 : 04:13:03
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Poll Question:
Who do you think will win?
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semin-rules
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 06:07:38
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This is going to be such a good series, best one I feel this round.
I think Boston has something to
prove to them. So I Boston in 6 mayyyybe 7 |
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Guest2747
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 06:14:13
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| No Carter, no Gagne this year and somehow even worse goaltending than last year. I think Boston wins big and wins quick this year. Boston in 5 |
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 06:50:45
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Sensfan - I just corrected your misspelling of Philadelphia, no worries.
Interesting commets on this great feeling for Boston . . . and I couldn't disagree more with the prediction. I think Philly will actually roll over a very lame looking second round opponent . . . in my mind, of all the second round teams, Boston was playing the worst by far. Thomas has not impressed me whatsoever, their power play is a total joke, and their defence looks confused and slow at times - and that was against Montreal, which can't be considered an offensive powerhouse.
Unfortunately for Boston, Philly IS an offensive powerhouse, and all lines are rolling. Yes, their defence was suspect at times against Buffalo, but I thought the Sabres were playing really well, frankly. Boucher played as good as Thomas, in my opinion - you can throw out the regular season stats, because I won't even look at them.
Philly does take periods/games off though, so it won't be quick. Philly in 6 is my call.
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Mario 66
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 07:22:30
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Philly rolls in this series. If anything the injury to Carter, simply allows Van Riemsyduk to play more hardly an issue if you ask me.
The only edge Boston may hold in this series is goaltending & with the Flyers ability to score goals & Boston's ineffiency on the PP this series may hold some long nights for the Bruins. They beat the habs as they where able to work them off the puck, philly is going to work the bruins D like Pronger is going to work his elbows in this series 
Philly in 6 just so Lucic can get me some points in my pool 
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nuxfan
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 08:40:10
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the PP will be key, BOS has to find theirs, because PHI has a pretty potent one.
I heard on HNIC last night, BOS is the first team to win a 7-game series without scoring a single PP goal? Or second or third... That is pretty unbelievable these days, when special teams mean so much. |
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Oilearl
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 09:36:37
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I took Boston at the start and really they have to be able to play better than the first round. Like the Canucks kinda removed a monkey off their backs winning game 7. Philly is a great team even with the injuries but I think their goaltending will be exposed.
Boston in 6
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Alex116
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 11:10:33
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I've got a hunch that the PP goals that were missing in round 1 will appear. There's no way they can keep going 0fer on the PP! I mean, at some point they will have to have one bounce in off someone's butt or something?
I'm still not sold on the shaky goaltending in Philly and i'm going with Boston in a hard fought 7 gamer. |
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ryan93
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 11:27:12
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Philly in either 5 or 6, probably the latter. I just think the Flyers forwards will be too much for the Bruins to handle.
As for Carter, is he out for certain in game 1? Last i heard the Flyers were optimistic he would play in round 2, but never really gave details as to when. |
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Open_Ice
Rookie
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 11:45:30
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I think this may be the only series to end early in the second round. Boston needs to find a powerplay or they have no chance against Philly's offense which appeared to score at will whenever they needed a goal in the first round.
On the other hand, if Philly's goaltending holds up this series could be done in 5. |
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Mario 66
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 12:26:30
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Ryan, I've heard he's likely done for the playoffs (sprained MCL), but this guy did recover from a broken foot last yr..
In youth we learn; in age we understand |
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ryan93
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 02:01:13
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I to am not sold on Philly's goaltending saga that has dragged on for decades. Boston has shooken the cobwebs on their game 7 woes and have not forgotten last year. The PP will come back in this series, HAS to.
Boston in 6 or 7. |
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 04:49:32
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Originally posted by Alex116
I've got a hunch that the PP goals that were missing in round 1 will appear. There's no way they can keep going 0fer on the PP! I mean, at some point they will have to have one bounce in off someone's butt or something?
I'm still not sold on the shaky goaltending in Philly and i'm going with Boston in a hard fought 7 gamer.
So Alex, let me ask you something,
This hunch that you have - did it tell you why, exactly, Boston's power play would suddenly come to life against one of the league's top penalty killing teams? Just curious. I mean, I know Philly's pk unit didn't excel against Buffalo, but they did have a pretty good pp - unlike Boston, which during the regular season had a power play worse than Edmonton and Ottawa. You can't make this stuff up!
On the other hand, Philly's pk unit is always dangerous, and was one of the top teams for shorthanded goals. Yes, the probable absence of Carter (at least at the beginning of this series) will hurt them, but . . . c'mon.
What made you think Boston will get better, against a better overall and more talented pk unit? Was it all those weak shots from the point on the power play they generated in the last game or two?
So, let's give it more perspective: is Philly like Montreal in any way in terms of being a team that can get pushed around physically?
I honestly can't muster up any kind of scenario for Boston winning this series, short of a three goalie meltdown for Philly - and as we have seen, even this didn't prevent them from winning eventually against a Buffalo team that was playing very very well.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 05:13:55
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Slozo,
What's with all the Boston hate lately? Lose a mortgage payment on the series vs Montreal?
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Guest2712
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 08:03:15
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rooting for the B's only because i've got 4 of them in my pool. but i've got a sinking feeling that Philly's going to take it. just seeing the way Boston played in the 1st round, and seeing Thomas and his "fish out of water" method of goaltending, it doesn't look good.
BUT if the PP can kick into gear then it should result in a complete turn around. otherwise the B's are dead. |
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Mario 66
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 08:09:41
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Here's the difference in this series. The Flyers best players are playing the way they should where as the bruins best players (minus Beregeron) where atrocious against a smaller undermaned habs team. Ya, boston may not forget last yrs serie's, but philly also hasn't forgot losing the cup last yr. Flyers are simply to big, to fast, to skilled for the bruins to beat not to mention their D Men are far superior to the habs.
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Alex116
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 09:28:55
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Originally posted by slozo
So Alex, let me ask you something,
This hunch that you have - did it tell you why, exactly, Boston's power play would suddenly come to life against one of the league's top penalty killing teams?
Philly, 2010/11 pk% was 82.8%, good for 15th in a 30 team league. You call that "one of the league's top pk teams??? 
Here's the thing though. All i was trying to get at is that if Boston gets any sort of production from their pp last series, it's prob over in 5 games! They could have gone just 10% and closed out that series earlier than game 7. It's not often that a team wins a series with 0 pp goals so just imagine if they'd scored 3 or 4 pp goals? They lost 2-0, 3-1 and 2-1. You think that maybe a pp goal could have changed one or two of those games??? Maybe?
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Originally posted by slozo
Just curious. I mean, I know Philly's pk unit didn't excel against Buffalo, but they did have a pretty good pp - unlike Boston, which during the regular season had a power play worse than Edmonton and Ottawa. You can't make this stuff up!
YOU, seem to be making this stuff up actually!
Boston PP regular season was 16.2% (20th in league)
Worse than Ottawa's 17.5% (15th in league) but not worse than Edmonton's 14.5% (27th in league).
And I'M the one "making stuff up"???
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On the other hand, Philly's pk unit is always dangerous, and was one of the top teams for shorthanded goals. Yes, the probable absence of Carter (at least at the beginning of this series) will hurt them, but . . . c'mon.
Yes, you are correct, Philly PK is usually among the top teams for shorties and this year was no exception with an impressive 13 on the season, tied for 2nd best with Pitts, trailing only, surprisingly, NYI. Not sure if Carter's absence will hurt them all that much as he's not one of their main PKers, having avg'd only 0:39/game on the kill.
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Originally posted by slozo
What made you think Boston will get better, against a better overall and more talented pk unit? Was it all those weak shots from the point on the power play they generated in the last game or two?
Here we go again.....
Philly PK% during regular season = 82.8% (15th in NHL)
Mont PK% during regular season = 84.4% (7th in NHL)
You have a strange way of judging a team's PK by the looks of things. I know a lot of people claim "stats don't tell the whole story" but in this case, what is it you're judging PK's by???
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Originally posted by slozo
So, let's give it more perspective: is Philly like Montreal in any way in terms of being a team that can get pushed around physically?
Not in the least!!! However, does Boston have a better chance to skate with and keep up with Philly? How about physically? Does Boston not matchup better vs Philly? I'd say yes, although this may be one instance where i don't have stats to back my opinion up. I'm not saying Philly is slow, but the B's match up better against them speed and strength wise than they did to Montreal.
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Originally posted by slozo
I honestly can't muster up any kind of scenario for Boston winning this series, short of a three goalie meltdown for Philly - and as we have seen, even this didn't prevent them from winning eventually against a Buffalo team that was playing very very well.
Maybe a "3 goalie meltdown" is all that it'll take. Lemme ask you this. Have either / both these teams changed THAT MUCH since last year? Did you watch their series last year? Need i remind you just how close Boston was to winning last year? Personally i can't muster up any kind of scenario for Boston to be counted out in this series, but that's just me.
I agree overall Philly is a better team. I love their D, especially if Pronger can get fully healthy. I just simply don't like their goaltending situation and at this time of year, that's a big thing. I picked Boston in 7, which is a crapshoot, but i'll take the better goalie and run with it. I don't expect the Boston PP to start looking like the Gretzky led Oilers PP of the 80's, i just think they'll find a way to get a crucial PP goal here and there. Lord knows, they can't go 0fer forever! 
This could turn out to be a sweep of Boston for all i know and surely you'll try to rub that in my face, but at least i can say you were completely off in your reasoning as almost everything you just threw at me was basically wrong. Yet i'm the one making stuff up? I'm still lost at that......
Source: http://www.nhl.com/index.html
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Posted - 04/29/2011 : 11:22:55
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Goodness Alex,
Someone went out and did their research! Heck, this morning I just did a quick look on yahoo sports after checking my email and looked up those pp and pk stats, so . . . ok. I obviously looked at things too quickly and did a poor job of reading the stats lines, my bad.
When I say a team is a top penalty killing team, I look at the whole picture, though. Not just the pk%, but adding in the shorthanded goals as well. And adding in how they are playing now . . . but geez, I must have looked at the stats wrong, or looked at the wrong team somehow, because clearly Boston's power play was better than Edmonton's, this is true.
Of that, they should be proud. And, they were just behind Philly's own pp during the regular season, fair enough.
Ok, ok, I get your logic. I get it that you think Boston will magically pull out of their funk and score at least a few power play goals. But how many will be scored against them - while on the pp? Against another team with quick forwards, this time guys that can all score . . .
Anyways - I am not going to change my mind on it, really. Yeah, I also find it likely that Boston gets a pp goal or two as opposed to 0.
But I wouldn't bet on it. 
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The Duke
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Posted - 04/30/2011 : 14:03:53
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So some of you guys really think that the Flyers have enough goal - tending to beat Tim Thomas ??
Which goalie may i ask will out do Tim Thomas ??
Boston in 6. |
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ryan93
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Posted - 04/30/2011 : 14:44:23
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| I don't think any of the Flyers goaltenders are capable of playing at Tim Thomas' level, but i still think they have a very good chance of winning the series. Last series, none of Bobrovsky, Boucher or Leighton were able to play at Ryan Miller's level, but they still found a way to win. It's definitely a concern though, and it has to wear on the Flyers players after a while. |
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Guest3690
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Posted - 04/30/2011 : 20:14:36
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| Apparently boyz it doesn't stop Boston from winning even though they can't score on the PP. 8 Games and counting!! If Philly doesn't get any decent goaltending and Defence then this one is over real quick. Lest we forget that Boston has a huge chip on their shoulders because of last year's series and they aren't going to let up on Philly this time. It will be tougher from this point on BUT Boston was a higher seed than Buffalo for a reason this year and Philly was fortunate to come back and win that series so I can't see Philly win no matter how much depth they have in the forward position. Goaltending rules and Philly just sucks in that department. |
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Guest2769
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Posted - 04/30/2011 : 20:24:49
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| Would love to see Seguin get a game or two, but why mess up a good thing. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 05/01/2011 : 21:02:03
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Originally posted by Guest2769
Would love to see Seguin get a game or two, but why mess up a good thing.
I was a little surprised he didn't play vs the Habs at all. Thought when they struggled, they'd get him in but now playing a physical team like Philly prob isn't the greatest spot for him? |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 02:21:53
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| Apparently with Philly's goaltending woes, we don't need to score on the PP........7? really? Who expected that? |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 09:39:44
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| no kidding - talk about thrusting PHI's goaltending issue right into the limelight... Should be a very interesting game 2 tonight, if there is another blowout like that PHI should be worried. |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 09:41:17
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| BTW - I would love to know what the record for PP futility is in the playoffs. BOS is now the only team to have won a 7 game series without scoring a PP goal... but what is the record for playoff depth without one in terms of rounds/wins? |
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Guest2779
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 18:26:29
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| The more I watch Kaberle the more I wish the would sit him and put in Kampfer. The power play has gone from fair to absolute ZERO. And the give aways, What is wrong with him. |
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ryan93
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 19:41:24
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| I'm watching the election coverage, but just checked the boxscore for the game & see where Sergei Bobrovsky came into the game 3 minutes into OT...what happened to Boucher?? |
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nuxfan
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 19:57:11
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| perhaps the hand injury to Boucher was too much in the end, I was surprised to see him start the 3rd. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 21:56:59
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Hey Slozo.....DIDN'T I TELL YA? The Bruins PP is carrying them unlike in the first round! 2-0 and both on the road!!!
Oh wait, they're still 0'fer.....
Not really sure how they're doing it aside from Thomas being a big factor! |
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 03:25:39
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In every playoff run, your goalie has to be able to steal a game or 2 and TT delivered last night. Boucher hurt his hand on a slapshot from Seidenberg in the 2nd and went off but did return to start the 3rd. Everyone knew the Flyers weren't going to take game 1 lying down and ultimately got robbed in this one. Wicked shot from Krejci for the winner, needed video to prove it, in and out.
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 05:18:56
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Awesome game to watch - could have easily been 6-5 score, both goalies (and Bobrovsky for a short stint) played great.
This is a big hit for my hockey pools though, and frankly has taken me by surprise that Philly could lose both at home to start this series. Let's cue up the comeback.
Proooooooongeeeeeeerrrrr!
You there?
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Pasty7
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 07:22:56
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Probably the best night in forever,, Great hockey game,, my Bruins win (lol) Harper has a majority government and the Bloc didn't have enough votes to remain and official party !! happy days my firends happy days!!
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 08:01:36
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| I knew we'd turn you Pasty !! |
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Pasty7
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 10:19:19
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Originally posted by ToXXiK1
I knew we'd turn you Pasty !!
to be honest i would prefer the Bruins to win this series,,, and the way the Bruins are playing now just goes to show you the habs are a much better team than many thought... Look Ryder has always been one of my favorite players i really like Mcquaid ,, Tim Thomas is amazing, if it weren't for Chara and Lucic i could actually like this team
"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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ToXXiK1
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 10:30:41
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Speaking of McQuaid, anyone here on his injury??
Can't find squat. |
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 11:31:29
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Originally posted by ToXXiK1
Speaking of McQuaid, anyone here on his injury??
Can't find squat.
I heard he gave himself a 5 game suspension for boarding and a head shot. The league was gonna let it go because he's a first time offender.
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Alex116
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 12:24:42
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Originally posted by fat_elvis_rocked
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Originally posted by ToXXiK1
Speaking of McQuaid, anyone here on his injury??
Can't find squat.
I heard he gave himself a 5 game suspension for boarding and a head shot. The league was gonna let it go because he's a first time offender.
Not sure what's funnier FER? Your words above, or the actual self inflicted headshot by McQuaid!!! |
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 15:02:05
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McQuaid has a sprained neck and is listed as day to day
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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ryan93
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Posted - 05/04/2011 : 17:40:02
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| Yet another goaltending change tonight for Philly. This has been going on for way too long, they HAVE find a way to address their goaltending situation this summer. |
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